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  1. #3851
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    Quote Originally Posted by WX View Post
    My my there are a lot of lurkers out there...view count has jumped over 640 times.
    Sorry it's not more interesting.
    Guilty. But I will steal ideas as well!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Quest View Post
    Guilty. But I will steal ideas as well!


    Mal
    I have no problem with that....keep in mind that over the years I have indulged in a few very unworkable ideas.
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    I'm surprised you used 2 pack paint over water based primer.
    I wouldn't expect that to last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacko View Post
    I'm surprised you used 2 pack paint over water based primer.
    I wouldn't expect that to last.
    It seems to work. As I said, beware my ideas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WX View Post
    My my there are a lot of lurkers out there...view count has jumped over 640 times.
    Sorry it's not more interesting.

    Guilty also Gary, I always enjoy dropping by quickly to check out what you’re doing but don’t really have much of any value to contribute
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larks View Post
    Guilty also Gary, I always enjoy dropping by quickly to check out what you’re doing but don’t really have much of any value to contribute
    I went back over the last 4 pages or so yesterday just to see what I have achieved. Also to see how long it's been since my last sail, which incidentally was just over a year ago.
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  7. #3857
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    Checked on Redwing today and while taking a couple of photos I noticed something. Zoom in on the transom just above the name...see that big of orange? Yep, it's fungus...seems I didn't quite cut back far enough in 2017.
    20201101_155556.jpg

    I should have ground the paint back further. Luckily I'm planning a haul out in a few weeks.
    This is how it looked on 2017.
    20170708_065040.jpg
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    Looks like Redwing has done her last bar crossing. I hauled her out last Monday for antifoul, outboard impeller replacement and a small rot repair job on the transom. All that got done but I found some quite extensive rot in sections of topside that seemed okay in 2017. I've decided I'm shovelling water on this one so we'll get in some river sailing till sometime after July and the then bring her home, for a new life as a guest cabin of sorts. I'm going to find a suitable fibreglass derigged hull 24-26 ft LOA and put my rig on it. Chris who runs the Tweed heads slip is keeping his eyes open for me and reckons I should be able to get something for free. Though I imagine a near total internal refit will be needed.
    I'm hoping to find something with either shoal draft or long keel.
    Anyway that's the state of play here regarding boats.
    She does look good...from a distance.
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    Replacing the impeller was dead easy...right up until I needed reverse to get off the slip.
    I must have moved the gear shaft at some stage because reverse became neutral and neutral became forward. I'm surprised we actually got it to start. Anyway we had the wind to blow us off and once off I didn't need reverse. So if you ever replace an impeller check your gear settings afterwards.
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    usually the f-n-r problem is from the connection for the shifting rod that needed to be disassembled to take the lower unit off. The lower unit needs to be in the same position as the upper shifting lever when they are put back together. N-N etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by gray duck View Post
    usually the f-n-r problem is from the connection for the shifting rod that needed to be disassembled to take the lower unit off. The lower unit needs to be in the same position as the upper shifting lever when they are put back together. N-N etc
    Totally agree..
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    Tough call regarding the rot, and Redwing's future as not-a-boat. I know you've put a huge amount of time and energy into trying to keep her usable, but FWIW, I think you are doing the right thing - the patchwork planking and creeping rot can't be doing good things for structural integrity. Looking forward to the next project, when you find a suitable donor boat

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    What do you think the cause of your rot problems are?
    I know there was a long hiatus in construction. Did the weather get in then?
    Or is it the quality of the ply you used originally?
    Sorry if you've talked about this in the past, but I can't remember.

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    Sorry to hear about your problems Gary, must be a real struggle knowing when to cut your losses seeing as you’ve put so much love into that boat.

    I hope you find a suitable replacement soon.

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    That’s a tragedy Gary, I’m really sorry to read this mate after all the work that you’ve put into her. I trust she’s given you enough pleasure on water to cover your labours and I like your idea of recycling both the hull and the equipment into a cabin onto another hull.

    You realise though that we’ll all now be trying to find the best hull for you don’t you.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacko View Post
    What do you think the cause of your rot problems are?
    I know there was a long hiatus in construction. Did the weather get in then?
    Or is it the quality of the ply you used originally?
    Sorry if you've talked about this in the past, but I can't remember.
    Moisture into the end grain of the ply and the long spell under the tarp i reckon. Maybe if I had glassed the hull it might have been different. Who knows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larks View Post
    That’s a tragedy Gary, I’m really sorry to read this mate after all the work that you’ve put into her. I trust she’s given you enough pleasure on water to cover your labours and I like your idea of recycling both the hull and the equipment into a cabin onto another hull.

    You realise though that we’ll all now be trying to find the best hull for you don’t you.....
    Thanks Greg I'm looking at something like a Tophat 25. At present I plan to get in as much river sailing as I can. The final haulout will be around August but that will be determined by the topside planking rot. There are a couple of soft patches that could give out before then.still early days in the planning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Donald View Post
    Sorry to hear about your problems Gary, must be a real struggle knowing when to cut your losses seeing as you’ve put so much love into that boat.

    I hope you find a suitable replacement soon.
    There is something called egonomics that has been in play here. But finding the topside rot and realising it was at a size that was beyond time and finances to deal with while on the slip made me realise I just couldn't do it any more.
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    This is a Tophat 25. My apologies for it not being timber.
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    My plans are now to downsize to a trailer sailer around 16ft to 18ft.
    This is a short clip of the last decent sail on Redwing.
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    Sorry to hear of Redwing's demise. Glad to hear that she'll still be around!

    Thanks for the video as well, very nice.
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    Planning on getting in some more river sailing before her final haulout.
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    Sadly the extra sailing just wasn't to be, the rot along the chine is just too soft. So today the sail was raised for the last time to dry it out. Rain water tends to collect in the folds of the panels. Then it was time to derig and bring the sail bundle home.
    Sail up 1.jpg

    Loaded 1.jpg
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    The good news is the the outboard started without having to clean the carby.
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    Shame you didn’t manage the last sail I feel for you Gary.

    Here is to some good memories.

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    Plenty of photos and lots of video to look back on. The wharf has waived my berth fee, hopefully I won't be there much longer.
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    Yesterday I went up to the boat and unbolted the mast, and as luck would have it I met an acquaintance who has a small crane on his truck. The mast is out and laying down.
    Mast out.jpg
    On the way home I picked up some 8" x 2", 2 @ 3m and 2@ 2.4m for the cradle. The 3m lengths are treated and the whole lot only cost $118. The local sawmill charges about $17 a metre for 8x2.
    Cradle 1.jpg
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    Nice video of her sailing.
    That rig really is spectacular. Or is dramatic a better word. Looks great either way, how sad its got to be put away - hopefully for only a small while.
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    Keel chainsawed off and rigging stripped off the mast.
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