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    be modest, and be proud of it.

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    When Your Pants Begin to Go

    Henry Lawson, 1892

      • When you wear a cloudy collar and a shirt that isn't white,
        And you cannot sleep for thinking how you'll reach to-morrow night,
        You may be a man of sorrows, and on speaking terms with Care,
        And as yet be unacquainted with the Demon of Despair;
        For I rather think that nothing heaps the trouble on your mind
        Like the knowledge that your trousers badly need a patch behind.

        I have noticed when misfortune strikes the hero of the play,
        That his clothes are worn and tattered in a most unlikely way;
        And the gods applaud and cheer him while he whines and loafs around,
        And they never seem to notice that his pants are mostly sound;
        But, of course, he cannot help it, for our mirth would mock his care,
        If the ceiling of his trousers showed the patches of repair.

        You are none the less a hero if you elevate your chin
        When you feel the pavement wearing through the leather, sock, and skin;
        You are rather more heroic than are ordinary folk
        If you scorn to fish for pity under cover of a joke;
        You will face the doubtful glances of the people that you know;
        But — of course, you're bound to face them when your pants begin to go.

        If, when flush, you took your pleasures — failed to make a god of Pelf,
        Some will say that for your troubles you can only thank yourself —
        Some will swear you'll die a beggar, but you only laugh at that,
        While your garments hand together and you wear a decent hat;
        You may laugh at their predictions while your soles are wearing low,
        But — a man's an awful coward when his pants begin to go.

        Though the present and the future may be anything but bright,
        It is best to tell the fellows that you're getting on all right,
        And a man prefers to say it — 'Tis a manly lie to tell,
        For the folks may be persuaded that you're doing very well;
        But it's hard to be a hero, and it's hard to wear a grin,
        When your most important garment is in places very thin.

        Get some sympathy and comfort from the chum who knows you best,
        That your sorrows won't run over in the presence of the rest;
        There's a chum that you can go to when you feel inclined to whine,
        He'll declare your coat is tidy, and he'll say: 'Just look at mine!'
        Though you may be patched all over he will say it doesn't show,
        And he'll swear it can't be noticed when your pants begin to go.

        Brother mine, and of misfortune! times are hard, but do not fret,
        Keep your courage up and struggle, and we'll laugh at these things yet,
        Though there is no corn in Egypt, surely Africa has some —
        Keep your smile in working order for the better days to come!
        We shall often laugh together at the hard times that we know,
        And get measured by the tailor when our pants begin to go.

        Now the lady of refinement, in the lap of comfort rocked,
        Chancing on these rugged verses, will pretend that she is shocked.
        Leave her to her smelling-bottle; 'tis the wealthy who decide
        That the world should hide its patches 'neath the cruel look of pride;
        And I think there's something noble, and I swear there's nothing low,
        In the pride of Human Nature when its pants begin to go.

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    BTW Gary, a great video documentary.

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    Long but very interesting.
    be modest, and be proud of it.

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    When was the last time you referred to pants as “trousers”?
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    Trousered/slang:/ˈtraʊ.zɚ/ to get a large amount of money, especially in an unfair or illegal way.

    Sound like anyone you know of?

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    That was really good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Bow View Post
    When was the last time you referred to pants as “trousers”?
    A few minutes ago.
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    "George Washington as a boy
    was ignorant of the commonest
    accomplishments of youth.
    He could not even lie."

    -- Mark Twain

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    Thanks for posting that, it was interesting.
    I stopped work and watched the entire thing
    It was great that the Dr. of dendrochronology knew how to spin the raw wool in the old style. Watching him spin that wool into yarn was an introduction to "muscle memory", and very skilled hands. Like he had been doing it forever, "Dirty side out"... where and when did he learn that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Bow View Post
    When was the last time you referred to pants as “trousers”?

    Comes from the Scots Gaelic word Triubhas (pronounced "trews").
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Bow View Post
    When was the last time you referred to pants as “trousers”?
    The older people around here still call them trousers- me included most of the time. A valiant last stand by a small number resisting the pressure to become another American suburb. JayInOz

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    "Khaki is a color, chinos are a style." - Jamie, Mad About You.
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    I can spin wool straight from the fleece, I cannot remember exactly when I learnt but I have built several wheels and was a mamber of there Hand Spinners and Weavers Guild at one stage. I haven't spun for some years but I have no doubt that I could with an hour's pratice again.
    It's a great way to keep warm on a cold night, keeps your blood flowing, and the lanolin is good for your hands. Some fibres are difficult, like Samoyed fur, you spin it onto a thin linen (flax) thread.

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    My wife recently sold one of her wheels- it was ancient- and her big loom. She used to spin a lot and made some lovely stuff- most of it too warm for here. But it's an awful lot of work to make things from your own wool. The shearing- my bit- is the quickest part. Then comes the washing, carding, dyeing, fixing, spinning- and then you still have to make something from it It's still less work than making brain tanned hide- something I'd do a lot more of if I had the time- and more deer hides. JayInOz

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    If you pick your fleece and work with it's natural stucture you can spin direct easily with practice. Skirtings and ram fleeces excluded. Ancient sheep had a far more 'hair like' fleece with guard hairs but the under fleece was much softer and easier to work with. America is home to a couple of 'hair sheep' varieties I think. Many older breeds did not need shearing, the wool sloughes off naturally or can be just pulled off with your hands, Dorper sheep for instance.

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