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    Default Building Heidi | Documenting & Questions

    Firstly, THANK YOU to all who share their tips and experience on this forum. I have lurked for a while and benefited, since this is my first build.

    I have decided to post because I have encountered questions I cannot find answers to. I will add photos of progress made so far, and then continue to update.

    The project is Heidi, a 12 foot skiff that many of you have built, by Richard Kolin.




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    Setting up outside since I do not have adequate indoor space.


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    Stem from white oak.


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    Getting jig setup. Temporary stem seen leaning on tree.


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    From bow. Set up complete.


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    View of transom. Also white oak.


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    Using vertical grain DF from Oregon for planking.


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    Chines attached to stem. First time using polysulfide so please pardon the mess!


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    Chine at transom. I tried to get the tightest fit, but was not thrilled with the gap. Learned a lot.


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    First planks on. This was very exciting.


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    Side view.


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    Started installing the bottom planks. Also VG DF. Bent a few nails over early on, unfortunately, but then got more consistent.


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    Restoring my first plane. Lots of new things I did not know I would have to learn, but it has been a joy.


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    Trimmed up the cross planking and installed second pair of planks. Copper rivets being used.


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    Side view, again.


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    And from straight on.


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    Default Building Heidi | Documenting & Questions

    All caught up on progress, and confronted with two questions:

    1) Should I nail the most-aft bottom plank to the transom?

    I installed it and bed it with polysulfide. I nailed it to the chines first and the fit between the bottom plank and the one forward of it was snug. But, when I put 5 nails spaced across the aft edge of the bottom plank into the transom, I believe it pulled the plank aft because the nails were pointing aft at ~45 degrees to compensate for the angle of the transom. This created and uncomfortably large gap (~ 1/8 inch) between the aft-most bottom plank and the bottom plank forward of it. I think it will be too large to swell shut.

    2) Is exterior house paint suitable for the bottom and sides of this boat? Will it allow enough water to penetrate and swell the planks?

    Mr. Kolin suggests that durable exterior house paint will work for the Heidi, and I am attracted to this method because it seems cheaper, and I will leave the boat in freshwater near Erie, PA, for the season so the conditions seem right. But, something I cannot find in reviews for marine paint/house paint is whether or not it will allow water to penetrate and swell the bottom cross planks. Any advice from someone with more experience would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.


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    Thanks for the pictures, I enjoyed them.
    I built a cross planked boat a long time ago, I don't remember if I nailed the last plank to the transom, but I guess I would have. I only oiled the boat at first, the new owner painted it later, after swelling in the lake. That last seam did leak, maybe because I gapped it like the others, but it only had pressure on one edge. The owner caulked it and it stayed tight. So you can swell the bottom before painting if you like, and if the seam leaks, caulk it.
    Nice boat, congratulations, good luck with her.

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    FINE PRESENTATION

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    Default Re: Building Heidi | Documenting & Questions

    Looks like you are doing a fine job.
    For the little difference in cost on a small boat I would go for marine paint.
    Kirby's is a good one.

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    Hi John, thank you for replying. I particularly appreciate what you said about caulking, which I had not thought of as potential fix. I will surely keep this in mind.

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    Thank you, SW. More to come (hopefully soon).

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    Quote Originally Posted by timo4352 View Post
    Looks like you are doing a fine job.
    For the little difference in cost on a small boat I would go for marine paint.
    Kirby's is a good one.
    Thank you for this advice. I just took a quick look and was impressed by the price, and even more so by the variety of colors they offer.

    I just subscribed to your Ninigret thread. A great looking boat and impressive craftsmanship.
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    Good weather, today. I was able to shape and install the keel and skeg.


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    I made a rookie mistake and misjudged how close I could get to the front edge of the skeg with a screw, and split the oak a bit. Luckily there is another screw a few inches back.

    I also misjudged how big of a pilot hole I needed for a large screw on the aft side of the skeg. Luckily it is solidly attached the to keel and the plans call for more screws once the boat is flipped over. I just hope this does not cause any trouble later on.

    I filled each split with wood glue and backed the screw out a smidge so they closed up. I will keep an eye on them.


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    I think it will not be a problem.

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    Always impressed by folks who can build outside. Good job!
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    Great looking boat! I am impressed with your set up and your selection of wood and grain orientation. I am just starting my first build and your documentation is providing a lot of inspiration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johngsandusky View Post
    I think it will not be a problem.
    I was hoping someone would say that. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michigangeorge View Post
    Always impressed by folks who can build outside. Good job!
    Thank you!

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