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    Default Re: Snow and ice collapsed my bow shed with fantail launch inside

    Interesting to see the module of failure. Did the knee wall give way first leading to the frames breaking or did the frames break and blow out the wall?

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    Default Re: Snow and ice collapsed my bow shed with fantail launch inside

    Disregard.
    I see you addressed that in post # 10.

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    Default Re: Snow and ice collapsed my bow shed with fantail launch inside

    Add my voice to the potential volunteers.
    re the pole shed, not 20x30, but 24x32. Even multiples of 4' and 8', less waste.

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    Default Re: Snow and ice collapsed my bow shed with fantail launch inside

    Those two photos of the collapsed shed made my head hurt. So sorry. The rest of the thread is so interesting because I'm just about to build a shed to store a new power cat. My problem is the possibility of falling trees and a very delicate boat. Been thinking of a bow-shed style building with a big old (dead) aluminum mast as a ridge pole. The mast could have legs at both ends. Any thoughts?
    My property taxes have almost doubled in 15 years, so not wanting to add to my property value.

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    Default Re: Snow and ice collapsed my bow shed with fantail launch inside

    Quote Originally Posted by Russell Brown View Post
    Those two photos of the collapsed shed made my head hurt. So sorry. The rest of the thread is so interesting because I'm just about to build a shed to store a new power cat. My problem is the possibility of falling trees and a very delicate boat. Been thinking of a bow-shed style building with a big old (dead) aluminum mast as a ridge pole. The mast could have legs at both ends. Any thoughts?
    My property taxes have almost doubled in 15 years, so not wanting to add to my property value.
    Going by my recent experience, I won't offer any advice...
    Perhaps start a thread about it, you'll get all sorts of responses.
    I was born on a wooden boat that I built myself.

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    Default Re: Snow and ice collapsed my bow shed with fantail launch inside

    I quite like the steel Quonset hut style buildings and they are surprisingly cheap for what they are. https://agribilt.com
    The company I linked to had a cancelled order for a 25 x 36 with vertical side walls that they offered to me for around $8000 with free shipping. It's too big for me but the system and technology seems good.

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    Default Re: Snow and ice collapsed my bow shed with fantail launch inside

    Would a temporary shed affect your property value? Mine hasn’t.

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    Default Re: Snow and ice collapsed my bow shed with fantail launch inside

    I don't think it would, but I built a tiny deck on my house and it bumped up my assessed value, so I'm sure if I put up a serious shed like a steel quonset hut it would affect my property taxes. They now base the assessed values on what you may get for your property if you sell it and this is now a trendy place to move to if you have tons of dough, so values have skyrocketed. Everyone is paying roughly double what taxes were 15 or 20 years ago, even people who don't have money.
    I like the Stimson style bow sheds and have always wanted to build one. The natural light factor is appealing.

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    Default Re: Snow and ice collapsed my bow shed with fantail launch inside

    I built a small shed (6' x 8') a few years ago & the lister from the town stopped by & said "New shed! I'll have to add that to the property value" I said "No, it's not permanent" & pointed to the skids under it. She said "Nice try Garret." I said "Give me 5 minutes to hook up my trailer" and did so, backed up to it, got out a come-along & started pulling it on. "OK, OK - I get it - not permanent" & my taxes didn't change.
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    Default Re: Snow and ice collapsed my bow shed with fantail launch inside

    I still like the idea of putting my wife's car out in the snow next winter and storing the boat in her half of the garage....
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    & who is going to explain to her why this is a good idea?

    We have a guest room if you need it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Jones View Post
    I still like the idea of putting my wife's car out in the snow next winter and storing the boat in her half of the garage....

    A buddy of mine has a classic Pontiac convertible. He installed a car lift in his garage for it. They park the everyday sedan under the elevated classic. Maybe if your ceiling is high enough.....

    Jeff

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    Default Re: Snow and ice collapsed my bow shed with fantail launch inside

    Now that the glaciers have receded, you can see what I've got here.
    The thing is resting easy on the boat, not too much weight and the plastic is still intact so is keeping the rain off the boat. The boat is also covered by a good quality Sunbrella-like boat cover.
    I'm jammed up with other stuff for the next couple of weeks.
    Will clear the wreakage after that.
    I'm still not sure what to replace it with. Now I'm leery that anything other then a massive pole barn won't be safe enough in Vermont winters. Clearing weak temporary structures is really tough. I've got to wear snowshoes to do it on one side. I'd like to have something that does not require clearing the roof of snow.
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    Stimson shed with shrink-wrap. A friend in Maine has had one up as a car "garage" for 8+ years now. Snow & ice slide right off & no issues as long as it's securely fastened to the ground (screw-in anchors).
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    Default Re: Snow and ice collapsed my bow shed with fantail launch inside

    Stimson boat shed. A2A has mentioned once or twice that their new shop roof is performing much better than the old A-frame roof.

    Otherwise, a steep shed roof on top of some big posts is your answer.

    Edit to Add: maybe a classic A-Frame shed is the answer. Just big enough for the boat to fit into.
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    Default Re: Snow and ice collapsed my bow shed with fantail launch inside

    There is still a little bit of snow on the ground?

    Move South!!!!!
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    Default Re: Snow and ice collapsed my bow shed with fantail launch inside

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Jones View Post
    Now that the glaciers have receded, you can see what I've got here.
    The thing is resting easy on the boat, not too much weight and the plastic is still intact so is keeping the rain off the boat. The boat is also covered by a good quality Sunbrella-like boat cover.
    I'm jammed up with other stuff for the next couple of weeks.
    Will clear the wreakage after that.
    I'm still not sure what to replace it with. Now I'm leery that anything other then a massive pole barn won't be safe enough in Vermont winters. Clearing weak temporary structures is really tough. I've got to wear snowshoes to do it on one side. I'd like to have something that does not require clearing the roof of snow.
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    Was there a low 'knee wall' on the right side of the structure ?

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    Default Re: Snow and ice collapsed my bow shed with fantail launch inside

    ^ Yes, it was screwed to the 6x6 retaining wall.
    I was born on a wooden boat that I built myself.

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    Default Re: Snow and ice collapsed my bow shed with fantail launch inside

    Quote Originally Posted by SKIP KILPATRICK View Post
    There is still a little bit of snow on the ground?

    Move South!!!!!
    Supposed to get 3-5" here tomorrow. The Adirondacks will get 8-12"
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    Default Re: Snow and ice collapsed my bow shed with fantail launch inside

    3-5 feet seems extreme for April 1st even in Vermont

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    Default Re: Snow and ice collapsed my bow shed with fantail launch inside

    Extreme? Maybe, unheard of? No. I remember a storm around 4/25 10-15 years ago that dropped 40 inches. Note that I spelled the word out that time? Thx - I corrected my post.
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    Default Re: Snow and ice collapsed my bow shed with fantail launch inside

    I thought it might be an April fool (that would be me) thing
    (But whenI first typed that, it came out as Brrrmont.
    Shirley a Freudian slip, having spent my formative years in that climate
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