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    Default 15,000 answers from 11 countries in Europe

    Trump's presidency leaves a grave mark in Europe.

    A majority of Europeans believe America’s political system is broken, that China will be the world’s leading power within a decade, and that Joe Biden will be unable to halt his country’s decline on the world stage, according to a report.


    While many welcomed Biden’s victory in November’s US election, more Europeans than not feel that after four years of Donald Trump the US cannot be trusted, according to the study by the European Council on Foreign Relations.


    “Europeans like Biden, but they don’t think America will come back as a global leader,” said the thinktank’s director, Mark Leonard. “When George W Bush was president, they were divided about how America should use its power. With Biden entering the White House, they are divided about whether America has power at all.”

    The survey of 15,000 people in 11 European countries, conducted at the end of last year, found that the shift in European sentiment towards the US in the wake of the Trump presidency had led to a corresponding unwillingness to support Washington in potential international disputes.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/19/majority-of-europeans-say-china-will-overtake-broken-us-within-decade

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    Default Re: 15,000 answers from 11 countries in Europe

    maybe europe should step up to reign in china
    or should have stepped up already
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    Default Re: 15,000 answers from 11 countries in Europe

    Difficult, when it appears that 99% of the crud arriving in Europe comes from China.

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    Default Re: 15,000 answers from 11 countries in Europe

    China will trade it's way to the top, and their main aim is for the Yuan to replace the US$ as the reserve currency. Then they really will have won.

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    Default Re: 15,000 answers from 11 countries in Europe

    I think that summary is likely to be accurate. People like Biden and wish him well, but their confidence in the USA has been shaken.

    As a Brit, I could see that Obama was in the business of playing a weak hand well, and expertly managing the decline of US power.

    Then Trump crashed the automobile.
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    Default Re: 15,000 answers from 11 countries in Europe

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    maybe europe should step up to reign in china
    or should have stepped up already
    Oh come on, should the world have stepped up to reign in the US 70 yrs ago? Infinite growth,consumption and hegemonic military power isn’t sustainable.

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    Default Re: 15,000 answers from 11 countries in Europe

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    maybe europe should step up to reign in china
    or should have stepped up already
    This is a great example of the truth that Republicans have used so well. Yes, we should not carry the burden for all, but we do and that's not going to change.

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    Default Re: 15,000 answers from 11 countries in Europe

    Of course, some of Europe reigned in China a few years back...

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    Default Re: 15,000 answers from 11 countries in Europe

    It’s out in the open. The US isn’t to be trusted.

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    Default Re: 15,000 answers from 11 countries in Europe

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    maybe europe should step up to reign in china
    or should have stepped up already
    What, again?
    They've been there, done that.
    be modest, and be proud of it.

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    Default Re: 15,000 answers from 11 countries in Europe

    An article I read a few weeks ago stated that in 20 years the US would be third economically behind China and India.

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    Default Re: 15,000 answers from 11 countries in Europe

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Gray View Post
    An article I read a few weeks ago stated that in 20 years the US would be third economically behind China and India.
    So much for "white supremacy"

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    Default Re: 15,000 answers from 11 countries in Europe

    However I have been hearing about the US decline for 40 years, thereabouts.

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