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    Quote Originally Posted by Garret View Post
    Has anyone seen politics or religion above decks? That is not supposed to happen & I haven't seen it.

    So, if one doesn't want politics or religion, don't go in the bilge. That's not that hard is it?

    I'm having trouble understanding what the problem is
    I'll take a stab at answering that one - based upon being around here for over 20 years. And upon my observations of friends, relatives, and colleagues since I started life as an activist at age 16.

    There are reasons the Bilge is the most active and frequented area of the WBF.

    One is -- lively discussion and pungent personalities are always more interesting than some folks want to admit.

    Another reason is that the world, not just the U.S., is going thru a time that is notable for its tension, contention, and drama. It is world-views clashing. It is the future of the quaint notion that humans can govern themselves democratically (instead of ceding that job to some authoritarian figure) coming perilously close to failing - thru the efforts of the autocrats and oligarchs.

    Here's the problem. the attractions of the Bilge, though some may regard them as illicit or nasty, somehow keep distracting some folks from the preferred approach to life. And however ignorant any given person might be about the details of the abovementioned clash... all but the very dullest can feel the tension. So they don't want to look. And some don't. And some do. But they hate it. It's disturbing. And sometimes unpleasant. And sometimes contentious. So they want the temptation removed. And they want to go back to their efforts to enjoy the fruits of whatever life they've managed to build. And not think about the big issues. Or how failure to act now may well be sentencing their kids and grandkids to a world they can't imagine, or don't want to consider - a world ruled by the New Feudalism. They may make fun of the folks who say, 'it can't happen here'... but in their hearts they believe it --




    What a really want is another section devoted entirely to kitten & puppy fotos...
    Last edited by David G; 03-31-2021 at 05:00 PM.
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    It's not a big problem, but those topics and snippets still come up in "New Topics" whether you visit The Bilge or not. I was taken aback the first time I noticed it because, like I said, I have seen other groups deteriorate when politics came into the mix. I just don't see the need for such topics on a forum dedicated to wooden boats.

    Quote Originally Posted by Garret View Post
    I'm having trouble understanding what the problem is
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    Quote Originally Posted by cluttonfred View Post
    It's not a big problem, but those topics and snippets still come up in "New Topics" whether you visit The Bilge or not. I was taken aback the first time I noticed it because, like I said, I have seen other groups deteriorate when politics came into the mix. I just don't see the need for such topics on a forum dedicated to wooden boats.
    There is more to life than just boats (even, dare I say it, wooden boats) and this forum and it's members are richer for being able to share the non boat aspects of their lives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cluttonfred View Post
    It's not a big problem, but those topics and snippets still come up in "New Topics" whether you visit The Bilge or not. I was taken aback the first time I noticed it because, like I said, I have seen other groups deteriorate when politics came into the mix. I just don't see the need for such topics on a forum dedicated to wooden boats.
    Thing is, this place is more than just a forum about wood boats. Many folks here are friends in real life. For example, I have been to EBS's (Elbow Bending Symposiums) in at least 5 states (& multiples in some states) and have met dozens of WBF members. I've checked out boats, motorcycles & cars for folks, delivered boat parts from one forum member to another, chipped in on a wood-stacking party for another, etc.

    Maybe it'd help to think of the bilge as a virtual "Yak around the stove at the local store" kinda thing.

    Finally - it you click on "New Posts" - furthest left link near the top, it excludes the Bilge & just shows posts from abovedecks.
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    The Bilge serves a good social purpose and this forum has lasted perfectly well for as long as it is had it’s place on the forum, so I don’t think there’s any risk of it causing this particular forum to implode as others may have done.

    My only problem with it is, because I tend to prefer the sunlight and rarely venture down there, I tend to miss out on some real boat gems that get posted there because of the apparently higher viewership .....??

    It seems that many bilge dwellers never raise their heads to look above the cabin sole at anything else on the forum so a lot of posters will post good boat content stuff down there so that it gets the viewership and response.

    It’s kind of like someone stashing a really good bottle of booze down in the bilge on your boat and, although you are aware there’s something rattling around down there, you think it must be just an old oil bottle or something and you never realise that it’s really, really worth drinking ....meanwhile it just rolls around getting coated in bilge muck....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larks View Post
    The Bilge serves a good social purpose and this forum has lasted perfectly well for as long as it is had it’s place on the forum, so I don’t think there’s any risk of it causing this particular forum to implode as others may have done.

    My only problem with it is, because I tend to prefer the sunlight and rarely venture down there, I tend to miss out on some real boat gems that get posted there because of the apparently higher viewership .....??

    It seems that many bilge dwellers never raise their heads to look above the cabin sole at anything else on the forum so a lot of posters will post good boat content stuff down there so that it gets the viewership and response.

    It’s kind of like someone stashing a really good bottle of booze down in the bilge on your boat and, although you are aware there’s something rattling around down there, you think it must be just an old oil bottle or something and you never realise that it’s really, really worth drinking ....meanwhile it just rolls around getting coated in bilge muck....
    It is just this which inspires me to urge folks to post boat-related content abovedecks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David G View Post
    It is just this which inspires me to urge folks to post boat-related content abovedecks.
    I agree, but most folks who've tried that say they get far more views & interaction in the Bilge. Must be some people can handle it.
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    David G
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    Someone's feeling persecuted? I haven't seen that.
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    Nice, Upper left corner . clicking new posts doesn't show bilge posts. didn't know that . Thanks. All this smelly talk made me think of one of my favorite signs I want to put on a T-shirt. Uncle Billybilly.jpg

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    So I have been around here for awhile, stayed out of the Bilge for years. However last year things kinda changed!
    Started sitting around at work all day waiting for the phone to ring. NOT complaining I am employed! I really don't comment that much or add that much to the conversation so I want this to be known. Over the last year and a half the Bilge has been a real asset! (Period, drop the mike and all that stuff).

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