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I'm looking for bronze pintle and gudgeon sets. Don't really want to go with stainless, but don't want to sell a kidney either. Suggestions?
Ken
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How big?
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That's exciting that you're ready for pintles and gudgeons, Ken
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R&W Rope and Fisheries Supply and others carry Davey, the British chandler. Shipping one-off from Britain sometimes makes letting a US business deal with all that.
There's also the German company Toplicht.
Up to about 15 years ago we had a local foundry that let a friend make the patterns and do the surface finishing (what a pain!) after the mold was opened. This saved more than half the cost, which is at least half of why such local foundries as still exist are reluctant.
The other part of the reasons foundries avoid consumer finished jobs is the low quality of so much amateur work.
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How big? My rudder is 1 3/4" thick at the sternpost, I cold bent 3/16" x 2" flat bronze to capture pintles carved into the oak rudder stock.
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I guess I should add this to the discussion. I'm actually going to use a kick-up rudder, so that complicates (correct me if I'm wrong)the size of the pintles. They need to be wide enough to include the rudder cheeks, correct?When the desire to learn is greater than the desire to win, the journey becomes the prize. Comment
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The cheeks can go on after the pintlesComment
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Most of the bronze bits in a wooden boat are not visible.
And what is, doesn't stay bright very long!
I once surveyed a nice little sailboat that had galvanized steel fittings painted brown and they looked for all the world like bronze. Fooled me until I was up close and personal!Comment
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A 'knuckle joint' router bit might allow you to make a pattern for a local foundary? My eyes popped out when I saw this bit in the catalogue...
Bronze are spending though, no avoiding it really. But you might get lucky if you're prepared to do the drilling and finishing.Last edited by Edward Pearson; 05-22-2023, 06:59 AM.Comment
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For one-offs I'd just use wax for a pattern, of course after consultation with the foundry. Wood patterns are useful for multiples when doing investment casting in sand molds.
It was mentioned earlier that bronze can be cold-worked. Might not it be a practical approach to fabricate something using available bronze stock that then is silver soldered or brazed in assembly?
Other than for aesthetics is bronze suitable for salt water use because of its anti-corrosion property, perhaps compromised when other metals get added from using a solder or brazing alloy? For fresh water use this shouldn't be of concern.Comment
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One can make them of epoxy and fiberglass
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Patterns can also be 3D printed, which is neat because the slicing software can add the scale for the metal shrinking as it cools.
I did a masthead for the kid that way out of aluminum.
Ken, do you have an initial design to share as pictures?Comment
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