Renovating Folkboat, beginner needs advice

[joshs]

My mostly-open folkboat interior had been treated with cuprinol for many years by the PO. I'm concerned about painting or preserving the wood in some other way. I read an article about using linseed oil, pine tar and turpentine, for a preservative, and white lead on top. https://traditionalpainter.com/re-pa...34-wooden-boat

But, on the other hand, i was thinking of coasting off of the many years of cuprinol application and leaving it bare for a while longer. How sound of a plan is this? Will the white oak and mahogany hold up okay without any additional surfacing?

The bilge and interior are clean and dry. And the boat's been out of the water for two seasons, stored indoors.

[Peerie Maa]

Re: Painting Folkboat interior

Welcome to this forum.

I would not use boat soup, as the tar never really dries and will get sticky and mark anything that touches it when it gets warm. The tar may also bleed through any paint as creosote tends to do.

[skaraborgcraft]

Re: Painting Folkboat interior

I have painted over cuprinol treated surfaces with no problems. Cuprinol is "in" the wood, rather than a surface coating. If the boat is now nice and dry, just key the surface for primer and get to it. I would stay away from any lead based paint for internal work. My own folkboat is bright finished inside, i would not fancy preparing it for paint, or trying to get in all the little spaces under the ribs with a brush. You might consider a spray set up. Welcome to the forum.

[Canoeyawl]

Re: Painting Folkboat interior

This...
Is the best stuff for bright finished interiors

http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/product.do?part=11773&engine=adwords&keyword=product_ad&gclid=CJWF4PrjlcsCFYpffgodeGEFgA

[joshs]

Re: Painting Folkboat interior

I have painted over cuprinol treated surfaces with no problems. Cuprinol is "in" the wood, rather than a surface coating. If the boat is now nice and dry, just key the surface for primer and get to it. I would stay away from any lead based paint for internal work. My own folkboat is bright finished inside, i would not fancy preparing it for paint, or trying to get in all the little spaces under the ribs with a brush. You might consider a spray set up. Welcome to the forum.

Mine is mostly bright finished interior too, but the frames and planks/strakes (?) are not. How is the structural elements finished in your Folkboat?

[joshs]

Re: Painting Folkboat interior

The Deks Olje sounds awesome too. It's also recommended for exteriors.

I was going to use Cetol natural teak on mahogany coatings etc. it is highly recommended except by the finishing experts I've talked to, even the manufacturers rep said "don't." However it's widely praised. The truth us that I don't think I have the time or energy for varnish and I still want to see the wood. Cetol sounded like a good solution.

Deks Olje sounds like a better one.

What is the application temperature? I can apply Cetol in the 40s which is perfect for my barely heated winter storage site. What about Deks Olje?

Also, will it work for a spruce mast?

I'm sorry for all the noob questions, but I'm almost completely ignorant about any and all finishing. (So why the wooden boat, you ask?).

lolfolkboat.wordpress.com for some details.

[joshs]

Re: Painting Folkboat interior

Thank you all for welcoming me to this forum.

Actually, I need to ask a hundred beginner questions about this boat restore job. Should I just do it here or begin a new thread dedicated to the whole project?

[Peerie Maa]

Re: Painting Folkboat interior

Thank you all for welcoming me to this forum.

Actually, I need to ask a hundred beginner questions about this boat restore job. Should I just do it here or begin a new thread dedicated to the whole project?

You can change the name of this thread to something more relevant by using the "Administrative" menu on the bar on top of your first post. You move the thread to another page. The software will give you the option of renaming. Then you move it again back to here.

[Canoeyawl]

Re: Painting Folkboat interior

I have used DJ on the interior of many boats, some open and some enclosed. The open boats want a coating a couple of times a year. I wouldn't use it for a mast or other exterior bright work. It is an oil finish as compared to a "built-up" finish like varnish or paint. I use it on rubrails, handrails and other parts that require more frequent maintenance. One of the things that endear me to it is there is no prep work required. Just slap it on with a rag... It seems to dissolve into and bond with the previous coats.

[skaraborgcraft]

Re: Painting Folkboat interior

Mine is mostly bright finished interior too, but the frames and planks/strakes (?) are not. How is the structural elements finished in your Folkboat?

Except for the deck head and below the waterline...its varnish.




I absolutely agree if you want to keep a wood finish, then oil is a good way to go. D1 is an excellent product, though i mostly use tung oil.

[Canoeyawl]

Re: Painting Folkboat interior

DJ-1 on the hull, varnish on the deck beams, carlins and sole with Interlux Hatteras White on the
cabin sides and overhead. Without the paint it would be a cave for troglodytes...!

[David G]

Re: Painting Folkboat interior

Another option for a wipe-on/wipe-off clear finish: Daly's Seafin Teak Oil. Enough tung oil & solvents to make it easily workable. Enough resin content to build a bit. Perfect refresh product for mostly-sound varnish. http://www.fisheriessupply.com/dalys...eafin-teak-oil

[joshs]

Re: Painting Folkboat interior

Here is a link to my boat's interior. https://lolfolkboat.wordpress.com/20...26/good-stuff/ You can see the bilge and interior brightwork. I'm assuming I would have to sand the frames and bilge planks before oiling with DJ-1, or is that incorrect?

[skaraborgcraft]

Re: Painting Folkboat interior

Has she been built with nuts and bolts? The copper roves i can see all look to be nut shaped, but it could be my eyes.
It would be best to get off any remaining varnish before oiling, at least that you can get to.

[Canoeyawl]

Re: Painting Folkboat interior

You need to clean it, that's about it... It will penetrate and doesn't need a "tooth" like varnish"
I might go over it with a scotch brite pad and a shop vac.
(your boat looks great!)


edit; Noting skaraborgcraft's post I wouldn't use DJ over varnish, just bare wood. And it does look like nuts and bolts...