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    U.S. Intelligence Officials Say America is in Possession of Non-Human Craft & Bodies

    If you spend any time on social media — traditional media has been slower to pick up the story — you’ve probably seen the news: David Grusch, a decorated Air Force veteran who spent fourteen years in the U.S. intelligence apparatus, including time as the liaison between the National Reconnaissance Office and the Unidentified Anomalous Phenomenon (UAP) Task Force, has come forward this week with an absolute bombshell of a claim: the U.S. government has in its possession both crashed or abandoned craft created by non-human intelligence, as well as the bodies of some of the beings who piloted those craft.
    The news broke in a story on The Debrief, “a news site providing a public venue for credible reporting on science, tech, and defense news, with an eye for the cutting edge science and technology of tomorrow.” The story was written by Leslie Kean and Ralph Blumenthal, the investigative journalists who broke the UAP disclosure worm-can wide open in their 2017 New York Times piece, Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program, which revealed the Pentagon’s secret Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) and the man who ran it for years: Lue Elizondo........

    ...........Grusch’s disclosure:
    Grusch said the recoveries of partial fragments through and up to intact vehicles have been made for decades through the present day by the government, its allies, and defense contractors. Analysis has determined that the objects retrieved are “of exotic origin (non-human intelligence, whether extraterrestrial or unknown origin) based on the vehicle morphologies and material science testing and the possession of unique atomic arrangements and radiological signatures,” he said.

    In filing his complaint, Grusch is represented by a lawyer who served as the original Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG).
    “We are not talking about prosaic origins or identities,” Grusch said, referencing information he provided Congress and the current ICIG. “The material includes intact and partially intact vehicles.”
    In accordance with protocols, Grusch provided the Defense Office of Prepublication and Security Review at the Department of Defense with the information he intended to disclose to us. His on-the-record statements were all “cleared for open publication” on April 4 and 6, 2023, in documents provided to us.

    Grusch’s disclosures,and those of non-public witnesses, under new protective provisions of the latest defense appropriations bill, signal a growing determination by some in the government to unravel a colossal enigma with national security implications that has bedeviled the military and tantalized the public going back to World War II and beyond. For many decades, the Air Force carried out a disinformation campaign to discredit reported sightings of unexplained objects. Now, with two public hearings and many classified briefings under its belt, Congress is pressing for answers.


    Follow the above link to read on Macduff!
    Last edited by Hallam; 06-07-2023, 06:14 PM.
    Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. Leonardo da Vinci.

    If war is the answer........... it must be a profoundly stupid question.

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    sloppy aliens subcontracted construction of their interstellar time warp recreational vehicles to the Zorlons

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      they are probably looking for a suitable prison colony planet………...

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        It’s ET of the gaps. If you don’t understand something, it must be extra terrestrial. Similar to god of the gaps.

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          If this claim is truthful, why not let us see the evidence. Have it inspected by some technical experts. Make sure it was not created by Disney.

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            Originally posted by skuthorp
            they are probably looking for a suitable prison colony planet………...

            ..............consultancy positions for collaborators?
            Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. Leonardo da Vinci.

            If war is the answer........... it must be a profoundly stupid question.

            "Freighters on the nod on the surface of the bay, One of these days we're going to sail away"
            Bruce Cockburn

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              Originally posted by Fred Z
              it's how we got velcro.
              ........by studying how insects crawled up walls?
              Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. Leonardo da Vinci.

              If war is the answer........... it must be a profoundly stupid question.

              "Freighters on the nod on the surface of the bay, One of these days we're going to sail away"
              Bruce Cockburn

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                Ahh, I love the smell of mockery in the afternoon.

                Our government is slowly getting us used to the idea that aliens from another planet are here. Whether there are really aliens or not, all you funny guys are missing the appropriate question; why?
                In the US this perverted idea of “blood and soil” over “constitutional principles” is the most radical and anti-democratic and anti-Conservative idea I have heard in my lifetime.

                ~C. Ross

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                  Originally posted by McMike
                  Ahh, I love the smell of mockery in the afternoon.

                  Our government is slowly getting us used to the idea that aliens from another planet are here. Whether there are really aliens or not, all you funny guys are missing the appropriate question; why?

                  .....we just hadn't got there yet. Good question. Got any insights?

                  Paul G says he is from space. Maybe he can give us his perspective?
                  Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. Leonardo da Vinci.

                  If war is the answer........... it must be a profoundly stupid question.

                  "Freighters on the nod on the surface of the bay, One of these days we're going to sail away"
                  Bruce Cockburn

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                    Originally posted by Hallam
                    .....we just hadn't got there yet. Good question. Got any insights?

                    Paul G says he is from space. Maybe he can give us his perspective?
                    The obvious answer would be, because there are aliens. But The obvious answer is way more obvious, there was talk of advanced weaponry. Perhaps this is code for AI, maybe this is a message to our adversaries, we have harnessed the power of general artificial intelligence. Indeed, aliens.
                    In the US this perverted idea of “blood and soil” over “constitutional principles” is the most radical and anti-democratic and anti-Conservative idea I have heard in my lifetime.

                    ~C. Ross

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                      Yes, first question would be is the advanced tech possibly of human origin or is it evidence of non human origin. AI would be of human origin or better said, invention and development.

                      The article linked in quoting David Grush is clear in stating that the evidence and examples held of vehicles etc, indicates they are of non human origin. In saying that i agree that aspects of the info and the whole revelation may be deliberate disinformation, part truth and part smoke screen for a hidden agenda. Makes it complicated and necessitates that it be approached with caution and a mind open to non obvious dynamics.
                      It will be interesting to see where this goes over time. That much seems likely.

                      The other bit of news that can be tagged onto this is the recent announcement that 'authorities' are wanting the negative stigma removed from reporting of unexplained phenomena so those who observe any such thing are more likely to report it. I'm thinking there is probably a link to these two announcements.

                      Possibly there will be testing of new advanced tech and citizen science will help with aspects of the testing but won't really know as they will now be thinking they are on UFO watch? How is that for a theory? Give me a score between 1 and 10
                      Last edited by Hallam; 06-07-2023, 08:02 PM.
                      Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. Leonardo da Vinci.

                      If war is the answer........... it must be a profoundly stupid question.

                      "Freighters on the nod on the surface of the bay, One of these days we're going to sail away"
                      Bruce Cockburn

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                        Once again, the mainstream media missed the news.
                        “Come, come, my conservative friend, wipe the dew off your spectacles and see the world is moving" - Elizabeth Cady Stanton

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                          Originally posted by McMike
                          Ahh, I love the smell of mockery in the afternoon.

                          Our government is slowly getting us used to the idea that aliens from another planet are here. Whether there are really aliens or not, all you funny guys are missing the appropriate question; why?
                          story telling is fun and profitable.

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                            Another consequence of this info coming to light that occurred to me and might not be immediately obvious is this:
                            ( i may be willingly exposing my ignorance here )

                            If congress is the decision making process along with presidential powers of decision making and they don't know about all of this then who's making the decisions? Who is really in power of the governing/decision process? ...........Or this aspect?

                            and also assuming the POTUS can't be trusted with this sort of info?
                            Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. Leonardo da Vinci.

                            If war is the answer........... it must be a profoundly stupid question.

                            "Freighters on the nod on the surface of the bay, One of these days we're going to sail away"
                            Bruce Cockburn

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                              Why is it that aliens can cross the light years between the stars, but can't escape our defensive technology?

                              Or after getting here, their systems fail and they crash?

                              Seems awfully unfortunate.
                              "Where you live in the world should not determine whether you live in the world." - Bono

                              "Live in such a way that you would not be ashamed to sell your parrot to the town gossip." - Will Rogers

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