UFO Info From a Credible Verifiable Source?

[ron ll]

Re: UFO Info From a Credible Verifiable Source?

Did I say it was aliens? Also, what gap? If we're to take these folks at their word, it's aliens. I mean, I know we can't take them at their word because they're military and intelligence, but the alternative to aliens is not nothing.

Agreed. My apologies for using the royal you.

[Hallam]

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I still have my skeptic hat on but am very interested. So far it’s all a promo for the full hour or so program edited from the 4 hours of interview. Lots of talk etc establishing credibility, and lots of teasers re supporting prior history of significant events, eg Italy 33 while referencing that the life forms may be biological AI and the travel related to inter dimensional rather than space travel as such to explain the deliberate evasiveness at giving direct answers initially. So far this smacks of very well orchestrated publicity. Why the lack of empirical input with peer review if there is a serious reach out for public education in these matters. This is where the scientific methodology should come into its own and be a very major factor to the discussion, does so without giving away any ‘trade secrets’ or advantage gained by the knowledge gained so far from the realities being suggested. That’s why for me the process and initial statements are important indicators, more so than information so far delivered which when it comes down to it means very little except to appeal to the confirmation bias of those very interested and engaged in the topic.
So keeping an open but skeptical mind as I await further developments.
That’s where I’m at with it all.

[George.]

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These conspiracy theories are so made-for-Americans. The aliens always want to speak to the President, and their ships always end up with the US military, or fighting against it.

This one requires you to believe that these craft are dropping everywhere, but they all end up in the hands of the government. People find meteorites and fossils all the time, but no one not in on the conspiracy ever found one of these alien craft.

Sure...

[Beowolf]

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[skuthorp]

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Hallam: "So far this smacks of very well orchestrated publicity."

I wonder how much they are charging for the ad breaks?

anyhow, aliens = god substitute.

[George Jung]

Re: UFO Info From a Credible Verifiable Source?

I still have my skeptic hat on but am very interested. So far it’s all a promo for the full hour or so program edited from the 4 hours of interview. Lots of talk etc establishing credibility, and lots of teasers re supporting prior history of significant events, eg Italy 33 while referencing that the life forms may be biological AI and the travel related to inter dimensional rather than space travel as such to explain the deliberate evasiveness at giving direct answers initially. So far this smacks of very well orchestrated publicity. Why the lack of empirical input with peer review if there is a serious reach out for public education in these matters. This is where the scientific methodology should come into its own and be a very major factor to the discussion, does so without giving away any ‘trade secrets’ or advantage gained by the knowledge gained so far from the realities being suggested. That’s why for me the process and initial statements are important indicators, more so than information so far delivered which when it comes down to it means very little except to appeal to the confirmation bias of those very interested and engaged in the topic.
So keeping an open but skeptical mind as I await further developments.
That’s where I’m at with it all.

Was It on ET?*

*Entertainment Tonight

[WX]

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This refers to the Roswell Incident. It's old news , there's books written about it. And of course numerous conspiracy theories involving Area 51.

[Gerarddm]

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This interpretation is just plain wrong. Ornithologists will spend months hiding in blinds with long lenses to study bird behavior. I think it's most likely that aliens would think that communication with us would be pointless but are curious enough to study us.

No. Ornithologists remain HIDDEN from their intended subjects. These so-called UFOs are anything but.

[ahp]

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I have known some professional astronomers and a good many armature astronomers. Occasionally I am even a back yard astronomer. I have never met any that has claimed to have seen a UFO. The armatures are the most likely source. They actually spend more time looking at the night sky. Professional astronomy is more a desk job.

[CK 17]

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So they have the intelligence to get here from there, and then crash? The remaining energy onboard required to get back home from here would leave a pretty noticeable hole in the ground. I’m gonna go out on a limb and suggest this never happened.

[Lugs]

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So they have the intelligence to get here from there, and then crash? The remaining energy onboard required to get back home from here would leave a pretty noticeable hole in the ground. I’m gonna go out on a limb and suggest this never happened.

And those who believe these things supposedly have the intelligence to vote and to serve on juries. Dog help us.

[AndyG]

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The Sagan standard is the adage that “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence”

And we have none. Not even a hint.

Andy

[skuthorp]

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Lugs: And those who believe these things supposedly have the intelligence to vote and to serve on juries. Dog help us.

Well, they probably believe there is a god too………………...

[Lugs]

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Lugs: And those who believe these things supposedly have the intelligence to vote and to serve on juries. Dog help us.

Well, they probably believe there is a god too………………...

indeed.... they need to fill gaps in their understanding with some imagined rubbish

[George.]

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There is most certainly a Dog. In fact, I am polytheistic when it comes to dogs. I myself have two in my lararium and appease them with offerings several times a day. In the mornings and afternoons we take them out on a solemn procession, and at night while we sleep they protect our home from evil spirits and other invasive species.