Political 'news' speak

[John Smith]

I define some words as follows:

Lying: is simply stating a fact that is not a fact.

Fraud: Lying for some form of personal gain, or harm to others.

Disinformation: Something you may believe to be true, but don't care if it is or not.

Misinformation: A milder form of misinformation

I have a problem with so many 'reporters' using euphemisms.

[horsepen]

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Those who don’t read the newspapers or watch TV news are uninformed. Those who do are misinformed.

[Keith Wilson]

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Lying: is simply stating a fact that is not a fact.

Probably should add 'knowingly', otherwise it's just an error.

[johnw]

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Disinformation comes from a source that is deliberately falsifying information. Misinformation is information injected into the conversation to shore up a point of view, without caring that the information is false, or bothering to find out if it's false.

[sandtown]

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I define some words as follows:

Disinformation: Something you may believe to be true, but don't care if it is or not.

Misinformation: A milder form of misinformation .

Well, you, like that Humpty dude, can define words any way you wish . . . but as the John pointed out above, your concept of Mis/Dis Info flies in the face of the King's Lingo . .

And furthermore . . . https://www.juancole.com/2022/08/pol...formation.html

[Nicholas Scheuer]

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You forgot to list "alternate facts".

[bluedog225]

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This is extremely dangerous to our democracy.

Journalism is dead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fHfgU8oMSo

[Wine47]

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" I'm just asking questions" Tucker and now Comer inserting outlandish claims that get recycled.

[John Smith]

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I'm bothered by the use of such terms; "Disinformation" and "misinformation", and "alternative facts" all seem, to me, overly and unnecessarily polite ways of saying 'lies'.

Somehow they sound more 'innocent', at least to me.

[johnw]

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I'm bothered by the use of such terms; "Disinformation" and "misinformation", and "alternative facts" all seem, to me, overly and unnecessarily polite ways of saying 'lies'.

Somehow they sound more 'innocent', at least to me.

I disagree. Lies may be white or unthinkably evil. They may be told to protect someone from uncomfortable knowledge or to lure one into a trap. I've even had people lie to me for no discernable reason.

Disinformation campaigns are usually political or military. Misinformation is harmful but not necessarily intentional.

[WszystekPoTrochu]

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I'm bothered by the use of such terms; "Disinformation" and "misinformation", and "alternative facts" all seem, to me, overly and unnecessarily polite ways of saying 'lies'.

Somehow they sound more 'innocent', at least to me.

Misinformation can be through lack of knowledge, disinformation not.

Newspeak is generally malicious disinformation. Political correctness is mild disinformation. Alternative facts are simply lies obscured by imaginative presentation.

[skuthorp]

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Never forget the private press is about making money and in many cases political influence to make more money. Their audience is the advertisers, not the the consumers. Truth and facts are a very poor 3rd or 4th, specially if they contradict the main priorities.

[John Smith]

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Never forget the private press is about making money and in many cases political influence to make more money. Their audience is the advertisers, not the the consumers. Truth and facts are a very poor 3rd or 4th, specially if they contradict the main priorities.

I understand that. It's what just cost FOX a lot of money.

Many of life's lines sometimes blur. I'm just a retired postal clerk, but it seems to me the line between true and false is not all that wide. We often talk about rights. I believe we have the right to honesty from "news" insofar as facts are concerned. They are entitled to their opinions, but those opinions ought to be based on actual facts. I believe the same goes for politicians.

I FIND IT FUNNY that so many who themselves lie often are upset with Santos. He's just taken lying to a whole knew level, but he's not the only member of congress who lies to us. I cannot help but think of "He who casts the first stone....."

Is he lying, giving disinformation or misinformation, or alternative facts?

[David W Pratt]

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Don't forget "some people say" where "some" is a number between 1 and 300,000,000.

[Keith Wilson]

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Don't forget "some people say" where "some" is a number between 1 and 300,000,000.

Wouldn't 'some' have to be more than one? A number between 2 and 1,000,000,000.