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    I had never considered that mail, emails, calls, etc. would have an effect on them. I direct my feedback to legislators and/or agencies. But maybe it's worth adding them to my 'gripe list'...

    Supreme Court Justices Don’t Like Being Criticized in Public, Which Is a Good Reason to Keep Doing It

    In an interview last month, Justice Samuel Alito complained about excessive criticism of the Supreme Court. To him, this criticism has not identified discrete problems to be solved but rather represent bad-faith efforts by critics to do nothing more than give the public a “reason to question our legitimacy.”

    The not-so-subtle implication of what has become a regular talking point for conservatives is that the court isn’t — and shouldn’t be — responsive to public criticism. And if that’s true, it must follow that public criticism doesn’t serve a legitimate purpose, especially if it is unlikely to spur meaningful reform from Congress.

    Yet this attempt to delegitimize public criticism fails at its inception. Even if reform from Congress is not imminent, we ought not drop the focus on another potential vehicle for reforms — the court itself.

    There are both historical and recent examples of how the court, in response to mounting public pressure and criticism, has changed its ways, examples that underscore the value and opportunities provided by continued public pushback today.

    David G
    Harbor Woodworks
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    "It was a Sunday morning and Goddard gave thanks that there were still places where one could worship in temples not made by human hands." -- L. F. Herreshoff (The Compleat Cruiser)

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    Originally posted by David G
    , Justice Samuel Alito complained about excessive criticism of the Supreme Court. . . . the public a “reason to question our legitimacy.”
    Do I question Alito's legitimacy ?? HELL YES !!!!

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      Thin skin for someone who is more concerned about his own opinion than that of the citizens or the Constitution.
      "Where you live in the world should not determine whether you live in the world." - Bono

      "Live in such a way that you would not be ashamed to sell your parrot to the town gossip." - Will Rogers

      "Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." - Groucho Marx

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        Originally posted by CWSmith
        Thin skin for someone who is more concerned about his own opinion than that of the citizens or the Constitution.
        Obviously they don't care. They base their decisions on whatever they wish to base them on. Usually money or religion, IMO.
        "Banning books in spite of the 1st amendment, but refusing to regulate guns in spite of "well regulated militia' being in the 2nd amendment makes no sense. Can't think of anyone ever shot by a book

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          Did SCOTUS just blow up the EPA ??

          Not quite, but they are chipping away at it/

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            The Scotus is a political tool. Ideally it wouldn't be, but the selection process guarantees it. Weighing in unsolicited into hot button political issues that throw those issues into free fall isn't helpful.

            That guy is naive. You'd hope members of scotus would be smarter than that.
            It's all fun and games until Darth Vader comes.

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              Roberts is a corporate tool.

              During the Irish struggle against English oppression, IRA prisoners would frequently refuse to recognize the authority of the court (special tribunals of British officers) and stand mute.

              Seems like we might be approaching that point with the present bunch.

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                Alito is not naive gypsie, he knows exactly what he was put on the court to do, and being judicial has nothing to do with it.

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                • #9
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                  TFU
                  Rick

                  Lean and nosey like a ferret

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                  • #10
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                    Originally posted by sandtown
                    Do I question Alito's legitimacy ?? HELL YES !!!!
                    Yes. And Thomas... and Kavenaugh... and, and, and...
                    David G
                    Harbor Woodworks
                    https://www.facebook.com/HarborWoodworks/

                    "It was a Sunday morning and Goddard gave thanks that there were still places where one could worship in temples not made by human hands." -- L. F. Herreshoff (The Compleat Cruiser)

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                      Originally posted by John Smith
                      Obviously they don't care. They base their decisions on whatever they wish to base them on. Usually money or religion, IMO.
                      The point of the article is that they do seem to care. At least somewhat.

                      But unlikely to be enough to suit me. So my plan is twofold. First - include SCOTUS in my mailing list when I have something to gripe about. Second - begin to actively support expansion of the court.
                      David G
                      Harbor Woodworks
                      https://www.facebook.com/HarborWoodworks/

                      "It was a Sunday morning and Goddard gave thanks that there were still places where one could worship in temples not made by human hands." -- L. F. Herreshoff (The Compleat Cruiser)

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                        Originally posted by David G
                        The point of the article is that they do seem to care. At least somewhat.

                        But unlikely to be enough to suit me. So my plan is twofold. First - include SCOTUS in my mailing list when I have something to gripe about. Second - begin to actively support expansion of the court.
                        I advocated for that long ago and got shouted down by incrementalists. You're playing with fire.

                        Tom
                        Ponoszenie konsekwencji!

                        www.tompamperin.com

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                          Originally posted by WI-Tom
                          I advocated for that long ago and got shouted down by incrementalists. You're playing with fire.

                          Tom
                          I doubt I shouted, but I haven't supported the notion until recently. It's just gotten TOO corrupt and too consequentially dysfunctional... and they show little sign of self-correction. It's an extreme step, and fraught with potentially damaging Unintended Consequences. And until recently, there wasn't likely to be enough support to even get it into the conversation. But I think we've reached that point, at least in my mind.
                          David G
                          Harbor Woodworks
                          https://www.facebook.com/HarborWoodworks/

                          "It was a Sunday morning and Goddard gave thanks that there were still places where one could worship in temples not made by human hands." -- L. F. Herreshoff (The Compleat Cruiser)

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                            Originally posted by David G
                            I doubt I shouted, but I haven't supported the notion until recently. It's just gotten TOO corrupt and too consequentially dysfunctional... and they show little sign of self-correction. It's an extreme step, and fraught with potentially damaging Unintended Consequences. And until recently, there wasn't likely to be enough support to even get it into the conversation. But I think we've reached that point, at least in my mind.
                            Fair enough--"shouted" wasn't the right word at all; "disagreed" or "argued against" would be accurate. I don't even remember who disagreed, or if you were one of them or not. And I understand that intelligent arguments against expanding the court were made--there are real consequences to such an action.

                            I don't get to make that decision so I guess what I think doesn't matter too much. But expanding the court is a legal move, and the Dems have the power to do it if they choose.

                            Tom
                            Ponoszenie konsekwencji!

                            www.tompamperin.com

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                              Originally posted by David G
                              It's an extreme step, and fraught with potentially damaging Unintended Consequences.
                              I would hope that SCOTUS is an unintended consequence, that the Framers did not envisage that political animals could stop being people of honour. If they had, they might have drafted different clauses detailing the appointment and duties of SCOTUS.
                              It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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