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  • #16
    Re: wtf

    Originally posted by Kevin T
    "TFG" anyone? I must have missed the memo, can you help a brother out?
    The
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    You would not enjoy Nietzsche, sir. He is fundamentally unsound. — P.G. Wodehouse (Carry On, Jeeves)

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    • #17
      Re: wtf

      Originally posted by Paul Pless
      https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-65696475.amp

      she was coming towards the cop using her walker

      he tazed her twice

      dse
      I saw that yesterday. He could have just taken the knife away from her. Not like she's moving fast.

      It is nice to know that not all of the nutter cops are in the USA.
      You would not enjoy Nietzsche, sir. He is fundamentally unsound. — P.G. Wodehouse (Carry On, Jeeves)

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      • #18
        Re: wtf

        Originally posted by Fred Z
        get over it, joe. no snark, no insult, no ginormous pic - no problem.
        excepting the lifetime ban, that's a problem...

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        • #19
          Re: wtf

          Originally posted by Joe (SoCal)
          CWSmith Please don't quote TFG
          Originally posted by ron ll
          I second that.
          Sorry guys, but right is right. That cop, and it pains me to call him even that, needs to pay.
          "Where you live in the world should not determine whether you live in the world." - Bono

          "Live in such a way that you would not be ashamed to sell your parrot to the town gossip." - Will Rogers

          "Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." - Groucho Marx

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          • #20
            Re: wtf

            and in Indianola, Mississippi, a cop shot an unarmed 11 year old boy after his mother had police called to the house.



            Nakala Murry said police were called to the house because the father of her other child came over and was acting irate. When he acted this way, she knew something could potentially happen and wanted “to stop it right there.” She snuck her phone to her son and asked him to call her mother and the police.
            https://mississippitoday.org/2023/05...year-old-shot/

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            • #21
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              An elderly great-grandmother tasered by police during an incident at a Cooma nursing home last week has died.

              NSW Police confirmed Clare Nowland, 95, died "peacefully" in hospital just after 7pm on Wednesday, surrounded by family and loved ones.
              Mrs Nowland, who had dementia, was hospitalised in a critical condition after falling and fracturing her skull during the confrontation with officers at Yallambee Lodge on May 17.

              Police previously said they had been called to the facility and found Mrs Nowland holding a serrated steak knife and using a walking frame before the taser was deployed.

              Senior Constable Kristian White, 33, was charged earlier on Wednesday evening with recklessly causing grievous bodily harm, assault occasioning actual bodily harm, and common assault.

              He is suspended from duty on full pay and is due to appear in court on July 5.

              Staff at Yallambee Lodge in Cooma are assisting with police investigations.

              NSW Police Commissioner Karen Webb earlier said it was possible the charges against Senior Constable White could be upgraded if circumstances were to change.

              "In NSW you're innocent until proven guilty, [and] he is afforded the same as any other resident," she said.

              "It is possible [the charges could be upgraded], it depends on what happens."


              Commissioner Webb previously said she had not seen the police body-cam footage of the incident.


              The commissioner said she wanted to review the footage when she had a clearer picture of what had happened.


              Pressure has been growing for NSW Police Minister Yasmin Catley to view the vision, over concerns public confidence in the force has eroded.

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              • #22
                Re: wtf

                seriously effed
                Originally posted by Jimmy W
                and in Indianola, Mississippi, a cop shot an unarmed 11 year old boy after his mother had police called to the house.





                https://mississippitoday.org/2023/05...year-old-shot/
                Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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                • #23
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                  My wife worked with elderly demented people for years. We have been discussing this event at length. My wife said that when they lose it, some of the oldies have quite remarkable strength, will break furniture, pull stuff apart and throw it through windows, hiss and scream and growl and will attack anybody or anything within reach, can't be reasoned with and are actually dangerous. She feels bad for all involved, including the cop who isn't obliged to risk being knifed while trying to disarm the old girl. The missus also asked me how I would have dealt with the situation. I would have grabbed all the bedding off two or three beds and engulfed her in it so that she couldn't move- and then tasered her JayInOz

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                  • #24
                    Re: wtf

                    One would hope that the physical fitness standards of the police would ensure that officers could outrun 95 year old women in walker frames.

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                    • #25
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                      Last weekend in Oakland over a 72 hour period a gangs of kids aging 12 to 17 robbed, carjacked and assaulted 100 people. Many were carrying guns.

                      Without friends none of this is possible.

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                      • #26
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                        See those kids showed courage and initiative. Entrepreneurs in the making I reckon.

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                        • #27
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                          A folded towel over the arm and knife would have enabled the constable to disarm the old girl. As a youth worker with martial arts training i disarmed several angry adolescents who were armed with knives. With or without the towel as added protection, an arm lock and twist of the wrist and it's job done. Caution, de escalation and discretion are needed in the moment to ascertain if this is advisable or not. With the old girl needing a walking frame and armed with a steak knife I'm of the opinion that the cop failed in his duty of care as did the aged care home.
                          Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. Leonardo da Vinci.

                          If war is the answer........... it must be a profoundly stupid question.

                          "Freighters on the nod on the surface of the bay, One of these days we're going to sail away"
                          Bruce Cockburn

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                          • #28
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                            oakland eh?

                            i land there in about an hour. . .
                            Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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                            • #29
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                              Originally posted by Paul Pless
                              oakland eh?

                              i land there in about an hour. . .
                              But was it the gang or the people attacked who had the guns?
                              "If it ain't broke, you're not trying." - Red Green

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                              • #30
                                Re: wtf

                                A thing that's kind of invisible to most people around the world, and even to Australians, is how much Australians worship and obey rules.

                                There's a lot of talk about larrikinism and irreverence, but actually they are fanatical about rules. For example they love complicated signs, like parking signs that require a degree in English to read and a slide rule to understand.

                                What they hate is a vacuum. If you can spot a moment where you need to make up your mind about what is the right thing to do, here and now, they will erase that moment and put a rule in there to tell the next person precisely what they should do. They simply don't trust their fellow citizens to make the right choices. As a result you have this extraordinary layering of rules and exceptions thats impenetrable - but the moment you transgress, the one runt who really knows it will be standing thetre to tell you what you've done wrong. It leads to extremely poor behaviour; drivers here are incredibly selfish and rude - because they KNOW when they have the right of way.

                                Just yesterday i passed these two little Asian women, probably tourists, on a footpath. They were clearly unsure of something and they paused to confer with their phones. Probably a map issue. I passed them to my right and another guy walking towards them couldn't easily get around them. So he did this big dance hopping form one foot to the other, left to right, asking very firmly and loudly "EXCUSE ME.... EXCUSE ME" like he was being effing polite or something. Dick head. They didn't break any rules, but clearly footpaths are for locomotion, so what's this standing still BS!
                                It's a very common thing in Australia, there's no room for people who are less-abled, worried, confused, lost, or who just made a mistake. Because the rules are as clear as a half inch thick sheet of 316 Stainless Steel.

                                I can imagine that officer being trained to respond to a person carrying a knife and executing that training to the letter. But no doubt, somewhere in the vast tome of rules he's had to memorise and perform for years, there's some well disguised, dust covered, sentence about him having to use initiative. They'll use that to string him up - cause its the rules.
                                It's all fun and games until Darth Vader comes.

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