pitch pine on english oak

[Paul Pless]

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[gypsie]

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Very beautiful

[Peerie Maa]

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Those trees died in a good cause.

[Rich Jones]

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Very nice! One point: I like to see the angle of the bowsprit to follow the shear line. Picky, picky.
My gaffer had the same crinkle in the mainsail. Never did learn how to fix it. Neither did the second owner.

[wizbang 13]

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Very nice! One point: I like to see the angle of the bowsprit to follow the shear line. Picky, picky.
My gaffer had the same crinkle in the mainsail. Never did learn how to fix it. Neither did the second owner.

topping lifts/peak burton

[Peerie Maa]

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Very nice! One point: I like to see the angle of the bowsprit to follow the shear line. Picky, picky.

That only works with a fixed bowsprit, as on a cargo carrier.
Working boats like trawling smacks and drifters ran their bowsprits in, so a horizontal sprit worked better.

[Nicholas Carey]

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Very nice! One point: I like to see the angle of the bowsprit to follow the shear line. Picky, picky.
My gaffer had the same crinkle in the mainsail. Never did learn how to fix it. Neither did the second owner.

That boat may have a houseable bowsprit, which means it's got to be in the plane of the deck.

Ordinarily, I'd say that wrinkle indicates that the sail isn't peaked high enough, but it looks like it's peaked plenty high. Maybe ease the lacing at the head and/or ease off on the clew to reduce tension?

[Breakaway]

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Trunnel fastened?

[Peerie Maa]

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That boat may have a houseable bowsprit, which means it's got to be in the plane of the deck.

Ordinarily, I'd say that wrinkle indicates that the sail isn't peaked high enough, but it looks like it's peaked plenty high. Maybe ease the lacing at the head and/or ease off on the clew to reduce tension?

It is not easy to see from the resolution of that size of image, but there is a hint of topping lift and a grubby line where the topping lift rubs as well

[Paul Pless]

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Trunnel fastened?

that would just be over the top

[Henning 4148]

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... My gaffer had the same crinkle in the mainsail. ...

Ordinarily, too much tension on the throat halyard and not enough on the peak halyard. The classic rule was to tighten the peak halyard until you got a light crinkle from the end of the peak to the gooseneck with the sail flying out freely (mainsheet lose). In this particular case, possibly in addition too much tension on the bottom and top edge of the sail. The sail looks very flat. Could be more (tension on the connections between masthoops and sail, ...). Possibly also a lot of tension on the mainsheet in the photo in combination with stretchy halyards. That alone could also give you the crinkle. Not unusual to have to adjust or sweaten up the halyards after some time. Another trap: Some gaff saddles (ours did due to leverage) will increase the tension on the throat when you have raised the sail with horizontal standing peak and only after tying off the throat halyard raise the peak to its high standing position. In that case, you also end up with too much throat halyard tension - and should readjust. But here, it might just be a lot of tension on the mainsheet and stretchy halyards.

Not that we had our sail setting perfect always - no, no, certainly not.

A good introduction is Tom Cunliffe: Hand, reef and steer.

[Rich Jones]

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Ordinarily, too much tension on the throat halyard and not enough on the peak halyard. The classic rule was to tighten the peak halyard until you got a light crinkle from the end of the peak to the gooseneck with the sail flying out freely (mainsheet lose). In this particular case, possibly in addition too much tension on the bottom and top edge of the sail. The sail looks very flat. Could be more (tension on the connections between masthoops and sail, ...). Possibly also a lot of tension on the mainsheet in the photo in combination with stretchy halyards. That alone could also give you the crinkle. Not unusual to have to adjust or sweaten up the halyards after some time. Another trap: Some gaff saddles (ours did due to leverage) will increase the tension on the throat when you have raised the sail with horizontal standing peak and only after tying off the throat halyard raise the peak to its high standing position. In that case, you also end up with too much throat halyard tension - and should readjust. But here, it might just be a lot of tension on the mainsheet and stretchy halyards.

Not that we had our sail setting perfect always - no, no, certainly not.

A good introduction is Tom Cunliffe: Hand, reef and steer.

Too bad this Forum wasn't around when I built and sailed that boat!

[Henning 4148]

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Too bad this Forum wasn't around when I built and sailed that boat!

Don't worry - I think it was the third or fourth year we had our gaffer that we approached something in the direction of a useable setup on the main. Certainly not perfect by all means. There are a lot of ropes to play with on a gaff boat.

[Peerie Maa]

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We have a name for her.
OUR LIZZIE was built in 1920 by W. J. Oliver & Sons at Porthleven, Cornwall as a St Ives fishing lugger.
The counter stern was unusual for a St Ives boat, they were more common at Mevagissey.
She would originally have set a big dipping lug foresail and standing lug mizzen with a gaff topsail over.

[artif]

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Ramsgate harbour

She was a Dunkirk little ship as well

https://www.adls.org.uk/our-lizzie

I can relate to the launching technique, as I was involved in launching a couple of large catamarans at Porthleven from the yard, but we had to hand tirfor them rather than the steam engine assist.