Will Erdogan Win?

[dutchpp]

Re: Will Erdogan Win?

Most Australians voted against him.
Most western countries did. Interesting axis, across north Africa, and straight up through France to Norway.... A pattern? Muslim populations?

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/...n-off-election

Yes, mostly first an second generation Turks, Algerians, Tunisians, Moroccans etc. that emigrated to the western countries in the 60's and 70's of last century to do the dirty and unpleasant work.

[WszystekPoTrochu]

Re: Will Erdogan Win?

Most Australians voted against him.
Most western countries did. Interesting axis, across north Africa, and straight up through France to Norway.... A pattern? Muslim populations?

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/...n-off-election

Most by area, in actual votes it's 60% for Erdogan. The yellow area from Al Jazeera's map has significantly more Turks than the red. Most of countries where he won have a million+ Turkish emigrants, of the red ones only USA crosses the number.

[Dave Hadfield]

Re: Will Erdogan Win?

Cases like Erdogan make me question the whole idea of expats voting. One won't live through consequences of your vote, one has only faint idea of what consequences of previous elections were. No man should be ever stripped of citizenship against their will, but there is something inherently undemocratic in affecting choices of community you are no longer active member of.

Agree. Unless you are actually representing your country while away.

[gypsie]

Re: Will Erdogan Win?

It may have been a choice between someone bad and someone worse.
Again the motivations of people around the world confounds me.
Why can't they find a 'good' candidate. Good by my measure that is

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/05/31/in-turkey-the-bitter-sweet-relief-of-syrian-refugees-after-erdogan-s-victory_6028666_4.html

The presence in Turkey of 3.6 million refugees who fled the war in Syria has led to xenophobic rhetoric from presidential candidates. The refugees are still threatened with deportation.

"For me, it would be a one-way ticket to death anyway," said Ahmad. A former community leader in Idlib, the he was forced to flee in January 2015, with the jihadists of the Al-Nosra Front (now Hayat Tahrir Al-Sham) chasing him. In the small apartment he shares with his wife in Reyhanli, a border town where the population has more than doubled in 10 years, Ahmad described himself as a "prisoner" with no future.

Visible from his window, the concrete wall that separates the two countries. At the top of the ridge, a Syrian watchtower seems to watch over the town. "I live every day in terror that one morning they'll come knocking on my door to send us back to the other side," he said. "So should I prefer one of the Turkish parties to the other? They're the same. Kiliçdaroglu promised to slit our throats; Erdogan is slowly strangling us with a silk thread."