this is some good socialist **** right here

[Paul Pless]

california is going into the insulin manufacturing business
promises a 90% price reduction
and full compatibility with all current prescriptions
a 10ml which currently sells for $300 will sell for $30
packages of preloaded doses which currently sell for $500 will be $55


https://www.gov.ca.gov/2023/03/18/governor-newsom-announces-30-insulin-through-calrx/

[LeeG]

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works for me

[garland reese]

About time!


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[skuthorp]

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The trumpistas will be conflicted. Will some states prohibit it's use within their borders? Call it a drug of dependence?………...

[David G]

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Not socialism, as the state of CA does not intend to own the means of insulin mfgr. They are just eliminating the middleman, it seems.

[skuthorp]

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I'm sure the drug companies and said middlemen will find a gun-for-hire lawyer to argue against it.

[Jim Bow]

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how much does insulin cost in Canada? Can Californios expect an influx?

[Ted Hoppe]

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How about we fix the quality of food, diets, encourage physical movement and discourage obesity so people don't get diabetes as easily?

That would be progress. Yeah - medicine is the cheap, fast fix in a world you can not criticize real reason why diabetes happens.

[Ed Harrow]

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How about we fix the quality of food, diets, encourage physical movement and discourage obesity so people don't get diabetes as easily?

That would be progress. Yeah - medicine is the cheap, fast fix in a world you can not criticize real reason why diabetes happens.

Some are born diabetic. Some (a vanishingly small # to be sure), like Paladin, lose their pancreas to a piece of hot lead.

[Canoeyawl]

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That's really encouraging!

We could do this for all medications but oh - pity the poor corporations...
No longer able to bend us over and er, spank us. The reds are going to scream bloody murder.

Gavin Newsom for president

[David G]

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How about we fix the quality of food, diets, encourage physical movement and discourage obesity so people don't get diabetes as easily?

That would be progress. Yeah - medicine is the cheap, fast fix in a world you can not criticize real reason why diabetes happens.

Good idea.

But the way you say it makes it sound like either/or. And like it's solely an issue of 'personal responsibility'. It's not.

[Canoeyawl]

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How about we fix the quality of food, diets, encourage physical movement and discourage obesity so people don't get diabetes as easily?

That would be progress. Yeah - medicine is the cheap, fast fix in a world you can not criticize real reason why diabetes happens.

I'm going to disagree right here...
See: https://www.cdc.gov/diabetes/basics/diabetes.html

My nephew collapsed at the podium while presenting a treatise for his master's thesis (Bates) and the final diagnoses was type one diabetes. He (a lacrosse player) never had any previous symptoms and all the diets in the world won't change that. It's a big deal.
(He subsequently gave up on his literary career plan and went to work at the Joslin Clinic in Boston. While there he attended (free) night school at Harvard taking pre med classes, and went on with a scholarship to become an MD)

[Lugs]

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It's a stinker of a disease and the profiteering done on insulin is disgusting. A good friend of mine, a Type 1 diabetic since he was a kid, suicided last year - in his early-mid 50's - due to the health and lifestyle impacts of it. In his case, he'd progressed through prostate removal in his late 40's and significant heart operations in his early 50's. As he said when I tried to talk him out of it "life holds no joy anymore" Apparently the beta-blockers used in relation to the heart issues kill the endorphins - and as he said "even an orgasm isn't fun anymore, or backing a bike into a corner at speed... it's all just mehhh..." He bought his ex girlfriend a house and business, gave his bikes to friends, said goodbye and went to sleep.

[Ted Hoppe]

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Good idea.

But the way you say it makes it sound like either/or. And like it's solely an issue of 'personal responsibility'. It's not.

We agree that it is not all or nothing. We really need to have a national serious dialog about what is making many sick. We demand that insulin should be cheap and yet not a single word about government subsidized corn syrup and sugar corn products in every process food is making us sick with diabetes. We are bigger and fatter than we were 20 and 30 years ago. It is not by mistake as our diet and lack of physical exercise has changed our physiology in mass, our ability to healthy and in a way a significant reason Covid was as deadly as it was/is to so many folks who struggle with sever weight and metabolic imbalances.

[bluedog225]

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It’s not about health care. The commercials lie.

It’s about cash flow. Full stop.