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"Banning books in spite of the 1st amendment, but refusing to regulate guns in spite of "well regulated militia' being in the 2nd amendment makes no sense. Can't think of anyone ever shot by a book
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Do not speak of "our institutions" unless you make them yours by acting on their behalf.
Timothy Snyder, On Tyranny (2017)Comment
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Re: January 6th
They crawled like vermin over the steps where Abraham Lincoln delivered his second inagural address. Seven minutes.
Do not speak of "our institutions" unless you make them yours by acting on their behalf.
Timothy Snyder, On Tyranny (2017)Comment
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Re: January 6th
The text is inscribed on the wall of the Lincoln Memorial:This theologically intense speech has been widely acknowledged as one of the most remarkable documents in American history. The London Spectator said of it, "We cannot read it without a renewed conviction that it is the noblest political document known to history, and should have for the nation and the statesmen he left behind him something of a sacred and almost prophetic character."
Journalist Noah Brooks, who witnessed the speech, said that as Lincoln advanced from his seat, "a roar of applause shook the air, and, again and again repeated, finally died away on the outer fringe of the throng, like a sweeping wave upon the shore. Just at that moment the sun, which had been obscured all day, burst forth in its unclouded meridian splendor, and flooded the spectacle with glory and with light." Brooks said Lincoln told him the next day, "Did you notice that sunburst? It made my heart jump."
According to Brooks, the audience received the speech in "profound silence," although some passages provoked cheers and applause. "Looking down into the faces of the people, illuminated by the bright rays of the sun, one could see moist eyes and even tearful faces."
SATURDAY, MARCH 4, 1865
Fellow-Countrymen:
At this second appearing to take the oath of the Presidential office there is less occasion for an extended address than there was at the first. Then a statement somewhat in detail of a course to be pursued seemed fitting and proper. Now, at the expiration of four years, during which public declarations have been constantly called forth on every point and phase of the great contest which still absorbs the attention and engrosses the energies of the nation, little that is new could be presented. The progress of our arms, upon which all else chiefly depends, is as well known to the public as to myself, and it is, I trust, reasonably satisfactory and encouraging to all. With high hope for the future, no prediction in regard to it is ventured.
On the occasion corresponding to this four years ago all thoughts were anxiously directed to an impending civil war. All dreaded it, all sought to avert it. While the inaugural address was being delivered from this place, devoted altogether to saving the Union without war, insurgent agents were in the city seeking to destroy it without war--seeking to dissolve the Union and divide effects by negotiation. Both parties deprecated war, but one of them would make war rather than let the nation survive, and the other would accept war rather than let it perish, and the war came.
One-eighth of the whole population were colored slaves, not distributed generally over the Union, but localized in the southern part of it. These slaves constituted a peculiar and powerful interest. All knew that this interest was somehow the cause of the war. To strengthen, perpetuate, and extend this interest was the object for which the insurgents would rend the Union even by war, while the Government claimed no right to do more than to restrict the territorial enlargement of it. Neither party expected for the war the magnitude or the duration which it has already attained. Neither anticipated that the cause of the conflict might cease with or even before the conflict itself should cease. Each looked for an easier triumph, and a result less fundamental and astounding. Both read the same Bible and pray to the same God, and each invokes His aid against the other. It may seem strange that any men should dare to ask a just God's assistance in wringing their bread from the sweat of other men's faces, but let us judge not, that we be not judged. The prayers of both could not be answered. That of neither has been answered fully. The Almighty has His own purposes. "Woe unto the world because of offenses; for it must needs be that offenses come, but woe to that man by whom the offense cometh." If we shall suppose that American slavery is one of those offenses which, in the providence of God, must needs come, but which, having continued through His appointed time, He now wills to remove, and that He gives to both North and South this terrible war as the woe due to those by whom the offense came, shall we discern therein any departure from those divine attributes which the believers in a living God always ascribe to Him? Fondly do we hope, fervently do we pray, that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue until all the wealth piled by the bondsman's two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said "the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether."
With malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in, to bind up the nation's wounds, to care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow and his orphan, to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and with all nations.
(emphasis added)
https://mail.abrahamlincolnonline.or...hes/inaug2.htmDo not speak of "our institutions" unless you make them yours by acting on their behalf.
Timothy Snyder, On Tyranny (2017)Comment
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Re: January 6th
Four and a half years
One of the great things about this forum is that we don't all have to accumulate the same scar tissue.
AJ Zimm
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"Where you live in the world should not determine whether you live in the world." - Bono
"Live in such a way that you would not be ashamed to sell your parrot to the town gossip." - Will Rogers
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Re: January 6th
Is it my imagination or are the sentences getting longer?Comment
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Re: January 6th
Originally Posted by Osborne Russell 
I take it there are to be no prosecutions of war crimes in connection with the invasion of Iraq..
Precedent once again, neither side wants to set that in the record lest they are swept up in the same pan. If the law doesn't apply to the highest in the land then it should not apply to the lowest. and I will be very surprised if donald is convicted of anything other than maybe civil fraud, let alone see the inside of a pokey. Precedent again. If one president/chief law officer can be convicted then they alll can, including incidentally the judiciary. And those ultimately responsible for the mass murders in Iraq, and other theatres, and their own citizens put in harms way for ideological, or private profit reasons.
I reckon no one at the top will ever be convicted, let alone suffer an appropriate penalty..
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Re: January 6th
I reckon there's a ninety nine percent chance that orange donny is convicted, especially in the documents case. The chance of jail, probably better than fifty fifty. And we may not have to wait too much longer to find out. Jack Smith is wrapping up his investigation. https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white...e-176568389763 JayInOzComment
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Re: January 6th
Jist going to say (as I've called out multiple times over the years), that all of the Geneva Conventions of 1949 bear language similar, or identical, to these articles from Geneva III (Prisoners of War):
Article 129 - Penal sanctions
The High Contracting Parties undertake to enact any legislation necessary to provide effective penal sanctions for persons committing, or ordering to be committed, any of the grave breaches of the present Convention defined in the following Article .
Each High Contracting Party shall be under the obligation to search for persons alleged to have committed, or to have ordered to be committed, such grave breaches, and shall bring such persons, regardless of their nationality, before its own courts. It may also, if it prefers, and in accordance with the provisions of its own legislation, hand such persons over for trial to another High Contracting Party concerned, provided such High Contracting Party has made out a prima facie case.
Each High Contracting Party shall take measures necessary for the suppression of all acts contrary to the provisions of the present Convention other than the grave breaches defined in the following Article .
In all circumstances, the accused persons shall benefit by safeguards of proper trial and defence, which shall not be less favourable than those provided by Article 105 and those following of the present Convention.
Article 130 - Grave breaches
Grave breaches to which the preceding Article relates shall be those involving any of the following acts, if committed against persons or property protected by the Convention: wilful killing, torture or inhuman treatment, including biological experiments, wilfully causing great suffering or serious injury to body or health, compelling a prisoner of war to serve in the forces of the hostile Power, or wilfully depriving a prisoner of war of the rights of fair and regular trial prescribed in this Convention.
Article 131 - Responsibilities of the Contracting Parties
No High Contracting Party shall be allowed to absolve itself or any other High Contracting Party of any liability incurred by itself or by another High Contracting Party in respect of breaches referred to in the preceding Article.
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Regardless of whether or not the USA, or any other nation, is a party to the ICC at Den Haag, all "High Contracting Parties" to the Geneva Conventions of 1949 — that would be almost all of the nations of the world — are charged with the obligation to hunt down and prosecute such Grave Breaches.
Doesn't take the UN. Doesn't take the ICC. Does take gronicles.You would not enjoy Nietzsche, sir. He is fundamentally unsound. — P.G. Wodehouse (Carry On, Jeeves)Comment
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Re: January 6th
^^ Interesting and useful information, but it makes you wonder why the US implemented the The Hague invasion act, jelly chronicles?
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