Oathkeepers trial - verdict being read now

[George Jung]

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Stories coming out, and already alluded to - anticipating a spike in violence around the 2024 elections. Perhaps that 'civil war' is what's going to be required to get to a 're-set'.

[John Smith]

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I suspect the next such effort will face more prepared opposition.

[gypsie]

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Terrific result.

As a thought experiment, it would be fascinating for Trump to have the capacity to pardon him. What would that look like?
He'd be compelled to, but, pardoning someone found so firmly guilty of a real bloody crime. All that character assessment from his family.

For the GOP going into the nominations, knowing that if their man gets in this ef-wit gets out. Politically, that's the kimono opened and dropped on the ground. Could they do it?

[TomF]

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It's certainly likely that Trump, or a Trumpist successor, would pardon him and others like him. It's part of the risk, which only one party in Congress seems to wish to manage.

[Canoeyawl]

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Trump has pardoned convicted cold blooded killers...
This treason bit is nothing to him

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/27/eddie-gallagher-trump-navy-seal-iraq

[Chip-skiff]

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Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes sentenced to 18 years in prison on Jan. 6 charges

Robert Legare, Scott MacFarlane
May 25, 2023

Washington — Stewart Rhodes, the founder of the far-right group known as the Oath Keepers, was sentenced to 18 years in prison for seditious conspiracy and other crimes related to the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol, receiving the longest sentence in a Jan. 6 case to date.

Judge Amit Mehta of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia imposed the sentence Thursday after a hearing in which Rhodes declared himself a "political prisoner" and likened himself to former President Donald Trump.

Prosecutors had asked Mehta to impose a sentence of 25 years in prison, saying Rhodes, who is 58, qualified for a more lengthy sentence under federal anti-terrorism laws given the "threat of harm and the historic significance" of his crimes. Mehta agreed to impose the enhancements, noting that Rhodes did not demonstrate "acceptance of responsibility" for his role in the attack. It was the first time the terrorism enhancement has been applied to a Jan. 6 defendant.

Delivering a withering rebuke to Rhodes before handing down the sentence, Mehta said he presents "an ongoing threat and a peril to this country and its democracy." Seditious conspiracy "is among the most serious crimes an individual American can commit," he said. "It's an offense against the government, to use force. It's an offense against the people of the country."

A jury convicted Rhodes and other Oath Keepers last November for a host of crimes related to Jan. 6, when a mob of Trump supporters breached the Capitol in an attempt to block the formal transfer of power from Trump to President Biden. "You are not a political prisoner, Mr. Rhodes," Mehta said. "You are here for that conduct, not because of your beliefs … You stand convicted because 12 jurors in the District of Columbia ... convicted you of sedition."

"We all now hold our collective breaths with an election approaching. Will we have another January 6th? That remains to be seen," the judge said of the consequences of Rhodes' actions.

Rhodes — the first Jan. 6 defendant to be sentenced for the seditious conspiracy charge — "pushed the idea among Oath Keepers members and others that with a large enough mob, they could intimidate Congress and its Members and impose the conspirators' will rather than the American people's: to stop the certification of the next President of the United States," the government alleged in pre-sentencing filings.

Addressing the judge before the sentence was handed down, Rhodes said he was "sympathetic" to the trauma that many law enforcement experienced during the Jan. 6 attack, but argued many members of the Oath Keepers were not violent that day. "I believe this country is incredibly divided, and this prosecution — not just of me, but for every Jan. 6er — is making it even worse," he added. Rhodes told the judge that the Oath Keepers were not at the Capitol to instigate violence, unlike groups like the Proud Boys.

However, according to prosecutors, Rhodes and his fellow Oath Keepers planned for violence ahead of the Capitol breach, communicated via encrypted messages and radios during the attack, and celebrated their actions in its aftermath.

"It is conduct that threatened and continues to threaten the rule of law in the United States," prosecutors said in court on Thursday. "Mr. Rhodes has been calling for violent opposition to the authority of the government of the United States for well over a decade … He continues to advocate for political violence."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/stewart...ing-january-6/

[Jim Bow]

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George Jung, shame on you. Using "Stories coming out" as an opening phrase is right out of the Tucker Carlson playback.

[Canoeyawl]

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Actually this guy is a freaking suma cum laude graduate, then Yale Law graduate who wrote a brilliant paper condemning Bush era overreach on the Patriot Act.

He was initially a hard core Libertarian before he lost his mind down the Trump rabbit hole.

He’s dangerous because he’s NOT stupid.

Pretty sure he is stupid, and serving time for it

[WX]

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Just crucifying another little fish.

[Peerie Maa]

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Just crucifying another little fish.

pour encourager les autres.

[ShorelineJohn]

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It does pave the way for 25 years for trump.

[Gerarddm]

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Wasn't this fellow at one point an FBI informant too? Or am I confusing him with another militia moron?

See my signature. If you vote that way, there will be no pardons for seditious schmucks.

[Durnik]

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Just crucifying another little fish.

altho crucifying little fish is definitely a u.s. problem, this one was actually a medium size fish.. acting in a leadership role..


and this 'toon got a chuckle..
Screenshot 2023-05-26 at 13.51.21.jpg

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[Jimmy W]

Proud Boys leader Joe Biggs sentenced to 17 years in January 6 case
Zachary Rehl, the former leader of the Proud Boys' Philadelphia chapter, to 15 years in prison.

[Peerie Maa]

US Army veteran Joe Biggs, 38, was an instigator of the storming of Congress on 6 January 2021, prosecutors said.
The former Infowars correspondent was convicted of seditious conspiracy and other charges in May.
In court, Biggs pleaded for leniency and expressed remorse for his actions.
The sentence, handed down by US District Judge Timothy Kelly, is below both federal sentencing guidelines and the 33 years sought by prosecutors.
Another Proud Boys member, Zachary Rehl, was sentenced on Thursday to 15 years, also on a charge of seditious conspiracy.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66676581

In spite of his arguments in court, the video shows Biggs using a radio. If he was not coordinating the insurgents, why the radio.?