Biden going after semi-automatics?

[Peerie Maa]

Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

Do you not read? I'm not content with any violence or premature death. Get it through your think head, if the USA goes fascist, you're next. If The dems ban guns, effectively removing a right, they will lose, if they lose, you lose. Are you good with that? Or are you simply having too much fun blindly arguing a lost cause? Because that's the definition of stupid, in case you didn't know.

WTF even makes you think an EO banning semi-autos will make it past SCOTUS? It would represent so much lost political capital, credibility, and simply not bring in or turn over any votes. We're fighting for our GD democracy over here, STFU and figure it out.

So you are against even trying?
Mind you, your much published paranoia about the US going Fascist and starting shooting people at random goes along way to explain why you don't want to try.

Yes, the need for personal firearm ownership. If Trump had his way, the only good Democrat was going to be a dead one. Still a threat too. The tyranny of government is a real possibility, especially since it looks like way to many people couldn't be bothered to vote. I've concede to Pearl Dog, Phillip Allen, Donn-nanaaaa, and others.

[McMike]

Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

So you are against even trying?
Mind you, your much published paranoia about the US going Fascist and starting shooting people at random goes along way to explain why you don't want to try.

Right now; YES!

No progress will occur in this country until we reach some kind of political stability. The gun issue is inflammatory and will only lead to more polarization. We can't even get popular things like Universal Healthcare or even abolishing daylight savings time done . . . JFC, you pick the thing that is literally written into our constitution, no matter how poorly interpreted, to sit there and bitc4 about and bust my balls about? This goal is not feasible and will lose democrats votes which will cause our country to regress even more. You act like I make the rules . . . I'm just along for the ride man.

As for your indictment of my judgement, lol, if that's all you have left to try to win this argument . . . well, that says more about you than me. How many fu24ing times do I have to tell you that if I could snap my fingers and make all guns in the USA go away . . . I would in a heartbeat, even if it meant my instant death, but that's a fu34ing bullsh17 fantasy, just like yours.

[Bob Adams]

Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

that ban had zero effect on violent crime

Exactly correct.

[David W Pratt]

Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

How?

Well, not by EO. I would seek out expert guidance. In his position, I would: Task the CDC to analyze the causes and treatments of domestic violence and use those findings to craft relevant laws and social services; Further I would invite heads of major religions to the Whitehouse for a conference on same and challenge them to come up with internal programs to deal with DV; Similarly, recruit representatives from NASCAR, MLB, NFL, et al. for the same mission.
Treat it like drunk driving, or smoking both of which have become much less socially acceptable in the last couple of decades.
Fro a start

[Joe (SoCal)]

Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

It had an effect on mass shootings.

[McMike]

Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

Well, not by EO. I would seek out expert guidance. In his position, I would: Task the CDC to analyze the causes and treatments of domestic violence and use those findings to craft relevant laws and social services; Further I would invite heads of major religions to the Whitehouse for a conference on same and challenge them to come up with internal programs to deal with DV; Similarly, recruit representatives from NASCAR, MLB, NFL, et al. for the same mission.
Treat it like drunk driving, or smoking both of which have become much less socially acceptable in the last couple of decades.
Fro a start

Yeah, so you don't know either . . . I'd start by criminalizing bad parenting. If your kid is fat, jail. If your kid sucks in school, jail. Children need a bill of rights, like the right to grow up in a household that is loving and supportive and if a parent can't provide that, work camp to pay someone else to do it. Awwww fu34, I forgot, this is America, land of the freedom to raise sh177y people. This country sucks giant moose wang.

[Joe (SoCal)]

Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

McMike's dog

[McMike]

Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

McMike's dog

Huh?

[Joe (SoCal)]

Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

Its a joke Mike, relax.

You were going off on all sorts of things, bad parenting, civil war, and we all need a gun to solve all the upcoming problems, I saw this cartoon and thought of your avatar and about bad dog parenting

[Paul Pless]

Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

It had an effect on mass shootings.

the clinton era assault weapons ban had zero effect on any forms of gun violence
because the ban was entirely meaningless - this has been well studied
manufacturers simply removed the cosmetic features described in the ban and continued selling the same guns less items like flash suppressors, bayonet lugs, and folding stocks; folding stocks remained available through the aftermarket as did high capacity magazines

there was a decrease in violent crime rates during the clinton administration but that decrease is attributable to better economic conditions

[McMike]

Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

Its a joke Mike, relax.

You were going off on all sorts of things, bad parenting, civil war, and we all need a gun to solve all the upcoming problems, I saw this cartoon and thought of your avatar and about bad dog parenting

I'm totally relaxed . . .it's 8:30 here, feet up, jammies on, hoodie up. I truly had no idea what you were talking about. And Paul is right.

[Decourcy]

Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

the clinton era assault weapons ban had zero effect on any forms of gun violence
because the ban was entirely meaningless
manufacturers simply removed the cosmetic features described in the ban and continued selling the same guns less items like flash suppressors, bayonet lugs, and folding stocks; folding stocks remained available through the aftermarket as did high capacity magazines

there was a decrease in violent crime rates during the clinton administration but that decrease is attributable to better economic conditions

No no no Paul. Correlation must always equal causation. Hence why the decline in violence is actually due to the decline of pastel paint colours in houses during those years.

[Nicholas Carey]

All I know is that the differences between this semi-auto rifle, Browning BAR (comes stock with a 10-round detachable box magazine)





And these semi-auto rifles (Smith & Wesson M+P 15 and Daniel Defense DDM4 V7)





Are largely cosmetic. And the Browning is probably built to a higher standard, and is cheaper (the Browning lists at c. $1300-$1800, depending on variant and dress; the Daniel Defense rifle lists at $2100)

But the Browning BAR has not been used, as far as I know in a mass shooting. And the AR variants tend to be the preferred weapon for mass shootings.

Those latter two are the weapon models used by the killer in Uvalde, Texas.

[McMike]

Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

All I know is that the differences between this semi-auto rifle, Browning BAR (comes stock with a 10-round detachable box magazine)

Are largely cosmetic. And the Browning is probably built to a higher standard, and is cheaper (the Browning lists at c. $1300-$1800, depending on variant and dress; the Daniel Defense rifle lists at $2100)

But the Browning BAR has not been used, as far as I know in a mass shooting. And the AR variants tend to be the preferred weapon for mass shootings.

Those latter two are the weapon models used by the killer in Uvalde, Texas.

Yup, and take the fancy "AR" style away and crims will start buying "hunting" rifles.

[Decourcy]

Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

You can buy an AR for less than $400