Biden going after semi-automatics?

[Joe (SoCal)]

Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

[Steve McMahon]

Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

Like moose hunting is the only reason to have a rifle…..
Silly.

Fyi, refer to the 300 page list ti see how many aren’t actually “black” or even semi.

Enlighten me…. Hunting, sport shooting at a range, varmit control on a farm. Other than killing people what other use is there and why would you need a semi automatic or more than 3 bullets in the magazine? I don’t agree with the Total ban on civilian hand gun use. I think one should be able to buy or rent a handgun at a range facility, sport shoot with it there, and it never leaves the range.
btw, I am a gun owner and used to be an avid small and big game hunter.

[Decourcy]

Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

It is a good explanation of why semi autos are unnecessary. Our professional gamekeepers stalking or culling deer do not use them, their rifles are limited to three round magazines. None of our shooting fraternity uses semi autos, cos they are illegal in the UK.

No, as has been explained many times before. Hunting is less than 50% of firearms owners in Canada, and decreasing. Most only target shoot at ranges.

And even for hunting, there are types that make a semi more useful. I certainly would prefer one for feral pig control, having been attacked by boars before. Also the lighter recoil is one of the reasons they are very popular for women, smaller men, and younger adults.

[Joe (SoCal)]

Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

Steve there is along standing wild boar argument thats pretty lame. But the #1 reason is “I LIKE HIGH CAPACITY SEMI AUTO GUNS” I get that you like something and you don’t want it taken away. Granted its not the best argument but it’s all they have.

EDITED TO ADD: I called the Pig argument while I was composing my post Decourcy proved my point, thank you Decourcy

Also edited to add: “ very popular for ………, smaller men, and younger adults” like

Columbine High School massacre: 18-year-old Eric Harris and 17-year-old Dylan Klebold, students at Columbine High School, killed 12 students and one teacher.

15-year-old student Thomas "T.J." Solomon Jr. wounded six students at Heritage High School. A 15-year-old girl was hospitalized in critical condition,

13-year-old Victor Cordova Jr. fatally shot 13-year-old Deming Middle School schoolmate Araceli Tena. Cordova said he had intended to commit suicide but was jostled by others and his gun moved.He could not be charged as an adult as he was under 14, so he received the maximum sentence for a juvenile: a minimum of two years in prison, with a maximum of being held until his 21st birthday. In December 2003, he was released to his aunt and uncle to live with them in Colorado.

<sup>13-year-old Seth Trickey opened fire in the courtyard of his middle school using a gun brought from home. While there were no fatalities, several students felt sparks
from the bullets hitting the building walls. Five were injured, including a girl who was shot in the face. He was tried as a juvenile and released in March 2005.

Shooting of Kayla Rolland: At Buell Elementary School, a 6-year-old boy fatally shot 6-year-old classmate Kayla Rolland. To date, the boy is the youngest documented
fatal school shooter

13-year-old honor student, Nathaniel Brazill was sent home for throwing water balloons, but returned to his Lake Worth Middle School with a family pistol.
He fatally shot teacher Barry Grunow, who was popular at the school

LOTS and LOTS more here</sup>

[Decourcy]

Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

Enlighten me…. Hunting, sport shooting at a range, varmit control on a farm. Other than killing people what other use is there and why would you need a semi automatic or more than 3 bullets in the magazine? I don’t agree with the Total ban on civilian hand gun use. I think one should be able to buy or rent a handgun at a range facility, sport shoot with it there, and it never leaves the range.
btw, I am a gun owner and used to be an avid small and big game hunter.

Pointless discussion as we have been here before. My ruger no1 may be on the block. Hope that makes you feel safer. The end plan is English style laws.

[Steve McMahon]

Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

No, as has been explained many times before. Hunting is less than 50% of firearms owners in Canada, and decreasing. Most only target shoot at ranges.

And even for hunting, there are types that make a semi more useful. I certainly would prefer one for feral pig control, having been attacked by boars before. Also the lighter recoil is one of the reasons they are very popular for women, smaller men, and younger adults.

so how about some real reasons to own a semi? What percentage of gun owners need protection from pigs? Fer crying out load, if you can’t handle the recoil get a smaller caliber rifle, or a smaller gauge shotgun, lots of choices available. I could handle a 30-30 and a 16 gauge when I was 13 years old and weighed less than 80 lbs.

[Peerie Maa]

Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

No, as has been explained many times before. Hunting is less than 50% of firearms owners in Canada, and decreasing. Most only target shoot at ranges.

And even for hunting, there are types that make a semi more useful. I certainly would prefer one for feral pig control, having been attacked by boars before. Also the lighter recoil is one of the reasons they are very popular for women, smaller men, and younger adults.

The same argument applies about target shooting at ranges, Long guns with three round magazines or air pistols are still legal for target shooting. Semi autos are unnecessary.

More popular than living relatives or school kids?

Kudos to Canadians for being less murderous and homicidal than US Citizens. If your gun fatality rate were as high, would you still be supporting unregulated gun ownership?

[sandtown]

Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

What else do we expect? 600 mass killings while Democrats controlled the federal government only reflects that the Democrats did nothing to change the laws..

For sure, the GOPPER NRA has zero responsibility . . . (insert sarcasm thingy)

[Joe (SoCal)]

Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

No, as has been explained many times before. Hunting is less than 50% of firearms owners in Canada, and decreasing. Most only target shoot at ranges.

Also the lighter recoil is one of the reasons they are very popular for women, smaller men, and younger adults.

You are all for regulating Drones but not High Capacity Semi Auto Guns - I’m gonna have to call weird on that one

“ very popular for ………, smaller men, and younger adults”

Like …..

Columbine High School massacre: 18-year-old Eric Harris and 17-year-old Dylan Klebold, students at Columbine High School, killed 12 students and one teacher.

15-year-old student Thomas "T.J." Solomon Jr. wounded six students at Heritage High School. A 15-year-old girl was hospitalized in critical condition,

13-year-old Victor Cordova Jr. fatally shot 13-year-old Deming Middle School schoolmate Araceli Tena. Cordova said he had intended to commit suicide but was jostled by others and his gun moved.He could not be charged as an adult as he was under 14, so he received the maximum sentence for a juvenile: a minimum of two years in prison, with a maximum of being held until his 21st birthday. In December 2003, he was released to his aunt and uncle to live with them in Colorado.

<sup>13-year-old Seth Trickey opened fire in the courtyard of his middle school using a gun brought from home. While there were no fatalities, several students felt sparks
from the bullets hitting the building walls. Five were injured, including a girl who was shot in the face. He was tried as a juvenile and released in March 2005.

Shooting of Kayla Rolland: At Buell Elementary School, a 6-year-old boy fatally shot 6-year-old classmate Kayla Rolland. To date, the boy is the youngest documented
fatal school shooter

13-year-old honor student, Nathaniel Brazill was sent home for throwing water balloons, but returned to his Lake Worth Middle School with a family pistol.
He fatally shot teacher Barry Grunow, who was popular at the school</sup>

13 year-olds Darrel Johnson and Alfred Anderson were initially charged with attempted first-degree murder, in the shooting of 15 year-old William Pennington. Pennington, after being shot, gained control of the gun and shot Johnson in the back
A 15-year-old Junipero Serra High Schoolstudent who showed off a handgun on campus and threatened to shoot a classmate, ended up accidentally shooting himself, causing minor injuries

Santana High School shooting: 15-year-old student, Charles Andrew Williams, killed two students, 14-year-old Bryan Zuckor, and 17-year-old Randy Gordon, at Santana High School. In total, he wounded thirteen others.

17-year-old Donald Ray Burt Jr., fatally shot Neal Boyd IV, with one bullet to the head in a parking lot outside Lew Wallace High School.
A 15-year-old student was shot in the abdomen and wounded inside the basement of Lincoln High School during an argument with another student. Another 15-year-old student was arrested and charged with attempted murder.

John McDonogh High School shooting. 18-year-old Steven Williams, and 17-year-old James Tate, opened fire with an AK-47 and a handgun in the gymnasium of John McDonogh High School, killing a 15-year-old student and wounding three female students.

^{LOTS and LOTS more here}

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States_(2000–present)

[sandtown]

Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

so how about some real reasons to own a semi? .

For sure, no way should our lives "trump" gunz raths.

[Decourcy]

Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

Well, we had a thread about voting where I suggested that only those with some level
of knowledge should be allowed to vote. This thread is a good demonstration as to why.

[Peerie Maa]

Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

The end plan is English style laws.

That would be a good thing. Read the statistics and think about why they are so low.

BTW I belong to a fishing and wild fowling association. My companies sport club has a pistol shooting range on its premises, a colleague belonged to a rifle shooting club with a range in the outskirts of the town. There will be gamekeepers and farmers with shotgun and rifle licences used for managing deer herds and game shooting. Our laws do not prevent shooting where appropriate.

[Decourcy]

Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

The same argument applies about target shooting at ranges, Long guns with three round magazines or air pistols are still legal for target shooting. Semi autos are unnecessary.

More popular than living relatives or school kids?

Kudos to Canadians for being less murderous and homicidal than US Citizens. If your gun fatality rate were as high, would you still be supporting unregulated gun ownership?

You obviously have zero understanding of our laws to call what I support “unregulated”.
Please refer to my post above this


Until 1996 full auto were legal here. Number of shootings? Zero. The guns aren’t what make us different than the US and to suggest it is is blissful ignorance

[Joe (SoCal)]

Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

Well, we had a thread about voting where I suggested that only those with some level
of knowledge should be allowed to vote. This thread is a good demonstration as to why.

Good thing you can’t vote in OUR elections.

I’m gonna go fly my drone this afternoon

[Peerie Maa]

Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

You obviously have zero understanding of our laws to call what I support “unregulated”.
Please refer to my post above this


Until 1996 full auto were legal here. Number of shootings? Zero. The guns aren’t what make us different than the US and to suggest it is is blissful ignorance

This thread is about US laws. I was not aware that you had emigrated.

"Guns don't kill people, people (with guns) kill people".
If the people cannot be trusted with guns, remove the guns that kill people. That in effect is what we did after Dunblane and Hungerford.