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  • Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

    Originally posted by CK 17
    a well thought out gun ban north of the border, more doing nothing south of the border. I’ll be eagerly watching the results of this experiment

    Won’t work specifically because it’s not well thought out.

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    • Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

      Originally posted by McMike
      It stands to reason that if the left is "bold" enough to scream and yell about gun control, they'd scream and yell about something that most Americans care about and arguably will save more lives.
      Wasn't there a recent news story to the effect that something like six figures worth of lives per year are lost to direct effects of alcohol?
      Intervention there might save more lives.

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      • Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

        Originally posted by David W Pratt
        Wasn't there a recent news story to the effect that something like six figures worth of lives per year are lost to direct effects of alcohol?
        Intervention there might save more lives.
        Prohibition coupled with a semi-auto ban covered by a single piece of legislation. I like it. If only they'd done that before the midterms. Dems woulda kept the house for sure. Edited to add: But as long as they're going after both your guns and your booze they may as well throw in smokes and high fructose snacks and beverages.
        Last edited by JimD; 11-27-2022, 07:18 PM.
        There is no rational, logical, or physical description of how free will could exist. It therefore makes no sense to praise or condemn anyone on the grounds they are a free willed self that made one choice but could have chosen something else. There is no evidence that such a situation is possible in our Universe. Demonstrate otherwise and I will be thrilled.

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        • Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

          I’d rather fight for universal health care. On the gun control side of things focusing on restricting types of guns is kinda too late. Instead focus on making gun ownership like driving a car. Eff the dumbass 2 nd fundamentalists and their quasi religious delusions. You want to use or own a killing device then get tested,licensed and pay insurance. Moreso for pistols than long guns and sure, eventually phase out semi autos and restrict magazine size but the culture of America is steeped in fantasy violence without consequences. Our CMIC being a prime example.

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          • Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

            Originally posted by David W Pratt
            Wasn't there a recent news story to the effect that something like six figures worth of lives per year are lost to direct effects of alcohol?
            Intervention there might save more lives.
            I suspect there are a lot more lives to be saved if we pass universal healthcare that includes dental, vision, and mental. If people could get proper intervention in hard times, imagine the amount of stress that can be mitigated, and therefor, less self-medicating and far fewer gun deaths I suspect. And for the record, I'm not advocating mental healthcare as a diversion from good gun control measures.
            In the US this perverted idea of “blood and soil” over “constitutional principles” is the most radical and anti-democratic and anti-Conservative idea I have heard in my lifetime.

            ~C. Ross

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            • Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

              Originally posted by JimD
              I'm not sure I could swing a hammer fast enough and feel more comfortable with a length of hardwood that I can use the wrist in a that sort of snapping, whipping motion, whereas the weight of a hammer would require more of a (slower) arm swing. As you might imagine I am not a very big strong guy. As for the bear spray, for sure one would want to use it very judiciously indoors. I certainly wouldn't empty the can in my living room or bedroom. Edited to add: My wife just has to sprinkle a little cayenne into a hot dish on the stove and I'm coughing and gasping. So I hear ya.
              It won't hurt for you to try in your garage, just one quick squirt, stand there and try to breath normally . . . for as long as you can. It's not stuff to be messed with.
              In the US this perverted idea of “blood and soil” over “constitutional principles” is the most radical and anti-democratic and anti-Conservative idea I have heard in my lifetime.

              ~C. Ross

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              • Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

                I'd love to see universal health care. Health care, not insurance industry help. Since the Affordable Care Act was passed, health care costs have risen, and US life expectancy has declined.

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                • Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

                  Originally posted by David W Pratt
                  I'd love to see universal health care. Health care, not insurance industry help. Since the Affordable Care Act was passed, health care costs have risen, and US life expectancy has declined.
                  I'm paying $900/month for the "silver" plan.... With an $8000 max deductible and then co-insurance. . .
                  In the US this perverted idea of “blood and soil” over “constitutional principles” is the most radical and anti-democratic and anti-Conservative idea I have heard in my lifetime.

                  ~C. Ross

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                  • Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

                    Originally posted by McMike
                    I'm paying $900/month for the "silver" plan.... With an $8000 max deductible and then co-insurance. . .
                    how much would you consider a fair amount to personally pay in taxes each month for universal health care for yourself plus your fellow citizens?
                    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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                    • Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

                      Originally posted by Paul Pless
                      how much would you consider a fair amount to personally pay in taxes each month for universal health care for yourself plus your fellow citizens?
                      Considering the rest of the developed world pays about a third to half that with little deductible . . . That.
                      In the US this perverted idea of “blood and soil” over “constitutional principles” is the most radical and anti-democratic and anti-Conservative idea I have heard in my lifetime.

                      ~C. Ross

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                      • Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

                        Australia confiscated 650,000 guns. Murders and suicides plummeted.


                        In the wake of the killing in Uvalde, here’s what America can learn from Australia’s response to tragedy.
                        Tuesday’s shooting in Uvalde, Texas, has already kicked off another national debate about gun control. It is worth considering, as one piece of evidence about what policies do and do not work, the experience of Australia in the late 1990s.
                        Between October 1996 and September 1997, Australia responded to its own gun violence problem with a solution that was both straightforward and severe: It collected roughly 650,000 privately held guns. It was one of the largest mandatory gun buyback programs in recent history.
                        And there’s decent reason to think it worked. That does not mean that something even remotely similar would work in the US — they are, needless to say, different countries — but it is worth at least looking at Australia’s experience.

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                        • Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

                          Roughly 400 million guns are in civilian hands in the USA. Roughly 20 million are "AR" type guns. 650,000 is peanuts. If you were gong to give an average of $500 per gun for buybacks, that would be $200 billion. And it's written into our constitution for which it'll take 38 states to vote to ratify a change. It'll never happen.
                          In the US this perverted idea of “blood and soil” over “constitutional principles” is the most radical and anti-democratic and anti-Conservative idea I have heard in my lifetime.

                          ~C. Ross

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                          • Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

                            Originally posted by sonofswen
                            Australia confiscated 650,000 guns. Murders and suicides plummeted.

                            plummeted?

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                            Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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                            • Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

                              Originally posted by McMike
                              It won't hurt for you to try in your garage, just one quick squirt, stand there and try to breath normally . . . for as long as you can. It's not stuff to be messed with.
                              I survived Nuke/Bio/Chem warfare training so I think I know enough to be careful with bear spray, even without a gas mask. But thanks for the advice. It's always welcome.
                              There is no rational, logical, or physical description of how free will could exist. It therefore makes no sense to praise or condemn anyone on the grounds they are a free willed self that made one choice but could have chosen something else. There is no evidence that such a situation is possible in our Universe. Demonstrate otherwise and I will be thrilled.

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                              • Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

                                My brother-in-law sat down in his driveway about 6 months ago and blew his brains out.

                                He had issues, but he might be alive today if suicide had been just a little bit more difficult.
                                "Where you live in the world should not determine whether you live in the world." - Bono

                                "Live in such a way that you would not be ashamed to sell your parrot to the town gossip." - Will Rogers

                                "Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." - Groucho Marx

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