Biden going after semi-automatics?

[John Smith]

Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

It stands to reason that if the left is "bold" enough to scream and yell about gun control, they'd scream and yell about something that most Americans care about and arguably will save more lives.

You are aware of how congress works, no?

[CWSmith]

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Maybe '****ty parenting' comes from the family needing several jobs to make ends meet. Maybe constant worries about money contribute to bad parents. Any WANT to be a bad parent?

Then don't have kids.

Oh come on! People deserve to make a living wage when they work a job and not need to work 2 and 3 jobs to support their families. Their communities suffer. The teachers in their schools don't get the support at home that is needed for successful education, and the cycle continues.

[Decourcy]

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I doubt anything that fails to address guns already bought will have much impact.

That is something that I don’t think can be addressed. I’ve already discussed low compliance rates in other countries like here and NZ to “buybacks”. I’d expect the US to only have a fraction of those rates.

[L.W. Baxter]

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Hillary Clinton was that hot culture war. "Anybody but Hillary" was the battle cry. And I agree, the anti-gun crowed is pandering, along with the college loan forgiveness crowd. A huge portion of this country does want universal healthcare. You have to wonder why the Democrats are mum on it. Now, nothing will happen, we'll stay stagnate for another generation.

yeah, and "never trump" was another battle cry. i never said we don't have to fight battles. my point is that the progressive left has chosen the wrong ones. tragically wrong.

funny you mention hillary and universal healthcare. seeing as how she is the only major political figure to ever really go to bat for it. she presented a workable plan in 1993. so good that the republicans principally feared it because it would work too well, and democrats would get credit from the middle class and working poor. look it up.

so they turned their smear machine into high gear. and their smearing echoes thirty years later in the distorted perception of hrc and her "likability", her "electability". what they did worked, in other words, and not just on the dittoheads.

[McMike]

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Oh come on! People deserve to make a living wage when they work a job and not need to work 2 and 3 jobs to support their families. Their communities suffer. The teachers in their schools don't get the support at home that is needed for successful education, and the cycle continues.

Deserve? Sure. But they're not willing to fight for it. More and more Millennials and Gen Z are forgoing having children because they can't afford them. The billionaires need them to keep having kids to grow the economy. No kids, no economic growth. Its a bi-product I've been talking about for some time now. I saw how victimized my parents and my friends parents were raising us and they had it good compared to now. I got snipped when I was 25, I'm telling all the young people I know to do the same. Many are considering it.

[McMike]

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yeah, and "never trump" was another battle cry. i never said we don't have to fight battles. my point is that the progressive left has chosen the wrong ones. tragically wrong.

funny you mention hillary and universal healthcare. seeing as how she is the only major political figure to ever really go to bat for it. she presented a workable plan in 1993. so good that the republicans principally feared it because it would work too well, and democrats would get credit from the middle class and working poor. look it up.

so they turned their smear machine into high gear. and their smearing echoes thirty years later in the distorted perception of hrc and her "likability", her "electability". what they did worked, in other words, and not just on the dittoheads.

Yup, and 30 years later, nothing . . . some plan . . . was just smoke and mirrors from my point of view. The country is aching for reform . . . Trump was their last chance since Obama failed them. I'm looking forward to the next iteration of the Tea Party/MAGA, should be fun.

[John Smith]

Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

That is something that I don’t think can be addressed. I’ve already discussed low compliance rates in other countries like here and NZ to “buybacks”. I’d expect the US to only have a fraction of those rates.

Buy back needs patients. Assuming, for example, I had guns and no desire to sell them back. Question becomes what my heirs would do with them, which may be some years down the road.

[John Smith]

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yeah, and "never trump" was another battle cry. i never said we don't have to fight battles. my point is that the progressive left has chosen the wrong ones. tragically wrong.

funny you mention hillary and universal healthcare. seeing as how she is the only major political figure to ever really go to bat for it. she presented a workable plan in 1993. so good that the republicans principally feared it because it would work too well, and democrats would get credit from the middle class and working poor. look it up.

so they turned their smear machine into high gear. and their smearing echoes thirty years later in the distorted perception of hrc and her "likability", her "electability". what they did worked, in other words, and not just on the dittoheads.

The guy who drove the coffee truck to us at 4 AM ish always had Limbaugh on the radio. He was convinced he'd suffer greatly if Hillary's plan passed. I wrote her. I got a reply with a copy of the synopsis of her proposal.

Only change he would see if it passed would be to buy the same insurance he has for a lower price.

[John Smith]

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Yup, and 30 years later, nothing . . . some plan . . . was just smoke and mirrors from my point of view. The country is aching for reform . . . Trump was their last chance since Obama failed them. I'm looking forward to the next iteration of the Tea Party/MAGA, should be fun.

You just lost me.

The whole republican spin was to repeal and replace the ACA. Why was it necessary to repeal it to replace it? Was there a vote to repeal anything before the ACA passed?

If the GOP actually had a new healthcare bill, all that was needed was passing that bill, and their new system would automatically replace the ACA.

[McMike]

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You just lost me.

The whole republican spin was to repeal and replace the ACA. Why was it necessary to repeal it to replace it? Was there a vote to repeal anything before the ACA passed?

If the GOP actually had a new healthcare bill, all that was needed was passing that bill, and their new system would automatically replace the ACA.

Yup, they played the stupid, just like the Democrats did . . . we're all stupid, because we keep falling for the same sh17.

[Decourcy]

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Buy back needs patients. Assuming, for example, I had guns and no desire to sell them back. Question becomes what my heirs would do with them, which may be some years down the road.

Well, on practice what happens is that opinions and feelings harden. Those are usually carried down the generations. So I’d expect the same guns to be there 50 years down the road in the same families

[L.W. Baxter]

Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

Yup, and 30 years later, nothing . . . some plan . . . was just smoke and mirrors from my point of view. The country is aching for reform . . . Trump was their last chance since Obama failed them. I'm looking forward to the next iteration of the Tea Party/MAGA, should be fun.

it was a real plan, mike, with real provisions that would have really worked. hillary has always had a path forward, a real path, through the people with the votes and the power, for any idea she championed.

remember the super delegates? that is your path.

the smoke and mirrors has been on the populist left, where ideas abound, but nobody does the work to bring them to fruition. the student debt debacle being a tidy illustration. ideology driving proclamations with no logic, no form, no champion. oregon's gun control ballot measure creates a whole new burden of bureaucracy for our state police--much of it redundant with existing federal law!--with a wave of the hand. no work done. smoke and mirrors.

[McMike]

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it was a real plan, mike, with real provisions that would have really worked. hillary has always had a path forward, a real path, through the people with the votes and the power, for any idea she championed.

remember the super delegates? that is your path.

the smoke and mirrors has been on the populist left, where ideas abound, but nobody does the work to bring them to fruition. the student debt debacle being a tidy illustration. ideology driving proclamations with no logic, no form, no champion. oregon's gun control ballot measure creates a whole new burden of bureaucracy for our state police--much of it redundant with existing federal law!--with a wave of the hand. no work done. smoke and mirrors.

Really. Then why didn't even receive a floor vote though Democrats had majorities in both the house and senate? And then she leaned into the ACA in 16, forgoing "universal Healthcare". When the rubber met the road, she veered off. It's clear the Democrats are against it and they bought another decade with the battle against MAGA. She gives their paper tiger credibility. It's all bullsh17.

[JimD]

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Any kind of defensive spray in an enclosed area is a really bad idea, you will always get yourself. You can purchase the gel stuff, which is a bit better, but I'd stick with a good ol claw hammer, short, so it's easy to swing in a hall way, and no one, and I mean no one will enjoy getting even a glancing blow from one. At work, we have a rowdy bunch, we don't allow guns in house but each of the office workers has a gel pepper spray at their desk. We've had two cases of workplace violence, more than likely a few we don't know about, and it's nice to have an option other than letting them fight it out.

I'm not sure I could swing a hammer fast enough and feel more comfortable with a length of hardwood that I can use the wrist in a that sort of snapping, whipping motion, whereas the weight of a hammer would require more of a (slower) arm swing. As you might imagine I am not a very big strong guy. As for the bear spray, for sure one would want to use it very judiciously indoors. I certainly wouldn't empty the can in my living room or bedroom. Edited to add: My wife just has to sprinkle a little cayenne into a hot dish on the stove and I'm coughing and gasping. So I hear ya.

[CK 17]

Re: Biden going after semi-automatics?

FYI Paul, added to the list on the assault rifle ban coming down the pipe in Canada are such guns as the SKS, the Garand, and in fact a number of hunting rifles including some ruger no1’s and wetherby’s etc.

Liberals have interesting definitions as well

a well thought out gun ban north of the border, more doing nothing south of the border. I’ll be eagerly watching the results of this experiment