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  • Re: EV’s are becoming mainstream

    Originally posted by LeeG
    Bipedalism?!
    Sounds more like Extra Vehicular .

    Pete
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    • Re: EV’s are becoming mainstream

      Originally posted by Paul Pless
      ah. . . all is right in the world

      the woodenboat forum is officially back to normal now. . .
      Nope - no superyacht threads or pics of Nova Scotia.
      "If it ain't broke, you're not trying." - Red Green

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      • Re: EV’s are becoming mainstream

        Originally posted by Nicholas Carey
        You can rebuild/repair an engine. Not so much with lithium batteries. They're pretty much bin-and-replace only.
        sorry to tell you, no. You can rebuild a Tesla Battery pack. This is what is inside them:

        tesla1.jpg
        Tesla3.jpg
        Tesla2.jpg

        You can open them up, test for bad cells, and replace them.
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        -Dalai Lama

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        • Re: EV’s are becoming mainstream

          Originally posted by LeeG
          Bipedalism?!
          Nope, I sold my bicycle before moving to Poland.

          Tom
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          • Re: EV’s are becoming mainstream

            ​Disposable EV's??

            Scratched EV battery? Your insurer may have to junk the whole car



            For many electric vehicles, there is no way to repair or assess even slightly damaged battery packs after accidents, forcing insurance companies to write off cars with few miles - leading to higher premiums and undercutting gains from going electric.
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            • Re: EV’s are becoming mainstream

              "We're buying electric cars for sustainability reasons," said Matthew Avery, research director at automotive risk intelligence company Thatcham Research. "But an EV isn't very sustainable if you've got to throw the battery away after a minor collision."
              Wrong, people are buying EVs so as to continue the same transportation habits enabled by fossil oil but with decreased local pollution. The decreased total GHG benefits only come after a few years of high mileage driving and there is nothing sustainable about millions of 4000lb vehicles going 15k miles/year. If one was to honestly address GHG emittions or increased efficiency from remaining oil supply fuel would cost a lot more and people would drive a lot less. Period. Expensive EVs with supercar acceleration are expressions of an economy that can leverage debt not an example of a civilization transitioning to “sustainability”.
              Humans don’t do sustainability.
              Last edited by LeeG; 03-20-2023, 02:49 PM.

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              • Re: EV’s are becoming mainstream

                Originally posted by LeeG
                Wrong, people are buying EVs so as to continue the same transportation habits enabled by fossil oil but with decreased local pollution.
                Not much anybody can do about in the short term. I do not know about where you live, Lee, but until places start really upping the ante public transportation, cars are the only way to go.

                I live 12 miles from work. On a good day, I can make it to work in 20 minutes. The one time my car was in the shop, I took the bus. The bus was actually three buses with waiting time in between, so it took over an hour. I could ride my bicycle, but of the 5 bridges that take me from the mainland to Atlantic City, two are verboten to bicycles, one sees speeds approaching 80mph with very little shoulder (speed limit is 50, but nobody does that) and no shoulder at all on the bridge into AC, the other has slower speeds, but again, very little shoulder. The only safe bridge is on the far end of the island, requiring me to ride 5 miles out of my way, then to come almost 20 back, turning my 12 mile commute into a 25 mile one.
                "If you think you are too small to make a difference, try sleeping with a mosquito"

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                • Re: EV’s are becoming mainstream

                  Originally posted by WI-Tom
                  Originally posted by LeeG
                  Bipedalism?!
                  Nope, I sold my bicycle before moving to Poland.

                  Tom
                  you surprise me, Tom!

                  Bipedalism is a form of terrestrial locomotion where a tetrapod moves by means of its two rear limbs or legs. An animal or machine that usually moves in a bipedal manner is known as a biped, meaning 'two feet'. Types of bipedal movement include walking or running and hopping. Wikipedia

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                  • Re: EV’s are becoming mainstream

                    Originally posted by Art Haberland
                    Not much anybody can do about in the short term. I do not know about where you live, Lee, but until places start really upping the ante public transportation, cars are the only way to go.

                    I live 12 miles from work. On a good day, I can make it to work in 20 minutes. The one time my car was in the shop, I took the bus. The bus was actually three buses with waiting time in between, so it took over an hour. I could ride my bicycle, but of the 5 bridges that take me from the mainland to Atlantic City, two are verboten to bicycles, one sees speeds approaching 80mph with very little shoulder (speed limit is 50, but nobody does that) and no shoulder at all on the bridge into AC, the other has slower speeds, but again, very little shoulder. The only safe bridge is on the far end of the island, requiring me to ride 5 miles out of my way, then to come almost 20 back, turning my 12 mile commute into a 25 mile one.
                    My issue is the way we do cars, EVs included, not that there are cars. EVs are also fossil fuel vehicles in that everything that goes into building them comes from fossil fuel work.

                    I live 12 miles from town and often drive my 4600 lb pickup to town and back just to have a cup of coffee and bagel. $4-$5 of gas for $8 of cappucino and bagel w cream cheese. If gas was $7/gal I’d drive less often and go to McDonalds for cheap coffee and hang w folks my age. Pretty sure if gas was $7/gal the fancy coffee shop and my truck would be gone and I’d be on the ebike more.

                    Met someone whose grandmother grew up out our way and she didn’t get to town until she was 14. From her horse and buggy childhood to now the world has used up about half the proven reserves of oil. Don’t think anyone will be driving 4600lb vehicles for coffee in 130 yrs. A lot fewer will have that option in ten years. Maybe Russia, Iran, Iraq and Venezuela will come to the rescue when US Permian declines but I wouldn’t bet on it.
                    Last edited by LeeG; 03-22-2023, 11:20 AM.

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                    • Re: EV’s are becoming mainstream

                      I'm so old I remember when the issue was running out of gas, not using too much of it.

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                      • Re: EV’s are becoming mainstream

                        Lee, living in SoCal car culture for the past 7 years ( fook it's been 7 fooking years ) Anyway for local jaunts when its nice out which is 80% of the time I use my very fuel efficient Vespa. If I didn't have the Vespa and we had more room I would totally get an e-bike which we enjoyed all over Tuscany, and are very popular here. On longer drives or when it's bad weather like this past month I use the Tesla. I ride my traditional bicycle for exercise not commuting.
                        Last edited by Joe (SoCal); 03-22-2023, 11:59 AM.
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                        • Re: EV’s are becoming mainstream

                          Originally posted by LeeG

                          I live 12 miles from town and often drive my 4600 lb pickup to town and back just to have a cup of coffee and bagel. $4-$5 of gas for $8 of cappucino and bagel w cream cheese. If gas was $7/gal I’d drive less often and go to McDonalds for cheap coffee and hang w folks my age. Pretty sure if gas was $7/gal the fancy coffee shop and my truck would be gone and I’d be on the ebike more.
                          While I do have almost 5000 pound vehicle (My landy) and a sub 2400 pound one (my abarth) I rarely drive unless it is for an express purpose. Going for a cup of coffee is not it, unless I am also doing food shopping, going to the hardware store, or something of that nature. At one time I drove for pleasure, now I find myself pulling into one of the commercial areas, parking, and walking to each store and back. The closest I come to driving for pleasure is towing a boat or carrying a kayak.

                          And work, I obviously drive there.
                          "If you think you are too small to make a difference, try sleeping with a mosquito"

                          -Dalai Lama

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                          • Re: EV’s are becoming mainstream

                            Originally posted by LeeG
                            Wrong, people are buying EVs so as to continue the same transportation habits enabled by fossil oil but with decreased local pollution.

                            Humans don’t do sustainability.
                            A lot of people drive their vehicles to work or to work. They work so they can live. Changing that would cause a good number of people immediate hardship.

                            I am willing to drive 5000 miles each year just to take a couple day hikes. I would not like to give that up. At least not until others give up at least that much.
                            Life is complex.

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                            • Re: EV’s are becoming mainstream

                              Originally posted by Too Little Time
                              A lot of people drive their vehicles to work or to work. They work so they can live. Changing that would cause a good number of people immediate hardship.

                              I am willing to drive 5000 miles each year just to take a couple day hikes. I would not like to give that up. At least not until others give up at least that much.
                              change is hard and not fair, it just is. 70 yrs ago 5000miles/yr was a normal average for miles driven.

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                              • Re: EV’s are becoming mainstream

                                Originally posted by LeeG
                                change is hard and not fair, it just is. 70 yrs ago 5000miles/yr was a normal average for miles driven.
                                In just over a year I've put 23,000 miles on my Tesla. It's charging at my apartment complex as I write this in about 3 hrs it will be 80% charged and cost me less than $9. I like to charge in the afternoon while I'm working from home because there is always a charging spot open and I can park it back in our garage to use tomorrow. I probably charge it every 2-3 days. Honestly it's become so routine I don't even think about it anymore.
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