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  • #31
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    The number of refugees has already exceeded one million. Half of them came to Poland, but it's Moldova that is under most stress when comparing to country size. Both states are starting to have issues finding/creating accommodation fast enough, even though preparations have started weeks before the murderers struck. It's literally freezing outside, Ukrainians can't be sleeping in tents the way things were organised in the Middle East. It was estimated that total number of refugees should reach between 1 and 5 million. The first million hit in a week. The first response is wonderful, long term support capabilities are still not fully known.
    The refugees can travel by train for free in (chronologically) Czechia, Slovakia, Moldova, Hungary, Romania, Poland and Germany. We've also cleaned and reactivated an abandoned train line leading to a smaller border crossing this week. Points of first contact in Poland are not having supply issues right now. Aid inside Ukraine is still flowing, unfortunately Kiev and Kharkov are cut off. Most of aid flows through various sized trucks, Czechia has also organised a passenger-cargo train sending help in one way and collecting people in the other. Sooner or later word "relocation" will need to be discussed. UK offers 200k places, Sweden on the other hand said they did enough in 2015.
    Refugee help coordination points are now, at least here, crystallized. We're transforming from a self created swarm to centralized, reputable, recognizable points. In case of Poznań, the number seems to have solidified on closely cooperating three. Most of the others still function, but no longer arrange everything separately. Good, it will prevent information chaos and should improve overall efficiency.
    Ukrainians are also eligible to free COVID tests and free vaccines. I've also heard of several kids that are already admitted to primary schools. Ukrainian refugees can legally stay in Poland no questions asked, however those that can document arriving Feb 24th onward will be eligible to social programs. This includes 100€ aid for each kid in the family (200€ if kid is under 2). The ministry is also preparing changes in work laws, facilitating Ukrainians to enter the legal workforce. Since 2014 a lot of them migrated to Poland, estimates vary between 200k and 1500k. Estimates are very rough since many couldn't/wouldn't work legally. Changing this benefits everyone. We also see that Ukrainians do indeed feel themselves okay in Poland, as few migrate further west. The challenge is to absorb the sudden influx and support it until Putin loses or they get on own feet.
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    • #32
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      Great update, good info. Thanks..

      Will check in with you soon.

      M

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      • #33
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        Travel well, Martin. Thanks for being You.

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        • #34
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          Best of luck and safe travels. Look forward to hearing about your journey.
          Without friends none of this is possible.

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          • #35
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            Alles Gute, Martin, sei vorsichtig und halte die Ohren steif.

            Today we brought matresses, blankets and sleeping bags to an small organisation called Ukraine-Hilfe which was asking for such things to bring it into Ukraine. We made a monetary donation last week.
            Last edited by heimfried; 03-03-2022, 02:13 PM. Reason: typo
            Gruß, Günter

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            • #36
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              Hooray for the people of Poland as well.

              BRZEGI DOLNE, Poland — The tracks were first laid by the Austro-Hungarian empire a century and a half ago, linking Vienna with Lviv. But disuse and the grinding gears of time forced them out of service 12 years ago.

              Over the past three days, Polish volunteers working along with the national railways department have restored them as the country frantically seeks new humanitarian corridors to facilitate the arrival of hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian refugees . . .

              The effort is part of a tidal wave of support Poles are offering their Ukrainian neighbors, with whom they share a tumultuous history marked by Russian aggression . . .

              “I would go kill Putin myself,” said Piotr Gubala, 35, a brawny construction worker, “but we’ll each do our own part to help Ukraine.”

              His and other teams have worked along dozens of miles of track from sunup to sundown over the past three days, repairing steel ties and shoveling dirt off the tracks, and they said they didn’t expect to be paid . . .

              The refurbished tracks run through the Carpathians, an arc of wooded hills dotted with ski resorts that runs from Poland through Ukraine to Romania.
              Do not speak of "our institutions" unless you make them yours by acting on their behalf.

              Timothy Snyder, On Tyranny (2017)​

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              • #37
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                Cargo delivered.

                Tomorrow is another day. I'm finding out what is needed, people here seem highly organised amidst the chaos.

                I'm whacked, but have a warm safe bed for the night. Better than most.

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                • #38
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                  Happy to hear that.

                  Let me know if highway tickets are to be adjusted.
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                  • #39
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                    Thanks, will do.

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                    • #40
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                      I just gave to CARE Ukranian Relief. They’re dedicated to get immediate supplies, money, medical and psychiatric care to 4 million people, specifically women with children, the disabled and elderly.
                      “Come, come, my conservative friend, wipe the dew off your spectacles and see the world is moving" - Elizabeth Cady Stanton

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                      • #41
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                        Please send live info of hostile action, brief messages to my number. (SMS).

                        +49 1522 375 2484

                        Thanks.

                        Edit. I am mostly interested in action affecting Western Ukraine. I will find out more today, but it can be that I will be used to transport disabled and elderly from border towns inside Ukraine or nearby inside Poland.

                        Fast info sent direct to me can be very useful.

                        Thank you.

                        M
                        Last edited by lupussonic; 03-04-2022, 12:10 AM.

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                        • #42
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                          Stay safe, Martin. I wish I could be there helping, too.

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                          • #43
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                            https://mobile.twitter.com/i/status/1499669383672643584

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                            • #44
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                              Martin - I am awed and stuck by your efforts. If i was closer, I would provide some direct assistance to you and your actions in this. Be wise, smart, rested and keep safe. The many need to your help for the long days and roads ahead.
                              Without friends none of this is possible.

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                              • #45
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                                This link isn’t working for me. Anyone else?

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