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  • #16
    Re: joe will love it, david g's head will explode

    re: 'just showing off'

    Nope... it's not.

    Originally posted by Keith Wilson
    No. Or at least most of them have a better balance of showing off and respect for the laws of physics.

    OTOH, Nakashima could probably make it work. More mortals, not so much.
    if it's not necessary for life, and it isn't, it's essentially showing off.

    and there's nothing wrong with that.


    and agreed on mere mortals.

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    • #17
      Re: joe will love it, david g's head will explode

      Originally posted by Durnik
      re: 'just showing off' - if it's not necessary for life, and it isn't, it's essentially showing off. And there's nothing wrong with that.
      Nothing wrong with showing off; I do it myself often enough. But I said 'just showing off', meaning not much other than showing off. All art or craft that isn't purely decorative has to balance aesthetics and function. Getting only function isn't hard; comfortable ugly chairs are common enough. Getting beauty without it working very well isn't all that hard either, if one is talented; examples are all too common. If somebody's really good, they can get both without compromising either.

      Here you go; as comfortable a chair as you'll ever find, very pretty IMHO, and you'll be able to pass it on to your great-grandchildren. Breaking it would require at least an axe, probably a chainsaw. But, as they've said for a long time, 'de gustibus non disputandum'.

      Last edited by Keith Wilson; 04-29-2021, 03:41 PM.
      "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations,
      for nature cannot be fooled."

      Richard Feynman

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      • #18
        Re: joe will love it, david g's head will explode

        $220 in 1979 for a Conoid chair.

        the legs are long and flat to slide across carpet, function

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        • #19
          Re: joe will love it, david g's head will explode

          Looking at the OP I’m willing to bet the exorbitant cost of that chair for anyone who thinks they are too big and will break it. I’ve been to Nakashima museum and I challenge any fat ass to break any of his chairs.

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          • #20
            Re: joe will love it, david g's head will explode

            Originally posted by Joe (SoCal)
            I challenge any fat ass to break any of his chairs.
            No way! You break it you buy it!
            Skip

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            • #21
              Re: joe will love it, david g's head will explode

              Originally posted by Joe (SoCal)
              Looking at the OP I’m willing to bet the exorbitant cost of that chair for anyone who thinks they are too big and will break it. I’ve been to Nakashima museum and I challenge any fat ass to break any of his chairs.
              Not having sat in one, I'll take your word for how stout they feel. I like Nakashima - a lot of his stuff. And that chair is fun. Always reminds me of a robot.

              In terms of strength, and longevity, you may be right. Or not. The geometry looks right. It's the physics that are the issue. That's an impressive lever arm acting on not much cantilever support. Maybe he solved that issue. Maybe it's more for show than go. Maybe he never meant it to be around for several generations. Not all 'art furniture', as you know, is meant to last like Keith's example.

              Would you put a set of them - at any price - in the play room inhabited by a bunch of teenage boys ? Maybe not. At those prices? Nope.
              David G
              Harbor Woodworks
              https://www.facebook.com/HarborWoodworks/

              "It was a Sunday morning and Goddard gave thanks that there were still places where one could worship in temples not made by human hands." -- L. F. Herreshoff (The Compleat Cruiser)

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              • #22
                Re: joe will love it, david g's head will explode

                It'll probably be alright when they get round to finishing it.I've had to repair quite enough conventional chairs to be sceptical about it's longevity in a centrally heated house if it saw regular use.

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                • #23
                  Re: joe will love it, david g's head will explode

                  I like it a lot, but I dont think that I'd use it to stand on to get to that high up shelf.

                  John Welsford
                  An expert is but a beginner with experience.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Joe (SoCal)
                    Looking at the OP I’m willing to bet the exorbitant cost of that chair for anyone who thinks they are too big and will break it. I’ve been to Nakashima museum and I challenge any fat ass to break any of his chairs.

                    If I can let my kids at it, it won't take more than a day to break it!

                    Frikken chainsaws with legs, kids are!

                    Kevin







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                    • #25
                      Re: joe will love it, david g's head will explode

                      Originally posted by Joe (SoCal)
                      Looking at the OP I’m willing to bet the exorbitant cost of that chair for anyone who thinks they are too big and will break it. I’ve been to Nakashima museum and I challenge any fat ass to break any of his chairs.
                      The engineering properties of walnut, combined with Nakashima's understanding of them and his ability to execute airtight joints make that chair plenty stout.

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                      • #26
                        Re: joe will love it, david g's head will explode

                        Originally posted by George Jung
                        well, I have some folks who would challenge this:

                        What? You think that's going to hold this up in the air? Sheesh

                        IMG_4990.JPG

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                        • #27
                          Re: joe will love it, david g's head will explode

                          I'm sure Mr Nakashima could built it quite strong enough, at least when it left his shop. After ten years? 20? Highly stressed wood compresses, and the stresses are greater when the joint loosens up in the winter (or the summer, in other climates) - and walnut's not that hard. That joint made by a mere mortal, not so much.
                          "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations,
                          for nature cannot be fooled."

                          Richard Feynman

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                          • #28
                            Re: joe will love it, david g's head will explode

                            Originally posted by Breakaway
                            If I can let my kids at it, it won't take more than a day to break it!

                            Frikken chainsaws with legs, kids are!

                            Kevin







                            Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
                            Love it!

                            I like the chair too.
                            "If it ain't broke, you're not trying." - Red Green

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                            • #29
                              Re: joe will love it, david g's head will explode

                              Originally posted by Keith Wilson
                              I'm sure Mr Nakashima could built it quite strong enough, at least when it left his shop. After ten years? 20? Highly stressed wood compresses, and the stresses are greater when the joint loosens up in the winter (or the summer, in other climates) - and walnut's not that hard. That joint made by a mere mortal, not so much.
                              It’s a 60 year old design now.

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                              • #30
                                Re: joe will love it, david g's head will explode

                                Originally posted by Keith Wilson
                                Nothing wrong with showing off; I do it myself often enough. But I said 'just showing off', meaning not much other than showing off. All art or craft that isn't purely decorative has to balance aesthetics and function. Getting only function isn't hard; comfortable ugly chairs are common enough. Getting beauty without it working very well isn't all that hard either, if one is talented; examples are all too common. If somebody's really good, they can get both without compromising either.

                                Here you go; as comfortable a chair as you'll ever find, very pretty IMHO, and you'll be able to pass it on to your great-grandchildren. Breaking it would require at least an axe, probably a chainsaw. But, as they've said for a long time, 'de gustibus non disputandum'.

                                Re: Just.. yeah, you did.. and my off the cuff was meant at least partly in jest, but then David had to jump in and I got lazy on Android & responded to both of youse..

                                That easy chair does look good.. but I can't play a guitar in it.. & no way I can tip it, soo.. 0-:

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