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  • Re: More Republican Party Fracturing

    Originally posted by David G
    Yes, and his further comments state that he feels he can be useful in other ways to combat Trumpism (presumably without the visibility that places his family in danger).

    Remarkable, innit. "... that places his family in danger.")

    From political opponents.

    Is this the U.S.? Feels more and more like a race to compete with the worst 3rdWorld FailedState in our levels of dysfunction. Acton Dictum writ large.
    Banana Republicans.
    On the trailing edge of technology.

    https://www.amazon.com/Outlaw-John-L.../dp/B07LC6Y934

    http://www.scribd.com/johnmwatkins/documents

    http://booksellersvsbestsellers.blogspot.com/

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    • Re: More Republican Party Fracturing

      Originally posted by johnw
      Banana Republicans.
      Ayup...
      David G
      Harbor Woodworks
      https://www.facebook.com/HarborWoodworks/

      "It was a Sunday morning and Goddard gave thanks that there were still places where one could worship in temples not made by human hands." -- L. F. Herreshoff (The Compleat Cruiser)

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      • Re: More Republican Party Fracturing

        More on the topic --

        The GOP’s Young Stars Don’t Want to Represent Trump’s Party

        Anthony Gonzales is the latest to decide it’s not worth it to be a Republican opposed to Trump—who cost the GOP the White House, Senate and House but kept his grip on the base.
        David G
        Harbor Woodworks
        https://www.facebook.com/HarborWoodworks/

        "It was a Sunday morning and Goddard gave thanks that there were still places where one could worship in temples not made by human hands." -- L. F. Herreshoff (The Compleat Cruiser)

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        • Re: More Republican Party Fracturing

          Paywall, but I got the gist of it.
          Found it elsewhere

          "Maybe normal Republicans will find their spines if Trump takes them down to defeat in 2022 and they realize they defeated themselves by giving over their party to a madman who would have no power to destroy except that which they’ve ceded him."

          Normal Republicans? donald took over the party in 2016 and they've just noticed? The GOP hasn't existed except in name since the convention.
          Last edited by skuthorp; 09-18-2021, 01:39 AM.

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          • Re: More Republican Party Fracturing

            I still am not seeing any fracturing. Sloughing off yes, and a few attempts like the Lincoln Project, but where are the "responsible" Republicans who should be condemning Trump & the Jan. 6th crowd? Silence.

            Trump seems to still be relevant - why if so many Reps don't support him?
            "If it ain't broke, you're not trying." - Red Green

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            • Re: More Republican Party Fracturing

              Silence? No. The ostensible “good” Republicans are leaning in to Trumpism. Elise Stefanik is fundraising off replacement theory.

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              • Re: More Republican Party Fracturing

                A lot of what happens in '22 depends directly on how many people are prevented from voting.

                70% of registered Republicans believe the election was stolen. That suggests 30% do not believe that.

                Theoretically, that 30% may be convinced to vote for the democrats.

                It also depends on the democrats passing something substantial that people will like.
                "Banning books in spite of the 1st amendment, but refusing to regulate guns in spite of "well regulated militia' being in the 2nd amendment makes no sense. Can't think of anyone ever shot by a book

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                • Re: More Republican Party Fracturing

                  More thoughts on the Gonzalez decision --

                  Opinion | Why Sane Republicans Are Purging Themselves

                  It looks like they’re giving up, but for politicians like Anthony Gonzalez, a party run by Trump is not worth fighting for.
                  David G
                  Harbor Woodworks
                  https://www.facebook.com/HarborWoodworks/

                  "It was a Sunday morning and Goddard gave thanks that there were still places where one could worship in temples not made by human hands." -- L. F. Herreshoff (The Compleat Cruiser)

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                  • Re: More Republican Party Fracturing

                    https://www.yahoo.com/news/opinion-w...144642242.html

                    The GOP has not exsisted since 2016 when donald won a hostile takeover, and was allowed to consolidate because of perceived political advantage. I bet they all thought "He's a klutz, we'll be able to conrrol his worst excesses". Sounds like I've heard that presumption before.
                    So now you are well on the way to having an extreme RW party masquerading under the old Republican tag. Not a good development regarding the unity of the nation which was already under stress.
                    I suppose if a third party, a Conservative party was to arise now might be the time to begin to work for it using those refugees from political change as a seeding. And now whither the democrats? They have a chance to be in office for a very long time if they don't, without a mainstream rival, split. Being comfortably in government is often not condusive to unity.

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                    • Re: More Republican Party Fracturing

                      Every single Republican in the House voted to default on the debt ceiling. The Senate is poised to do the same.

                      Every single one, lockstep.

                      There is no fracturing of the Republican party.
                      Steve Martinsen

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                      • Re: More Republican Party Fracturing

                        Not fracturing; attrition, at least so far. The most responsible, sane (and courageous, in some cases) ones are peeling off, leaving most of the rest. It may get to 'fracturing' (one can hope), but it hasn't yet.
                        "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations,
                        for nature cannot be fooled."

                        Richard Feynman

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                        • Re: More Republican Party Fracturing

                          Meanwhile MTG is shooting Democrat Socialism

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                          • Re: More Republican Party Fracturing

                            Arizona Audit Backers Turn on Each Other After Recount Flop


                            Supporters of Republicans’ controversial “audit” of 2020 presidential election ballots have turned on each other after the partisan investigation failed to find proof of election malfeasance, with disaffected backers even circulating a fabricated rival report they claim shows interference by the “deep state.”.......


                            Among the audit report’s new detractors: Jovan Hutton Pulitzer, the controversial inventor whose supposed technology analyzing folds in ballot paper had promised, according to audit supporters, to detect some kind of voter fraud. Instead, the final audit report contained no mention of Pulitzer’s imaging technology, a change Pulitzer attributed on Twitter to “deep state” malfeasance.....


                            Right-wing media personalities disappointed by the audit have even promoted a fictitious rival report they claimed was the “real” report from audit operators Cyber Ninjas. In this telling, the fabricated “draft” report called for Biden’s win to be decertified. But while the fake report was embraced by prominent right-wing news blog The Gateway Pundit as proof that the real report released on Friday had been “watered down,” Cyber Ninjas blasted the report as a hoax.


                            The Arizona audit showed that, if anything, Joe Biden won the state by even more votes than previously realized. Cue the GOP panic.
                            David G
                            Harbor Woodworks
                            https://www.facebook.com/HarborWoodworks/

                            "It was a Sunday morning and Goddard gave thanks that there were still places where one could worship in temples not made by human hands." -- L. F. Herreshoff (The Compleat Cruiser)

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                            • Re: More Republican Party Fracturing

                              I'd like to think the facts will come to mean something.

                              Too bad I can't.
                              "Banning books in spite of the 1st amendment, but refusing to regulate guns in spite of "well regulated militia' being in the 2nd amendment makes no sense. Can't think of anyone ever shot by a book

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                              • Re: More Republican Party Fracturing

                                Originally posted by John Smith
                                I'd like to think the facts will come to mean something.

                                Too bad I can't.
                                Me too. But I've been at this long enough to know that we're very close to the end of that hope. And... even if it should come true... it'll be a while. A process. The present slide started several decades ago.
                                David G
                                Harbor Woodworks
                                https://www.facebook.com/HarborWoodworks/

                                "It was a Sunday morning and Goddard gave thanks that there were still places where one could worship in temples not made by human hands." -- L. F. Herreshoff (The Compleat Cruiser)

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