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Kristoph is agnostic, I believe. Short, sweet, provocative. Enjoy!
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Kristoff gave him an incredibly easy ride.
This is no answer, but an avoidance of the issue. None of the authors of the gospels could possibly know, so it is definitely fantasy rather than history.By contrast, the consensus among historians is that the Gospels belong to the genre of ancient biography, like the ‘Lives of Greeks and Romans’ written by Plutarch. As such, they aim to provide a historically reliable account.It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.
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The biblical evidence proves that Jesus was actually Irish. He lived with his parents till he was thirty. He spent his last night drinking with his chums. And he died believing his mother was a virgin.Comment
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Mark was written by an classically educated Greek , Mathew is a modified version of Mark, Luke played around with the first two and John changes everything around. Later, they were all modified, badly copied added to, subtracted from etc. That is the consensus of biblical scholars for many centuries, except when their jobs or lives are threatened.Comment
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God help us, C. S. Lewis and Mere Christianity! Don't get me going.
I engage with this one, my wife is going to take one look at me and say 'You were arguing on the Wooden Boat Forum again, weren't you?' Merry Christmas, everybody.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations,
for nature cannot be fooled."
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And to you and all sir, Happy holidays, however you keep them.PaulFComment
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Yes indeed!
Zoe the Wonder Girl is going to be in the church Christmas pageant this year - yeah, I know, a Unitarian Christmas pageant? What, they serve Kosher cheeseburgers afterward? But we've been doing it for 99 years. She's one of the 'multitude of the heavenly host'.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations,
for nature cannot be fooled."
Richard FeynmanComment
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I find it strange that we have a season to be jolly and, during that season, wishing someone a "Merry Christmas" or "Happy Holidays" etc. can be received as an insult."Banning books in spite of the 1st amendment, but refusing to regulate guns in spite of "well regulated militia' being in the 2nd amendment makes no sense. Can't think of anyone ever shot by a book
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Yep. Not the sharpest knives in the drawer, are we?There's a lot of things they didn't tell me when I signed on with this outfit....Comment
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περὶ τῶν πεπληροφορημένων ἐν ἡμῖν πραγμάτων
"the events that ocurred between us" (66-70)
are 3
(A) the civil war in Siria
(B) the civil war in the Land of Canaan between the population of Galilea, Perea and Idumea (and even some of Judea) against the lords of Ierusalem
(C) the war against the Romans
"since the census of (Sulpicius) Quirino [year 6] (...) the yehudim (...) argued and fought a lot with each other" because "the powerful ones (hoi dunatoi) mistreated the people/crowd (plethes) and the people/crowd wanted to kill the powerful ones" (Flavio Josefo, Peri Haloseos)
Matthew (ca. 80)
we do not know what the author of the Matthew Text was called,
but it is named after the striking "Matthew" (Matthew 9,9)
Matthew is a sirian-yehudi merchant that writes very angry after "the events"
and in his beautiful and heart-rending naivete dreamed of a pure new beginning
and the rabi of Nazareth is born of the "Queen of Heavens" (Jeremiah 44,17)
we have to remember that Josiah ordered to cut the sacred trees
to impose the cult to the idol/god of the palace of the king, "the lord of the troops"
I do not know why in the cultures of the Mediterranean
from the land of Canaan to the Iberian Peninsula the sacred trees are related to the Queen of Heavens
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These archaic texts compiled in the so-called New Testament (ca. 40-120) ...
These archaic texts of Apocalyptic Judaism are very interesting from an archaeological point of view,
and they have old symbols full of intense feelings and emotions, but they are very depressing
A merchant in Syria dreamed of a new and pure beginning and we are worse than at the beginning
"his fame spread [ca. 80] throughout all Syria" (Matthew 4,24)Comment
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