Sarah = Sadness

[Henning 4148]

Re: Sarah = Sadness

Do we still miss our wooden boat? Sometimes a little bit. Would we still be willing and able to live the wooden boat owner lifestyle? Would we still be able to honour the commitment that owning a wooden boat is? No. Things are as they are. Life is change. Wooden boat ownership is a lifestyle. As everything in the world, it is not for eternity.

[JimConlin]

Re: Sarah = Sadness

When you’ve made a big emotional investment in a boat, as you and Dave did, it’s hard to move on. I feel your pain.

I’m inclined to agree with Garret that the market for a Concordia yawl is probably stronger in New England, as is the availability of brokers who know the boats and people who know their maintenance. Maybe at this time of year, the demand for northbound trucking might be light, with correspondingly lower cost.

Good luck,
Jim

[hawkeye54]

Re: Sarah = Sadness

Margo, I read over the OP , then did some searching - seems I recall 'ChuckT' as rebuilding a Concordia near here in Lexington, SC some years back. Any chance a current Concordia skipper could 'network' a referral to someone who expressed interest in the yacht - " Lovely yacht you have skipper, I'd love to have one" " It so happens I know of one in great condition, with lots of the bits,etc. included " [ some words to that effect ]

[Ted Hoppe]

Re: Sarah = Sadness

Margo, I read over the OP , then did some searching - seems I recall 'ChuckT' as rebuilding a Concordia near here in Lexington, SC some years back. Any chance a current Concordia skipper could 'network' a referral to someone who expressed interest in the yacht - " Lovely yacht you have skipper, I'd love to have one" " It so happens I know of one in great condition, with lots of the bits,etc. included " [ some words to that effect ]

That is not fair to do anything but be supportive of her, not the boat. it was never about the boat but the vessel that held some great times, loving memories and for a long moment of shared passion.

Margo really needs to walk away. She has done so much already. Every month she continues is costing her more without any chance of recovery, prolonging the unavoidable. Moving on will allow others to either find Sarah without lingering relationships or take those valuable jewels off her to build their life's dream. It is the nature of things. It is the ways of wooden boats. It is the way of love.

[John B]

Re: Sarah = Sadness

A very hard problem Margo, one that I also have. I was able to store mine at no cost so she's stored , stable and waiting.
I have no answers except to agree, it's time .

[StevenBauer]

Re: Sarah = Sadness

I’m in the same boat as John. Free storage for Talisman in a bow roof shed in the driveway for the last 10 years or so. I’ve done some of the work she needs but not all. I’ve been thinking of her as a future retirement project but we will see. We’ve got a similar classic plastic boat, too, so we are spending time on the water still.

I’d think some young IRYS graduate would jump at the chance to bring back a boat of this pedigree but I guess they just wouldn’t have the resources. What is the European market like for classic wooden sailboats?

[Pelirrojo]

Re: Sarah = Sadness

I would try getting in touch with the editors of the Concordian. They may well be the best resource.

[stromborg]

Re: Sarah = Sadness

I'm struck by the fact that this thread and http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...6-Any-thoughts are swapping back and forth at the top of this area of the WBF.

One at the beginning, the other at the end.

[Henning 4148]

Re: Sarah = Sadness

The market for traditional boats is not an easy one in Germany. Such a boat always needs an enthusiast, either with an own "boatyard" or with deep pockets. On the other side, there are not that many Concordias in Germany as the boat was built by Abeking and Rasmussen (!) for export, I believe specifically for export to the US of A. Also, boating has taken a big upswing during Covid and there just might be someone who wants to step up one or two sizes. Six ideas:

1. 41 foot is already a size where the market becomes international. The cost of international transport are not that high and would not turn away a serious buyer. A broker who specializes in classic boats (Now Robbe and Berking, formerly Baum and König): https://classic-yachts.com/baum-koenig-yachtmarkler/ I am not connected, I do not know anything about them apart from the fact that they specialize in classics.

2. The German group for classic yachts https://www.fky.org/

3. There is a charterer specializing in classic yachts https://www.classic-yachtcharter.de/

4. Martin Schulz from the Museumshafen Flensburg used to post here on the forum. He is in the classic boat scene in Germany and might have ideas https://museumshafen-flensburg.de/de/ https://museumshafen-flensburg.de/de...d/61-impressum

5. Not sure if Abeking and Rasmussen would be able and willing to help in any way, but it just might be worth a try https://www.abeking.com/en/

6. Classic Boat Magazine in the UK might be another place for advertising a classic (besides Wooden Boat Magazine) https://www.classicboat.co.uk/ We sold our woody through an advert in that mag.

Getting in touch with the above might not hurt. In the end, you only need to find one person who takes her on ... The marketing will involve some work and likely some frustration - that is as it is. We only found one person who actually looked at our boat when we wanted to sell - and had to sell because of an upcoming move. That person bought the boat, it had ticked all his boxes.

[wizbang 13]

Re: Sarah = Sadness

These boats were rich peoples toys . The same people today will buy an 80 foot Oyster. I think there is very little overlap for their usefulness today , as they most likely all need new framing( a few hundred grand to hire out).
Sadness indeed

[Garret]

Re: Sarah = Sadness

These boats were rich peoples toys . The same people today will buy an 80 foot Oyster. I think there is very little overlap for their usefulness today , as they most likely all need new framing( a few hundred grand to hire out).
Sadness indeed

About 10 years ago, I saw a complete reframe of a Concordia done for about 70K. Not saying that's chump change, but certainly less than 200K.

[stromborg]

Re: Sarah = Sadness

About 10 years ago, I saw a complete reframe of a Concordia done for about 70K. Not saying that's chump change, but certainly less than 200K.

Have you noticed the price of lumber lately? Not to mention labor....

Which is not to say the shipwrights don't deserve a better than living wage. The income gap between those who do the work on these boats and those who pay to have it done is a wide one.

[Garret]

Re: Sarah = Sadness

Have you noticed the price of lumber lately? Not to mention labor....

Which is not to say the shipwrights don't deserve a better than living wage. The income gap between those who do the work on these boats and those who pay to have it done is a wide one.

It was a friend who did it and his rates have not gone up. As far as the wood goes, 1) prices are (slowly) dropping, & 2) the wood is a tiny part of the job compared to the labor.

[wizbang 13]

Re: Sarah = Sadness

That pesky fancy interior is in the way . This boat is now ten years older.
not saying Margo’s boat is shot or broken…… but everyone I have inspected is or was.

[Paul Pless]

Re: Sarah = Sadness

Margo has already rebuilt the structure of the boat. . .