Cape Henry 21 vs Penguin

[JimD]

Here's a couple 21ers its hard to choose between. Dudley Dix Cape Henry 21



and John Welsford's Peguin.


Both ply lap, very trailerable, yet heavy enough for coastal hops. And within my means to build which always helps.

[paladin]

The Dix boat is great...son is building a 19 and we are currently stopped dead with another son on the Cape charles 31.5 footer.....

[JimD]

Paladin, what's the story on the 31.5? I know you've talked about such a boat before but I hadn't realized it has actually come off the drawing board.

[paladin]

Yup.....i commissioned the basic boat...frames etc and am (rather slowly now)and finished a lot of the hardware drawings, rudder and other parts...just waiting on the computer generated planks.....

[Doug Canada]

I have a weekness for the Cape Henrys ( http://www.dixdesign.com/ch21.htm ) smaller sister, the Cape Cutter 19 ( http://www.dixdesign.com/inspir19.htm ).

But the Penguin is a beautiful boat ( http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/sto...guin/index.htm ).

But I am of the opinion that the on-line building support from Dudley Dix (Cape Cutter & Henry) is very good.

I like the thought that the Cape Cutter is able to fit in my (double) garage, for a few years, during its construction.

All the best,
Doug

[EKE]

I like both boats a lot, but my vote goes to the Cape Henry...it's lines seem a tad more elegant to me.

BUT...here's the one I'm going to build someday:



Nigel Irens' 22' Romilly!

I must admit that I've become a bit obsessed with it. It just seems perfect to me.

EKE

[ 01-19-2005, 01:32 AM: Message edited by: EKE ]

[Doug Canada]

Hi EKE,

Are there any websites on Nigel Irens' 22' Romilly?

Looks good.

Doug

[Bradley Stemen]

Doug, Nigel can be found at http://www.nigelirens.demon.co.uk/.

Brad

[EKE]

Here's a photo page of some construction and sailing shots of Romilly:

Romilly Photos

Erik

[Old Salt]

Depends on what you are looking for...

John Welsford offers great customer support as well via e mail and his forum.

I am going to build a penguin. It has more cabin room...probably the most you will find in a shoal draft boat of this size.

I am currently building a Sherpa (welsford design) and am really impressed with the way it goes together. Fits together like a puzzle with a lot of inter-locking frames/longitudinals.

[JimD]

The DD boats are flush decked so plenty of cabin width but I assume less headroom. I've become quite frustrated that no designers in plywood seem interested in offering standing headroom in a boat under 30 feet but so it goes.

The DD boats also interlock backbone to frame and offer full size patterns for the planks which ought to speed construction along.

I wouldn't include Romily in this comparison because of the construction method. Strip plank/cold boats are not on my list.

[Venchka]

Romily may look stunning, but the cabin is cramped at best. Hang on Jim, one of these years John W. will finish the plans for the 26' standing headroom boat.

Something to ponder: 30+ sheets of quality marine plywood. $$$$$$.

Wayne
In the Swamp.

[landlocked sailor]

Here is my current favorite trailerable cruiser:

Trailer Sailer 24
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Length: 24'-0"
Beam: 8'-0"
Draft: 1'- 0" bd up
4'- 0" bd dn
Weight: 2500 lbs
Sail Area: 230 sq ft

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Trailer Sailer 24



The TRAILER SAILER 24 was designed, as its name suggests as cruising sailboat that is easy to trailer. Her unique features include a sail rig that is easy to setup and lower with out herculean efforts or A frames and guy wires to get tangled up. Her main mast is on a tabernacle for one person to raise and lower. In spite of the rigs simplicity, it is well proportioned and will perform well on all points of sail. She has leeboards to provide shallow draft capabilities and another ease of trailering feature; however, down below is where the benefits pay off.
There is ample room for a family or two couples to spread out. The raised deck also will provide a roomy feeling. Similarly, there is plenty of room in the spacious cockpit. The leeboards are designed to be easy to handle on all points of sail and are very efficient shape for windward sailing. Her raised deck, low rig and water ballast provide very good stability characteristics. Construction is light but strong, plywood and epoxy. She has a strip planked bilge radius to make her faster, less likely to slap the bottom forward in a chop, and good looking too. Build her and trailer her to the Keys, Chesapeake, Maine, San Jan Islands or to your local waters for fun and adventure.

[Venchka]

Agreed. The TS-24 has a lot going for her. Not too heavy out of the water. Spacious cabin. Ideal rig for ramp launching and rigging. If folks would picture themselves in the cockpit or cabin instead of 50' away looking at the profile (a view you never get when you are actually SAILING the boat), they migt get over the leeboards. The leeboards make the cabin space much more liveable. It is a handful of boat. Anybody up for commisioning a TS-20? That would make a nice family assortment: TS-20, TS-24 and TS-32.

Wayne
In the Swamp.

[JimD]

Hang on Jim, one of these years John W. will finish the plans for the 26' standing headroom boat.

Wayne, I think I've finally made my peace with the headroom issue. If Mr W designs me one so much the better but I'm alread thinking of ways to make the world's fanciest boom tent for a good sized gunkholer such as the two boats in the title of this thread.

As for plywood, half inch marine doug fir is only about $60CAN a sheet which is less than $50US so 30 sheets will still come in under $2000, not even all that large a fraction of the total cost of a twenty something foot sailboat.