Anyone that can share a opinion on this object?

[Steven johnson]

Hello,
(first post so I hope I am in correct fora)
I found this boat but I am concerned it is a lot of work to get it in the water.
Sanding/papering and finnish I am good with but the wood-work is the question.
It has never been in water and has been surfaced covered for 10yrs, what is your "expert" opinions/guesses?
Is it a descent object to try to get seaborn as a beginner?


Any advice appreciated. I am reasonably skilled in wood working but boats are a new area for me..
I have no clue about the age and the travle to pick it up is significant so I need support in judging the pictures..
Thanks in advance.

[dutchpp]

Re: Anyone that can share a opinion on this object?

It's a nice looking boat so it's probably worth the effort. If it haven't been in the water for 10 years it will probably leak considerably, so arrange some electric pumps for a couple of days. The deck needs some work.
If the hull keeps leaking you could try to tighten up the clenching nails a bit, but use the search function of this forum first to learn the do's and don'ts of a lapstrake boat.
Enjoy and welcome!

[Rich Jones]

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Welcome to the Forum!
I'm trying to figure out what kind of boat it is.
It doesn't seem to have any provisions for sail. No mast hole/partner, no centerboard.
I don't see a rudder or any hardware to hold one.
Inboard power perhaps?
Not set up for rowing either.
I'm stumped.
From the pictures the boat seems to be OK, but you can never tell without really getting into it.
It all depends on how well kept it was over the years.

[Steven johnson]

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Hello and thanks a lot for the comment.
I really appreciate it!
The boat has never been floating, the builder passed away just before completion and the owner dont really know what is left to do, and this is 10 years back.
I find it a shame not to cater for the boat.
Is you gut feeling view that this boat is possible to save?
The deck work, would that be a bit of sandingand oli work or do you see wood craftmanship is needed?

I agree on the deck looks as the weakest point but I think (amature) that the hull seems OK, you agree on this?
I have a small lake at my brothers location that is really shallow, perhaps that could be a first touch before I put it in th the archiepelago, that probaly will happen first next year.

Would you guys think it's worth a few 100?
Many questions - sorry for that... but I need a bit of help..

[Steven johnson]

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Hello,
The boat is a pure oar drive boat, there are no sail arrangements or engin mounts so only oars.
My intention is to make a easy outboard engin mount if I cannot manage to get in a small Honda inboard but I think that over my league ..
So . you think the project is not necessarily a failure?

[Steven johnson]

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As a update, the builder passed away before completion so I am bying from a relative that got it as a gift I would need to take the boat to the finale, and I seek a bit of support on this quest ..
I hate leaving such nice boat to be destroyd but I am not confidenced that my skills are enough, the ask is ~300$
is this fair as you see it with only seeing the pictures?

[Peerie Maa]

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It is unfinished, so the builder might not have got round to fitting a mast step, sailing thwart and so on. She is similar in shape to my Shetland model. Peerie Maa does not have a CB but sails like a witch.
I think that the deck makes it more likely to be a sail boat.
She is a lot like this Jaktkanot, the thole pin assemblies are very similar.

Look in here: https://batritningar.se/en/boatplans...ot/5-jaktkanot

[Steven johnson]

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Interresting that the guy selling is living in the same location area as the phone number to the drawings

The boat is a "Jaktkanot" so that is for sure, almos only thing they built in my area. Perhaps it was to be a rig on it at the end.

Look at this:

Would this red marked area indicate a lot of woodwork or is it varnish lifting itself?

Perhaps this boat could be woth a 2-300$ and if I can get plans it would be great, perhaps the guys in the link you kindly shared could give som leads.
I will pass through the seller early next week so need to make up my mind, worth it??
I know it's a gamble but opinions are very welcome!.

[jpatrick]

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I think the items you circled in red are warped wood. I can see what appears to be lifted varnish in other places. The deck wood looks like it was seriously wet at some time then, perhaps covered, and allowed to dry out. Whatever the cause, the deck will need a lot of work. This can be done, of course, but will take some time and skills. Once you figure out how to work on curved surfaces, the work is simply carpentry.

I agree that it is likely an unfinished sailboat. But it also may be made into a nice rowing boat. Weight is a factor.

Jeff

[Geftb]

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Hey Steven,
that deck looks like it has been exposed to the elements for a fair amount of time to cause the timber to move like that.
The deck has been facing up, which suggests that the hull has been holding water.
Its hard for me to tell from these photos what plank troubles you may have.
Its all fixable and there is a lot of experience on this forum which would be happy to help you if you chose that path.
I think the relative should give it to you for free.
Cheers
Steve

[Stiletto]

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If I am in doubt as to whether the price is fair, I often ask myself what else can I get for the same money?
A moral obligation to see the boat to completion needs to be added to the price you have to pay.

Good luck whatever you decide!

[nedL]

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What a pretty little boat! I would be all over her making her right and finishing her off.

[Steven johnson]

Re: Anyone that can share a opinion on this object?

Hello,
I will see if I can inpsect to boat soon, it's not so far away from where I live.
I believe (hope) that the hull might be okey but as you say the deck seems bad and I also guess the deck wood (what are those ribs called, tiles?) is twisted, would I then need to replace the whole deck or can the tiles be changed on by one?

Is there anything specific to watch out for when inspecting the boat, Of course it's for rot, cracks and such visible as any old wooden product, but being a boat, is there a risk that the hull (I think it's called clinker - or tiles) building the hull are broken beyond repair?




I have a feeling the boat would be like this-

from the suggested link here:

https://batritningar.se/sv/batritningar/jaktkanot/5-jaktkanot

Thanks for inout and comments!
Any comments, especially the deck tiles (?) replacement,how to fix those that are twisted and if the other would be ebough to sand down and add oil/varnish
Agan thanks!

[gypsie]

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Do you intend to finish it to the sailing rig you show?
If not, how do you think you'll use it?

Or is it a project for its own sake?

There's a bit of work to get it to good - but i think it looks very doable.

To bring it to the sailing rig may be a bit more than you expect. If it was meant to sail it should have a bit of reinforcing and a compression post around/under where the mast should stand. If not it may not have been built to sail so converting it might be bad.

Looks like it would row very nicely.

[Toxophilite]

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That sure looks like it in those plans, which means you can get plans. Which will help. It will require woodwork to repair and finish it. Not just varnish etc.
A lovely boat, that could be even lovelier, especially with the sailing rig. Are there anymore parts with it?
I think it should be a free boat too

if the boat is in the same area as the plans for the boat, can you call the plans number. Maybe you can get further insight, even some help checking it out.