Anyone that can share a opinion on this object?

[Steven johnson]

Re: Anyone that can share a opinion on this object?

Do you intend to finish it to the sailing rig you show?
If not, how do you think you'll use it?

Or is it a project for its own sake?

There's a bit of work to get it to good - but i think it looks very doable.

To bring it to the sailing rig may be a bit more than you expect. If it was meant to sail it should have a bit of reinforcing and a compression post around/under where the mast should stand. If not it may not have been built to sail so converting it might be bad.

Looks like it would row very nicely.

Hello and thanks for input.
I was actually looking for a small boat to use for solo fishing where I could use my small 2.5hp Nissan I got for free.
Then I though cheap plastic boats are not so pretty so I typed "jaktkanot" in the ads section and this came out, and my initial though (and still is) is to mount the engin on it and use it in combination with oars.

I found below picture of a sold boat that I think is the same type but perhaps plastic (if I look at the mounts for oars and oher stuff) and this seem to be equiped with a outboard motor-mount.
Perhaps with such set-up I could go without rudder to simplify, and put the rigg and rudder to a later point in time if I feel I can and want.
I assume a similar motor mount can be constructed for a wooden jaktkanot as well..

And also, it is a project on it's own - In the future I would like a bigger wooden boat but i am not sure I have the needed skill and skull, so this would be a great learning experiance, and I really like the looks of it!

Am I on a resonable track with this thought line?

[Steven johnson]

Re: Anyone that can share a opinion on this object?

Hello,
I hae just emailed the firm selling the plans and hopefully they can "confirm" if it is the same, the boat and plan creator are in the same place and the plans is referring to a boat with equal dimensions so I think and hope it's the same.

Any idea about the woodwork needed, can I fix the twised wood-"strips" (dont know what they are called) on the deck or do I need to rebuild the deck completly?
Also I read that if the boat has been very humid the hull clinkers/tiles can get compressed when the wood swells and that would give glitches between the tiles on the hull - So i guess I will look for those.
He asks 300$ for the boat and I think that is a bit too much, there are no oars, rudder rig or anything else. I will not get it for free with would be resonable but I can go to 100-ish I think if the hull is OK to my eyes..

Put on a detachable motor mount, would that pr possible?

Thanks all in advance, you are really helpful!

[Peerie Maa]

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^ If you can get her for a reasonable price, I would replace the deck with ply
With the old deck off, you will have better access to fit the thwarts that she needs.
I would build a rudder, as my experience with Peerie Maa suggests that you will need one.
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[wizbang 13]

Re: Anyone that can share a opinion on this object?

that is a free boat
she will cost you far more to finish and tune up
there are more suitable boats to strap on a free 2.5 outboard and go fishin
consider ,one of the most knowledgable folks on here has one (Nick),and you do not know the name of a deck plank.

[Scary Borg Craft]

Re: Anyone that can share a opinion on this object?

that is a free boat
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No, its not. If the hull passes inspection, then you are looking at saving multiple times the asking price just for the wood stock itself. A 6mm plywood deck will not cost a fortune, it could even be done SOF style, its just to keep the water out, not to walk on.

Brand new ones come up on occassions from a build school, for not much more than the wood cost.



I have the plans from Bertil, for several types of "jaktkanot". They are not build plans as such, more a description of how they are put together, but could be used by someone with knowledge, they are scale drawings.

[Steven johnson]

Re: Anyone that can share a opinion on this object?

that is a free boat
she will cost you far more to finish and tune up
there are more suitable boats to strap on a free 2.5 outboard and go fishin
consider ,one of the most knowledgable folks on here has one (Nick),and you do not know the name of a deck plank.

It is not a free boat. The guy that inherited it was respecting the builder and after the inheritage could not manage it, easly understood, and he wanted somone for this care - though not well done due to unawareness.
The guy want his uncles boat to be in use and catered for and for me this is value, also perhaps the guy need som extra $ from us older that has plenty to spare.

@wizbang - I am not stupid, I directly understood that your signum means : "I wish I will ever get laid or have a bang", but How many languages do you translate "deck plank" to? give me one beside from your own local!

I am not native local American speaking, please understand this. Can you say fork in dutch?, can you say oar in german? can you say rudder in spanish? - I really hope you get my point.

If your dear friend Nick has a "Jatkanot" i would love to hear from him, but for now I like your commets be out of threads that I create, I hope you dont mind.

@Nick, hope you can share your view on this nice bout, **** - @wizbang help mi wit speling boat, i wrote bout and supose thas wrng, rigt lov"?

[Steven johnson]

Re: Anyone that can share a opinion on this object?

No, its not. If the hull passes inspection, then you are looking at saving multiple times the asking price just for the wood stock itself. A 6mm plywood deck will not cost a fortune, it could even be done SOF style, its just to keep the water out, not to walk on.

Brand new ones come up on occassions from a build school, for not much more than the wood cost.



I have the plans from Bertil, for several types of "jaktkanot". They are not build plans as such, more a description of how they are put together, but could be used by someone with knowledge, they are scale drawings.

I have made a agreement with the seller and a contact at a LOCAL wood boat yard will join for inspection. I hope the boat will pass as I really love it's lines and looks.
Would you guys like me to continue the thread If I by it and go on with the project?

[Steven johnson]

Re: Anyone that can share a opinion on this object?

It is not a free boat. The guy that inherited it was respecting the builder and after the inheritage could not manage it, easly understood, and he wanted somone for this care - though not well done due to unawareness.
The guy want his uncles boat to be in use and catered for and for me this is value, also perhaps the guy need som extra $ from us older that has plenty to spare.

@wizbang - I am not stupid, I directly understood that your signum means : "I wish I will ever get laid or have a bang", but How many languages do you translate "deck plank" to? give me one beside from your own local!

I am not native local American speaking, please understand this. Can you say fork in dutch?, can you say oar in german? can you say rudder in spanish? - I really hope you get my point.

If your dear friend Nick has a "Jatkanot" i would love to hear from him, but for now I like your commets be out of threads that I create, I hope you dont mind.

@Nick, hope you can share your view on this nice bout, **** - @wizbang help mi wit speling boat, i wrote bout and supose thas wrng, rigt lov"?

edit:

Sorry for offending, didnt note that @wizbang was only thirteen "wizbang 13"
My bad and I apologize sincerely.

[Scary Borg Craft]

Re: Anyone that can share a opinion on this object?

I have made a agreement with the seller and a contact at a LOCAL wood boat yard will join for inspection. I hope the boat will pass as I really love it's lines and looks.
Would you guys like me to continue the thread If I by it and go on with the project?

Good to get someone with knowledge to check. If it has copper fastenings, all the better, but think planking can split easily when left to dry out.

People here can be fickle. Do you have a better photo of the underwater area aft? It does not look as though any engine beds are in place, so more sail and oar version.

Your individual deck planks could be replaced, depending on the plank edges. I have seen them half-lapped and secret nailed through the tongue, meaning difficult to remove without damaging planks on either side. If straight seamed planks just with bedding seam, not so big an issue. Let us know how it pans out.

[Scary Borg Craft]

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edit:

Sorry for offending, didnt note that @wizbang was only thirteen "wizbang 13"
My bad and I apologize sincerely.

Wizzbang is the name of his little runabout. Hes almost pension age.

[rbgarr]

Re: Anyone that can share a opinion on this object?

What a pretty little boat! I would be all over her making her right and finishing her off.

The blocks of wood resting on the deck are oarlocks with single thole pins. They just haven't been mounted yet. A rower would likely do best by fitting a moveable box to sit on. I wouldn't bother making a sailing rig or outboard motor arrangement, but that's my opinion.

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[wizbang 13]

Re: Anyone that can share a opinion on this object?

i'm not offended, don't worry bout 'dat
no need for apology, deep offense or spelling corrections.
"Nick" is Peerie Maa
i say "free boat" cuz it's been not so well loved .
most boats are worth more as a pile of raw materials. that's the breaks
Bruce....well past "almost pension age".

[Steven johnson]

Re: Anyone that can share a opinion on this object?

i'm not offended, don't worry bout 'dat
no need for apology, deep offense or spelling corrections.
"Nick" is Peerie Maa
i say "free boat" cuz it's been not so well loved .
most boats are worth more as a pile of raw materials. that's the breaks
Bruce....well past "almost pension age".

Not sure I get all points but nevertheless sir please join me or at least comfort me on teh quest for my boat..
all the best sir.

[heimlaga]

Re: Anyone that can share a opinion on this object?

To me the boat looks like a decent buy. I also like the shape of the hull. It has certainly gotten thoroughly soaked with water a few times but if there isn't too much rot it should be all right.

The beauty of traditional clinker building is that every single part can be replaced when needed. The material grows in the woods. The rest is only woodwork.

[Peerie Maa]

Re: Anyone that can share a opinion on this object?

If your dear friend Nick has a "Jatkanot" i would love to hear from him, but for now I like your commets be out of threads that I create, I hope you dont mind.

@Nick, hope you can share your view on this nice bout, **** - @wizbang help mi wit speling boat, i wrote bout and supose thas wrng, rigt lov"?

Peerie Maa is from the Shetland Isles. She shares her ancestry with Scandinavian craft, specifically from Bergen.
She is a 12 foot of keel boat, that comes out at 18 foot over the stems and 5 foot 2" beam.

If you can accept some guidance on terminology, our boats are clinker built, skinned with planks, yours has a deck also planked over deck beams.
Peerie is framed out with sawn frames, bands in Old Norse. The boat you are considering is framed out with steamed timbers, and has sawn floors (the framing components that cross the keel) on every other frame. Many people think that you walk on a boat's floors, you do not, the platform has many different names, sometimes bottom boards, or ballast boards. In the Shetland boats they are tilfers, if in a cabin/cockpit they are sole boards. The Jatkanot has a coaming around its cockpit, and what looks like a hatch in the foredeck. I spoke of thwarts, the transverse seats that can also serve to tie the boat's sides together, seats running ford to at around the boats sides are benches. In the Norse tradition the sawn frames are tied together with beams, the thwarts are not attached at all. I see from the original plans that these boat's rowing thwart may well be loose, it is not tied in with standing knees, and the mast beam is attached to the cockpit coaming, to give the mast greater bury or strength.I hope that helps. I have dived down to the basics, as I do not know the extent of your boatbuilding knowledge.