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    I thought I would give brief overview of what it is like to produce a sail from a Sailrite kit. In this case I needed a new jib to replace one that has been well used, put away wet and is now a sticky mess after I decided to pull off the UV protective strip and have yet to find a good way to clear off the adhesive residue left behind.



    When you order a kit from them it comes in a box with almost everything you need to make your sail. Pre-cut panels, patches for the corners, hardware, leather including a needle and thread to handsew the leather on and a multi-page instruction manual that is a combination of boilerplate and things specific to your sail. Not included is a setting tool for the spur grommets, though they will happily sell you one.


    Not necessary but helpful is their proprietary sewing machine, in this case an LSZ-1. I bought this one when I was getting ready to sew Marianita's sails, previously i had used an old but potent Necchi BU that struggled a bit after 5 or 6 layers of sailcloth. Still have the Necchi but I do like the added power of the LSZ-1. A good pair of scissors, I have three very nice left-handed Ginghers in different sizes but the little thread snipper sees a lot of use.


    Corner patches come cut, labeled and stapled together.


    They get basted together with double-sided tape.

    Then basted/sewn onto the main panel. Sailrite says one row zigzag or two rows straight stitch. My process is to start with the three or four corner patches and fill in from there. Included in the paperwork is a diagram of the sail with all the pieces so you can sew "accessory" bits like reef points in the middle of a panel while it is relatively small.
    Steve

    If you would have a good boat, be a good guy when you build her - honest, careful, patient, strong.
    H.A. Calahan

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    Re: Sailrite Jib Kit

    Thanks Steve, I like many of us(I suppose) have wondered about these kits and the ease of diy. One thing that I’m curious about is sewing the leather reinforcing and how difficult it could be.
    Did you do Marianitas’ sails?


    Andrew
    Last edited by ADonald; 05-08-2023, 11:45 PM.

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    • #3
      Re: Sailrite Jib Kit


      This is a close up of panels 7 and 8, this seam is buried under the patches that reinforce the head. You run a line of basting tape in the seam allowance and stick them together, bringing the upper edge down the meet up with the line drawn on the lower panel.


      This pair of panels makes up the foot of the sail. You can see the computer generated curves cut into the two edges. Marrying the two is what gives the sail "shape", in traditional sailmaking this is where broadseaming is used to the same effect. You do want to take your time and get the two edges lined up just right. Working on as clean a floor as you can is important, I commandeered the livingroom because there was no way I was going to get my shop floor clean enough to lay white sailcloth on it. Also the double sided basting tape is very sticky and has a magnetic attraction for any and everything nearby. I had two cats when I built my first sets of sails, there are still stray cat hairs in the seams.



      Sewn together you can now see the "bubble".



      Much like a tablesaw, at some point you'll want an infeed and runoff table. This sail was small enough to do the work from my chair, bigger sails I've done with the machine on the floor from a crouched position. It can be a real test of agility, in my old house (and single at the time) I considered cutting a hatch into the floor...

      What you end up doing is rolling part of the sail into a tube that fits under the arm of the machine with the other piece laid out to the left as they get sewn together. Fortunately new sailcloth is pretty stiff so up to a point it is self-supporting. Start with small panels, working up to the big ones and you'll get to a system that works for you.
      Steve

      If you would have a good boat, be a good guy when you build her - honest, careful, patient, strong.
      H.A. Calahan

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      • #4
        Re: Sailrite Jib Kit

        Good post!

        I recently built a Sailrite lug sail - something around 105 sqft. It was my second kit from Sailrite. I used a Kenmore home sewing maching. It has done fine. At one point I was sewing through 8 layers of cloth!

        Here is the link to my thread. The sail part starts at post 193. Note particularly the table setup I used. It is very important to get that sail on an even plane so it doesn't pull as you sew it.

        Here's the finished sail.

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        Here's the link to my entire build with lots of pics of the sewing process: https://photos.app.goo.gl/LFtqocDwVCgk9YS58

        In case money is an issue, this kit was less than $300. Estimates from sailmakers ran from $800-1400. I bought a small mizzen from Duckworks for $100. The Sailrite kit was the same price. No brainer.
        Last edited by dalekidd; 05-09-2023, 03:14 PM.

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        • #5
          Re: Sailrite Jib Kit

          Nice overview. My Sailrite kit went together pretty easily and I too have cat hair stuck in the seams. I had enough stuff left over and the kit gave me the confidence to buy some cloth and build a topsail. Plus bugging Todd about the details helped a lot.

          http://sailingmoga.com/

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          • #6
            Re: Sailrite Jib Kit

            Territorial dispute......

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            There is always enough static present that the last step in any sail project was always to hang it up by the corners and vacuum the room and then vacuum the dog fur off the sail. Even so, there is a pretty good chance that somewhere in every sail there are a couple of small black hairs stuck in the seam tape. I have several small horn cleats spread around the room, close to the ceiling, specifically for hanging up sails for cleaning.

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            • #7
              Re: Sailrite Jib Kit

              Thanks for posting this! It's quite timely for me actually: I am currently building a boat and thinking ahead to the sail. I found a kit from Sailrite that should work, but I am also considering going the cheaper polytarp sail route (at least for the time being). Your description of the process has relieved some of my anxiety about going with the Sailrite.

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              • #8
                Re: Sailrite Jib Kit

                I've done a couple. I find them straightforward with satisfying results. The folks at sailrite are helpful too. Being in Canada building a kit from the States isn't huge savings over a made sail from a sailmaker (maybe 20-30% difference) but if you like making things and learning new skills it's worth it.
                You do have to be inventive with space though.

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                • #9
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                  I found Sailrite to be a great company and full of great information. Now the sail I 'assembled' was all of 57 sq ft. but I did learn a lot and enjoyed every second of it.

                  I have heard that their products are more expensive in Canada, but I don't think I could have made a sail for less money. I think it was about $250.00. I did buy a REX sewing machine which is about $600.00 less than the sailrite.

                  I did buy the big wheel kit, I think it was the monster II which fit the REX perfectly. Sailrite themselves had suggested the upgrade for the REX.
                  I would recommend Sailrite to anybody wanting to sew their first sail. The kit I bought did have the grommet sets included, which I did need.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Sailrite Jib Kit

                    Not so much more expensive in Canada, but rather the exchange rate ,plus international shipping, plus taxes add up to make a significant difference. 74 sq foot sail was $800 Can, however that has nothing to do with Sailrite itself, just the logistics of the situation.

                    Originally posted by ShorelineJohn
                    I found Sailrite to be a great company and full of great information. Now the sail I 'assembled' was all of 57 sq ft. but I did learn a lot and enjoyed every second of it.

                    I have heard that their products are more expensive in Canada, but I don't think I could have made a sail for less money. I think it was about $250.00. I did buy a REX sewing machine which is about $600.00 less than the sailrite.

                    I did buy the big wheel kit, I think it was the monster II which fit the REX perfectly. Sailrite themselves had suggested the upgrade for the REX.
                    I would recommend Sailrite to anybody wanting to sew their first sail. The kit I bought did have the grommet sets included, which I did need.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Sailrite Jib Kit

                      Yikes! My little jib with a 16' luff and 8' foot was about $350 to my door in four days.

                      I got sidetracked the past couple of days but I'll finish up the luff, leech and foot taping shortly.
                      Steve

                      If you would have a good boat, be a good guy when you build her - honest, careful, patient, strong.
                      H.A. Calahan

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                      • #12
                        Re: Sailrite Jib Kit

                        Yes I know. I could've had a local sailmaker make one for about $2-300 more but there was a several month wait. I don't have that sort of patience.

                        Originally posted by stromborg
                        Yikes! My little jib with a 16' luff and 8' foot was about $350 to my door in four days.

                        I got sidetracked the past couple of days but I'll finish up the luff, leech and foot taping shortly.

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                        • #13
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                          By far the most difficult part of the whole process is the handwork of stitching in the rings and anchoring the luff rope. I have a set of needles purchased from Brion Toss' old shop in Port Townsend, they came in handy because the needle Sailrite sends with the kit is pretty dull by comparison. I guess I should add a good palm to the list of specialty tools you'll want to make this project more enjoyable.


                          Finishing up. The edges of the sail all get taped, leech and foot with 1 1/2" and the luff gets 3". All three corners get leather chafe covers too. The kit comes with bronze piston hanks, I have a dyneema forestay so opted to make up a bunch of small soft shackles.



                          and we're up!


                          While i was down at the marina I got the main (also a Sailrite kit) rigged up too. It always takes me a few tries to get it all laced on just right and then a few sails for the lacing to sort of "settle in". Mizzen goes on next and then we're set to go sailing.
                          Steve

                          If you would have a good boat, be a good guy when you build her - honest, careful, patient, strong.
                          H.A. Calahan

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                          • #14
                            Re: Sailrite Jib Kit

                            Jurassic period "1 inch for every 10 or 12 feet of luff length" nonsense is just converted into percentages in advance such that it's useable.
                            That sort of thing has worked well for a very long time and still works just fine. There is nothing nonsensical about it. The sequences to design a jib properly are spelled out in post number six of this thread. Folks can decide whether or not they want to do their own design work or let Sailrite do it for them. Both work without a problem.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Sailrite Jib Kit

                              As I said before, they still work just fine. You are welcome to your opinion as well as to post some of the sails you have made. If you are worried about the design phase of sailmaking needing to be "much faster and less error prone" then your inexperience is showing. The design phase, and even the lofting if you are doing it the traditional way, takes about half an hour if you know what you are doing. Compared to the rest of the work involved (even when building a kit) half an hour of design work is nothing, and once it's over, the rest is just assembling.

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