How difficult of a repair is this?

[skerry]

Noticed discoloration in the bilge which I assume means water has penetrated the ply there. It feels hard still but I can’t tell of this is new or not I don’t recall seeing it before. The boat has only been in the water since Sunday.

[Larks]

Re: How difficult of a repair is this?

What sort of ply and how was it treated? IE is it glassed over? Epoxy saturated? Painted? What sort of paint etc...???

The simple answer to your question seems to be take it out if the water, strip whatever is over the ply, dry it out and re-coat it.....but that depends on the above.......

[skerry]

I believe just epoxy, there was a new coat of bottom paint added in January. I was more worried I would have to replace it I guess. I’ll take pics and keep an eye on it, more hoping the bottom paint would allow me to get through the season.

[Ian McColgin]

Re: How difficult of a repair is this?

New bottom paint is irrelevant to your pix are inside. I think Larks is on the right track - strip that stuff inside, dry, soak with CPES or other thin penetrating epoxy and once cured (give it a week) coat with something waterproof, not plain epoxy.

G'luck

[skerry]

New bottom paint is irrelevant to your pix are inside. I think Larks is on the right track - strip that stuff inside, dry, soak with CPES or other thin penetrating epoxy and once cured (give it a week) coat with something waterproof, not plain epoxy.

G'luck

I just assumed this is coming from outside, this is inside the cabin and very little water gets in here. I can easily enough recoat inside while she’s moored…but how do I know if I have a problem outside?


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[wizbang 13]

Re: How difficult of a repair is this?

it looks like a meranti ply.If its aqua tek that's good. if its a knockoff maybe not so good. Show us a photo of the end grain(lams) of the ply she was built of, the skins may be a 64th of an inch thick.I have spots like that on meranti ply since day one also.
it also looks like the filets are microbaloons (WEST 407). This is not the best, red fillers are not strong.
I dunno if I'd go gringing or stripping yet, It aint gonna rot in a week, it aint de lamming ...watch it .....

[skerry]

Re: How difficult of a repair is this?

it looks like a meranti ply.If its aqua tek that's good. if its a knockoff maybe not so good. Show us a photo of the end grain(lams) of the ply she was built of, the skins may be a 64th of an inch thick.I have spots like that on meranti ply since day one also.
it also looks like the filets are microbaloons (WEST 407). This is not the best, red fillers are not strong.
I dunno if I'd go gringing or stripping yet, It aint gonna rot in a week, it aint de lamming ...watch it .....

The bilge cover boards appear to be the same so I'll get a pic tomorrow of the end grain. Not sure I can do anything about the fillets...

This is meranti according to the survey originally done

[timo4352]

Re: How difficult of a repair is this?

I would just watch it.
If it's not broke (soft or rotten) don't fix it.
It looks close to a scarf in the ply there... scarfed edges get pretty thin...maybe it is epoxy soaked and not water soaked.
Is it hard when you tap or poke at it?.. or soft? ..meaning rot.

[skerry]

Re: How difficult of a repair is this?

I would just watch it.
If it's not broke (soft or rotten) don't fix it.
It looks close to a scarf in the ply there... scarfed edges get pretty thin...maybe it is epoxy soaked and not water soaked.
Is it hard when you tap or poke at it?.. or soft? ..meaning rot.

It feels hard and knocking on it the sound isn't any different than the non colored boards. My main goal was to decide if I can keep her moored for the season and have fun sailing and I'm getting more confident that will be fine. I took some baseline pics so if it gets worse I'll reconsider.

[John Meachen]

Re: How difficult of a repair is this?

Is there a keelband beneath the boat? Poorly bedded screws down there might be an entry point.

[debenriver]

Re: How difficult of a repair is this?

^1

I have to say it looks to me as if it's from outside – keel or keelband or garboard fastenings perhaps. If so of course it'll get worse the longer she is afloat.

Cheers -- George

[skerry]

Re: How difficult of a repair is this?

I'm not 100% sure how the planks sit against the keel were done, there's no obvious fastenings I could see. The keel is bolted through the frame, could be coming up through a bolt I suppose.

[skerry]

Best pics I can find below the water line so far

Best pics below the

[stromborg]

Re: How difficult of a repair is this?


Construction-wise it should look something like this. Wide beveled keelson with garboards epoxied on, the built-up deadwood/keel is epoxied and through bolted to the hull.


The pictures are from my build of the same boat. I did see Moonbeam (ex-Suzanne) being built in Port Townsend but don't have any pictures.

[skerry]

Well David got back to me and said it’s been there since the first season. Guess I’ll keep an eye on it for changes and hope the new bottom paint keeps any water out if its an outside issues


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