Swampscott Dory with old One-Lunger

[shickey]

I am building an 18' Swampscott Surf Dory in my back yard in Somerville, MA. Kind of a challenge in an semi-urban environment. So far no complaints from neighbors even when I fire up the one-lunger without a muffler.

https://sites.google.com/site/stephenahickey2/swampscott-18-surf-dory?authuser=0

I am working from plans from Lowell's Boat Shop which were mostly dimensions of the patterns they used and not actual offsets. I worked from these to add further detail in CAD.

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[Peerie Maa]

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Interesting.
I am assuming that you are not going to be using this in surf anywhere near a beach?

[shickey]

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Not quite sure why they call them surf dories, but no I don't intend on launching from beach.

[Peerie Maa]

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Not quite sure why they call them surf dories, but no I don't intend on launching from beach.

The hull form would be OK in surf when under oar. That may be what they were developed for, like the Seabright and other New Jersey skiffs.

[shickey]

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Yes, I think she would be seaworthy in surf. She is also getting a false bottom this spring so she can be beached. It is just that I am unfamiliar with the type of in-shore fishing these dories were used for and if it required be launched through surf. I have only seen pictures of them tied up at T-wharf in Boston or sailing in and out of Boston harbor.
Just as i said that I remembered a picture of one launching from the beach but for pleasure:
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[TerryLL]

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Nice photo spread!
Was there some compelling reason you built right-side-up? Getting that garboards on must have been an adventure.

[shickey]

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The picture I am showing with the bottom up is just so I could glass the bottom (the only thing that will be glassed), and then in the spring cut the centerboard slot, and attach false bottom. Then I will flip her back over to finish planking. This is a picture of fastening the garboards:
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[John Meachen]

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I believe Nick's point about beaching related to the likelihood of propellor damage.The hull is otherwise a good choice for beach work.

[Peerie Maa]

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Nice photo spread!
Was there some compelling reason you built right-side-up? Getting that garboards on must have been an adventure.

Most builders working in clinker built right way up. Dollying up over your head is not that hard, and if you clink every plank before hanging the next one, you don't even need a helper. But clinking roves on your kneed under an up turned hull striking upwards is a total PITA.
It was only when amateurs started gluing planks together over lots of molds that building inverted became popular.

[shickey]

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When these were first built there was no engine or propeller so beaching was easy. I am putting in an engine (see details here: engine) so I will have to be more careful. I used to own a St. Pierre dory which was much larger (27') and allowed the prop to be pulled into a well when beaching. But I don't have the room for that.
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[Ian McColgin]

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My Chamberlain gunning dory proved good in mild surf off the Oregon coast as I long lined for ling cod But not engine. Even with a dispro (disappearing propeller) lath a unching and landing on a beach is hard.

The Oregon Dory types with a husky outboard and brawny crew are another matter.

Back to your dory, pukataputting gently could be fun. Maybe four or five knots since that dory shape really makes a hole in the water between the bow and stern wave.

When she's complete, trailer down to North River - good put-in off Rte 3A - and cruise the wetlands. A brilliant landscape artist named Stilgoe (spelling approximate) wrote a book on the area. I don't know if motors are allowed.

G'luck

[Ian McColgin]

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Reading your posts with proper attention, I figure you know what you're doing. The Boston Harbor islands and down by Hull are fun. And there's an East Boston boat club that camps the islands and are very hospitable.

Enjoy what looks to be a super boat.

[shickey]

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The whole idea of the boat is gunkholing up the North Shore and down the South Shore with an occasional trip out to Provincetown but all in good weather. I have the engine running and I know these things were reliable in the right hands but it is going to take me a while to have confidence to go far with it. Though I will have sail and oar back up.

[Thad]

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Surf dories are generally double ended Swampscott type (round sided) dories where even the tombstone transom sterned dories, like this one, are narrow enough at the waterline for working off a beach as at Swampscott. I don't think the power dory was ever of the double ended sort, but there you go. She will probably squat under power with the narrow stern. All fun.

[TerryLL]

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Most builders working in clinker built right way up. Dollying up over your head is not that hard, and if you clink every plank before hanging the next one, you don't even need a helper. But clinking roves on your kneed under an up turned hull striking upwards is a total PITA.
It was only when amateurs started gluing planks together over lots of molds that building inverted became popular.

Right you are. After seeing the ply bottom and gbds upside down, I assumed the rest of the planks would also be ply. But I see now that the remaining planks will be solid wood either riveted or clench nailed, so right-side-up makes perfect sense.

I'm one of those amateurs you speak of that has built four dories and one Caledonia yawl, all upside down, in epoxy glue-lap. I also built one riveted and clench-nailed skiff in solid planks, which was a true joy. Epoxy-ply-lap is great, except for the epoxy part.

It looks like shikey has the hybrid method well thought out.