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    Another Hartley TS16 restore.

    With the retirement of Redwing another boat was needed, and a downsized one at that. I've always liked the Hartley TS16, and in fact my original plan was to build one.
    Anyway I bought one.
    Jay and I.jpg
    It involved a road trip to somewhere substantially colder, but it was fun, and it was nice to get away for a day or two. Also I got to meet JayinOz.
    Once home it was a matter of reorganisng the shed to fit the new boat.
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    And there it sat for a couple of weeks.
    I did manage a few hours removing all the cabin sole and bunk panels and vacuuming out the hull inside the cabin.
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    And I did find the partial remains of a previous owner.
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    Which brings us to today.
    Last edited by WX; 06-19-2021, 04:24 AM.
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      Re: Another Hartley TS16 restore.

      Today was follow the rot and see where we end up. I started on the port quarter of the cockpit seat as I knew it was dodgy.
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      So a bit of digging showed it was in to the beamshelf and a section of topside but it's reasonably small.
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      So I set the power saw to a depth of 6mm and removed a good sized section of cockpit seat. Hammer and chisel removed the bits over framing.
      Judging by the fact recorcinol was used in the original construction I would say it was constructed sometime in the 60s or early 70s.
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        • #3
          Re: Another Hartley TS16 restore.

          So, topside, I won't know how bad till I strip the paint back but I will probably replace the whole section from the transom forard to the buttstrap.
          Topside1.jpg

          Moving on the the outboard well and the transom uncovered another fairly big area of rot, but not in the framing.
          Outboardwell 1.jpg

          Outboard well removed.jpg

          As for the transom, I had hoped a patch would work, but I'm thinking it may be smarter to replace both layers of the transom ply.
          Transom 1.jpg
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            • #4
              Re: Another Hartley TS16 restore.

              This looks familiar, ouch!

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                • #5
                  Re: Another Hartley TS16 restore.

                  Originally posted by Slacko
                  This looks familiar, ouch!
                  Yeah, but done properly this time. There's no rush, no hardstand fees or time limit.
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                    • #6
                      Re: Another Hartley TS16 restore.

                      If you remove and replace the transom make sure that the hull is secured.
                      Have heard of problems with hull springing out wide and it is tough job to pull it back into shape and ensure the hull is correct.

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                        • #7
                          Re: Another Hartley TS16 restore.

                          Buttstrap??

                          You could do without that “outboard well” thing Gary, 'might make things a bit easier for you.
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                            • #8
                              Re: Another Hartley TS16 restore.

                              I feel really bad now- it looks awful! I'm sure there was no rot in the transom when it was painted, so I'm thinking that has happened while it's been sat in the shed over several years- rain and leaves sat in there wet. And that captains cap was in good shape when the rats stole it! JayInOz

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                                • #9
                                  Go hard on it Gary.


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                                    • #10
                                      Re: Another Hartley TS16 restore.

                                      I'd ditch the outboard well too. Extra room in the cockpit there!
                                      Do you still have the outboard bracket from the other one?
                                      The racing boys in NZ don't even have outboards, they treat them like a big dinghy.

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                                        • #11
                                          Re: Another Hartley TS16 restore.

                                          Originally posted by Don MacLeod
                                          If you remove and replace the transom make sure that the hull is secured.
                                          Have heard of problems with hull springing out wide and it is tough job to pull it back into shape and ensure the hull is correct.
                                          Hartley transoms are quite strongly framed, and this one is sound. All I need to do is strip the ply off and replace it.
                                          Without freedom of speech, we wouldn't know who the idiots are.

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                                            • #12
                                              Re: Another Hartley TS16 restore.

                                              Originally posted by Larks
                                              Buttstrap??

                                              You could do without that “outboard well” thing Gary, 'might make things a bit easier for you.
                                              I was thinking of a modified outboard well with a locker in the middle.
                                              Without freedom of speech, we wouldn't know who the idiots are.

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                                                • #13
                                                  Re: Another Hartley TS16 restore.

                                                  Originally posted by Slacko
                                                  I'd ditch the outboard well too. Extra room in the cockpit there!
                                                  Do you still have the outboard bracket from the other one?
                                                  The racing boys in NZ don't even have outboards, they treat them like a big dinghy.
                                                  The outboard bracket on Redwing is quite heavy. I'm going to stick with clamping it to the transom.
                                                  Something like this.
                                                  Outboardwell 1.jpg
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                                                    • #14
                                                      Re: Another Hartley TS16 restore.

                                                      Originally posted by JayInOz
                                                      I feel really bad now- it looks awful! I'm sure there was no rot in the transom when it was painted, so I'm thinking that has happened while it's been sat in the shed over several years- rain and leaves sat in there wet. And that captains cap was in good shape when the rats stole it! JayInOz
                                                      It looks worse than it is. Ply is easy to replace and the bit of rotted framing is quite small. The transom ply is damp and the dirt in the bilges was damp as well...it kills plywood quite fast once it gets going.
                                                      Relax Jay, I had a fair idea what I was buying.
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                                                        • #15
                                                          Re: Another Hartley TS16 restore.

                                                          Ok- relaxed So are you intending to have a little outboard on it Gary? I could have let you have the one that was on it cheap- a little five horse Tohatsu in as new condition. For that matter I could have left the wheel and forward controls on and you would have had a lot less holes to fill JayInOz

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