Another Hartley TS16 restore.

[WX]

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One nice new sheet of 6mm ply, and I should get the port quarter topside plank plus both layers of the transom and still have some small bits left over.
1st Ply sheet1.jpg

Port quarter plank dry fitted.
Topside plank 1.jpg
The next job was to see just how bad the rot was in the transom framing...it was pretty ugly.

Transom frame 1.jpg
And it got uglier.
Transom frame 2.jpg
But some careful cutting with jigsaw and powersaw gave me something workable. The dry fit result turned out quite well.
Transom frame 3.jpg

[Larks]

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It might be a bit too far out of your way Gary, but if you are still after some decent marine ply at a decent price I’ve just bought a few sheets from this guy in Nerang and, although they are only BS standard and not AS/NZS they seem to be quite good quality and are also the best priced that I have found. Good faces and, from what I can see so far, no dodgy voids in the laminates.

https://marineplywood.com.au/prices

[FishoutaFlorida]

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Certainly good to see you helping another Hartley extend it's life Gary! I'll be keeping an eye on your progress.

With regard to wood prices, ply and lumber prices are still bumping the ceiling around here. But I was a bit shocked when I found out that the PT 4X4 fence posts that I needed had dropped $2 each the day before I bought them.

Keep up the good work!

[gypsie]

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Love the energy, she'll come up a beaut.

[gypsie]

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https://marineplywood.com.au/prices

Wow, that's amazing prices. Almost half what you pay near me.

[WX]

Re: Another Hartley TS16 restore.

It might be a bit too far out of your way Gary, but if you are still after some decent marine ply at a decent price I’ve just bought a few sheets from this guy in Nerang and, although they are only BS standard and not AS/NZS they seem to be quite good quality and are also the best priced that I have found. Good faces and, from what I can see so far, no dodgy voids in the laminates.

https://marineplywood.com.au/prices

I've been looking at their website Greg.

[WX]

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Love the energy, she'll come up a beaut.

I'm restricted at the moment to one day a week but I'm happy with the progress. The transom was likely to be the biggest headache and I wasn't sure if I was going to have to totally rebuild it. I'm pleased I didn't have to.
FishoutaForida, thanks.

[WX]

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That day again and quite productive it was.
I did make up a transom template but when I removed it from the transom and laid it on the ply, I was a bit not impressed. So as I had managed to remove the original ply more or less intact, I figured it would be the ideal template.
Transom template 1.jpg
I really tried to minimize wastage when it came to cutting the second layer but the cutout left from cutting the topside plank made it difficult.
Transom ply cutout1.jpg
That done it was onto preparing the port quarter for the new plank.
Paint stripping is not fun but the heat gun, despite the cool breeze helped. I think I need a windbreak set up, I was losing a lot of heat I think. Anyway I got enough done to allow the repair.
Note the previous topside repair top left.
Paint stripping 1.jpg
With the outside done it was time to clean up the stringers etc.
Stringers cleaned up.jpg

[WX]

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And finally the buttstraps are glued in place. Normally I would use epoxy but I'd recently bought some Gorilla Glue so I figured I'd give that a go.
Buttstraps glued on.jpg

[WX]

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I managed to squeeze in about an hour's work today. I had hoped to get the top side plank glued on but I noticed one of the buttstraps was sitting a bit proud of the stringer, so that needed pulling into line.
However, I did get all the new timber glued into the transom frame. This means next Sunday I can get the first layer of transom ply glued on.
Glued transom framing.jpg
I had some clear epoxy left over so that went on the transom outer layer...outside face.
Epoxy coat transom ply 1.jpg

[skuthorp]

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"I did make up a transom template but when I removed it from the transom and laid it on the ply, I was a bit not impressed."
It was the same when I replaced the transom on the cadet. And when I came to put the new one in I was not at all sure it would……. no, the boat would fit it! But it all came together and she is sailing on a lake with the disabled Sailing organisation, I gave it to them. I gave 3 boats away in 2019.

[WX]

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"I did make up a transom template but when I removed it from the transom and laid it on the ply, I was a bit not impressed."
It was the same when I replaced the transom on the cadet. And when I came to put the new one in I was not at all sure it would……. no, the boat would fit it! But it all came together and she is sailing on a lake with the disabled Sailing organisation, I gave it to them. I gave 3 boats away in 2019.

When I cut out the first one I checked to see if it would fit...it did.

[WX]

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The starboard cockpit seat is structurally sound, but not how I want it. So the first section is cut away to allow me to clean up the transom framing before the big glue-up tomorrow.
Starboard quarter 1.jpg

[WX]

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Sunday and time to mix epoxy.
1st job was the portside topside plank repair and that went well.
None of these photos are going to look like much but they are big steps.
Topside plank glued.jpg
Next was the first layer of transom ply. this consumed a decent amount of brushed on epoxy and thickened epoxy. It's a bit gappy around the edges but that will get filled in when the 2nd layer goes on.
Transom ply 1st layer.jpg
I had hoped to get the 2nd layer on but the 1st layer needed cramping to the frame in a few places.
The next stage is to modify the cockpit seats, make them wider to increase storage space and reduce down the companionway. One of the ply offcuts is actually big enough to modify the portside of the companionway. I do like this small boat stuff, the material demands are so small.
I had planned to strip back all the paint on the framing but heatgun and scrapper is not easy work. Particularly with dodgy finger joints.
So I grabbed a bucket of water and a chunk of mattress sponge and cleaned up a big section, and the paint under the grime is not so bad. If I can get it really clean I figure I will give it a light sand and simply repaint it.
I lined this shot up to show Redwing sulking in the background.
Portside aft cabin.jpg

[WX]

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Guess it must be Sunday eh.
Sunday started well with the 2nd layer of transom ply going on with only a bit of trimming.
Transom layer 2.jpg
I had planned on starting the portside cockpit seat and cabin bulkhead mods...but one of the big question marks regarding this boat has been the centreboard case. JayinOz mentioned he had had an ongoing leak problem from around the case somewhere.
I started with the bolts holding the case to the keelson, and this is where the problems started. All but two of the bolts turned with the nut, and that is not a good start. Also, the log on the portside near the centreboard pin showed signs of rot.
Centreboard 1.jpg
The screws holding caps over the pin came out way too easy.
The pin is in good shape with no signs of pitting.
Centreboard pin.jpg

The bolts look like they may be copper but I haven't cleaned the paint off enough to be sure, they may well be stainless. Either way, unless the shanks are just threaded rod it looks like I am going to have to cut them off.
Anyway given that, I concentrated on stripping any cabin sole framing off the case.
Centreboard 2.jpg
And, that was today.