The believed abstraction of a 12 foot clinker dinghy.

[Mike1902]

Re: The believed abstraction of a 12 foot clinker dinghy.

Getting the dinghy into the workshop was the next challenge,a challenge because my workshop is on a hill with limited access.

There are many windows but only one door which has an opening width of 820 mm (32").With the help of a few mates the dinghy passed through with millimetres to spare.
I had pre measured this of course and once I had removed the rotten bowsprit I new it would be close.

I now have to keep this in mind when designing the new attachments ( bowsprit,coamings etc) so I can get it back out.Removing the door frame is an option if I need a few more mm.
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As my father says "we will panic when we get there".

[Mike1902]

Re: The believed abstraction of a 12 foot clinker dinghy.

As you can see in this image (apologies in advance for the contemplation pose for dramatic effect) there are holes in about 5 or 6 strakes either side of the keel.The lower area of the transom was also a little soft.

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I decided to replace the transom anyway because I thought a)I didn't need an outboard recess, b)it was to heavy, c)it was ugly.
Then the deconstruction began,deck off,centreboard case out,most of the laminated ribs and floors.

I removed all of the paint inside and out to see what else may be hidden below the coatings.
I had rigged up a pulley system (since improved upon) so I could rotate the dinghy to reach it at all angles for ease of work.
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[Woxbox]

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Cool project. Looks to be inspired by New England catboats. I'd be thinking of the Beetle Cat rig for her. 100 square feet on 12'4" by 6' hull weighing somewhere above 400 pounds.

[Breakaway]

The sailing version of John Gardners, FATBOAT?

Kevin


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[Mike1902]

Re: The believed abstraction of a 12 foot clinker dinghy.

The sailing version of John Gardners, FATBOAT?

Kevin

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This boat is even fatter than the 13'7".

[Mike1902]

Re: The believed abstraction of a 12 foot clinker dinghy.

Cool project. Looks to be inspired by New England catboats. I'd be thinking of the Beetle Cat rig for her. 100 square feet on 12'4" by 6' hull weighing somewhere above 400 pounds.

Thanks Dave.Yes she certainly has the Catboat proportions.

I have toyed with the idea of a Cat rig along with a few others but I think I will be going with a balanced lug for camping and a gaff cutter rig for racing and general thrill seeking.

The image below is one I drew up calculating C of E's and CLR of a new rig using the current gaff main and jib.The shaded red area of the jib is the current sail in it's original position.
I have moved the tack of this jib back to the stem head,moved the mast a little aft,added a bowsprit and jib which will protrude 4 feet beyond the stem,then added a topsail to completely over power everything.
The centreboard I have moved aft also to balance everything.The new plate will have the profile of a Spitfire wing and I will probably readjust it's position.
The hull profile is in scale after a lot of measuring.

Now this is just a concept,plans and ideas change on a regular basis and usually come full circle.
The thing is,I like lots of sails and strings to pull.

I would be interested in opinions on this current plan.
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[Chris249]

Re: The believed abstraction of a 12 foot clinker dinghy.

It doesn't look a million miles away from the Logan Silver Fern class.

[stromborg]

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Hmm. 12 foot dingy with a topsail?
Thrill seeking indeed. Looking forward to the video. Though I suppose with that much beam she'll stand up to a lot of canvas.

[Peerie Maa]

Re: The believed abstraction of a 12 foot clinker dinghy.

Hmm. 12 foot dingy with a topsail?
Thrill seeking indeed. Looking forward to the video. Though I suppose with that much beam she'll stand up to a lot of canvas.

You are not familiar with the Balmain Bugs then?

[stromborg]

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That is a new one on me. Fine for Sydney, but our local water temperatures are far below theirs. Over-canvased boats had more appeal when I was younger, back when I was more than willing to don a wetsuit mid-summer to go out Laser sailing. Now I'd rather stay in the boat.

[Mike1902]

Re: The believed abstraction of a 12 foot clinker dinghy.

It doesn't look a million miles away from the Logan Silver Fern class.

I've even had someone say that it looks like a butchered X Class.

All in all,it is what it is and with that beam and that sheer she shows a bit of character,it's what caught my eye.

[Mike1902]

Re: The believed abstraction of a 12 foot clinker dinghy.

Hmm. 12 foot dingy with a topsail?
Thrill seeking indeed. Looking forward to the video. Though I suppose with that much beam she'll stand up to a lot of canvas.

Ah yes, I'm definitely counting on that beam to help me out,that plus a hefty crew depending on the day.Will be an interesting exercise,one that I'm looking forward to.

[Mike1902]

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Well after the paint was removed I took stock of the needed repairs.

The rot was mainly contained in the aft area by the transom where fresh water had been allowed to pool.Even though the bung had been removed, dirt and debris had blocked the hole.
There were a couple of soft patches up by the centreboard case but other than that I was pleasantly surprised by the overall condition... of the hull.
The deck however was a right off and I've already given my view about that transom.

So off it came.
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[Slacko]

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The first 2 photo's she looks pretty chunky and heavy.
The photo of her being carried through the door shrinks her considerably, then the bare hull shows her true potential.
Enjoy the process. I'm looking fwd to the sailing photo's.
I was looking at a Wagstaff 4.4 at the club yesterday.
Nice, powerful fast two man trapeze skiff from a known designer, but only 3 got built as it didn't take off as a class.
It raced in the open dinghy class against the 420's, lasers and other random bits and bob's.
This one is most likely a similar story of a nice design that didn't break into the mainstream.

[Mike1902]

Re: The believed abstraction of a 12 foot clinker dinghy.

The first 2 photo's she looks pretty chunky and heavy.
The photo of her being carried through the door shrinks her considerably, then the bare hull shows her true potential.
Enjoy the process. I'm looking fwd to the sailing photo's.
I was looking at a Wagstaff 4.4 at the club yesterday.
Nice, powerful fast two man trapeze skiff from a known designer, but only 3 got built as it didn't take off as a class.
It raced in the open dinghy class against the 420's, lasers and other random bits and bob's.
This one is most likely a similar story of a nice design that didn't break into the mainstream.

She looks to have been designed as a fun character dinghy with no intention of racing.A safe beamy family dinghy.
She will be a great camping boat with good volume for it's size and a safe conservative rig (balanced lug I think).
There will however be a sport option.We will see how that goes.