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    I need to fashion a mast traveller for the main halyard on my Caledonia Yawl's balanced lug rig. Classic Marine sells them (http://www.classicmarine.co.uk/boats...ID=84&P_ID=322), but I can't abide their price or the wait. Can someone who has one please tell me what size/gauge bronze rod they are made from?
    Steve

    Caledonia Yawl ~ Swallow
    Nutshell Pram ~ Amazon

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    Re: Lug rig mast travellebr />
    A question more than an answer but did you try this setup?

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    • #3
      Re: Lug rig mast travellebr />
      I should think that 1/4 to 3/8 rod would be OK. I don't like the look of Murray's double hook design, I would prefer both hooks to be in line.
      It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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      • #4
        Re: Lug rig mast travellebr />
        Originally posted by JimD
        A question more than an answer but did you try this setup?

        I was introduced to this style by Michael Storer. I now have it on two boats. Quite pleased with it. Easy, inexpensive, and quite effective. You can get the particulars at his web site.
        David G
        Harbor Woodworks
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        • #5
          Re: Lug rig mast travellebr />
          Originally posted by David G
          I was introduced to this style by Michael Storer. I now have it on two boats. Quite pleased with it. Easy, inexpensive, and quite effective. You can get the particulars at his web site.
          I just rigged my new mast with it for the first time yesterday. Worked like a charm.
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          • #6
            Re: Lug rig mast travellebr />
            I think they're doing that on the SCAMP too.

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            • #7
              Re: Lug rig mast travellebr />
              Originally posted by JimD
              A question more than an answer but did you try this setup?

              Actually I did try this rig and found I don't have enough mast height above the yard for it. I couldn't raise the boom high enough, otherwise I liked it a lot. So I have to go with a traveller of some sort. I have a couple design ideas to try before I fall back on the traditional version ala Classic Marine. One involves making a delrin hoop for brass jib hank, but I am not sure the jib hank will be strong enough. Labelled breaking strength is 630 lbs; sail area is 146 sq.ft. Just thinking about a catastrophic failure of the halyard gives me the willies. I thought I would also try fitting a delrin hoop to a 9mm SS s-hook, which should be plenty strong, though not as elegant.
              Steve

              Caledonia Yawl ~ Swallow
              Nutshell Pram ~ Amazon

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              • #8
                Re: Lug rig mast travellebr />
                Steve
                I had a local welder make mine out of 5/16" stainless.
                Tim Marchetti
                CNC Routing & Design
                www.cncroutinganddesign.com

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                • #9
                  Re: Lug rig mast travellebr />
                  FWIW, I bought one of the Classic Marine travellers for my CY only to find out that I did not have enough mast to use it either .... so a traveller may not solve your problem. I ended up just tying the halyard to the yard and that stays on permanently. Then I use a parrel with beads that I tie on to keep the yard close to the mast. It's simple, cheap and it works.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Lug rig mast travellebr />
                    I'm doing something similar to Scott, except that I'm using a toggle and eyesplice rather than parrel with beads. Same result - simple, cheap, and works.
                    Al

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                    • #11
                      Re: Lug rig mast travellebr />
                      Too gain a bit more hoist you can omit block #3 and run the halyard through a bee-hole athwart the top of the mast.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Lug rig mast travellebr />
                        Originally posted by Canoeyawl
                        Too gain a bit more hoist you can omit block #3 and run the halyard through a bee-hole athwart the top of the mast.

                        Or a ss u-bolt facing aft.
                        David G
                        Harbor Woodworks
                        https://www.facebook.com/HarborWoodworks/

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                        • #13
                          Re: Lug rig mast travellebr />
                          Thanks, guys. I already have a masthead sheave. There just wasn't enough headroom for a Storer-style rig. I think I should (barely) have enough room for one of the travellers I fashioned yesterday, but I have to wait for a little less wind before hoisting it on the trailered boat. Dryland knockdowns - another scary topic.
                          Steve

                          Caledonia Yawl ~ Swallow
                          Nutshell Pram ~ Amazon

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                          • #14
                            Re: Lug rig mast travellebr />
                            Hi Steve
                            What about making the mast a little longer? You still could scarf on a piece at the top.
                            If it is allready a bit short, it might be way to short when you start to pull the downhaul and the sail beginns to stretch a bit while sailing.
                            Max

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                            • #15
                              Re: Lug rig mast travellebr />

                              Here is my current working solution. A delrin hoop on a SS S-hook. The hoop perimeter is 3/8" X 3/8" with a tab for the angled hole that the S-hook fits through. When this traveller is raised to the sheave, the boom seems to have a fair amount of clearance for downhaul tensioning (etc). Only time will tell if it is enough.

                              Max, adding length to the top of mast would be difficult due to its hollow birds-mouth construction. I would just build a new one if it comes to that. But I doubt it will.
                              Steve

                              Caledonia Yawl ~ Swallow
                              Nutshell Pram ~ Amazon

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