Actually the "no feet" remark was aimed at berths that come to point....well my feet are size 13 and there's two of em.....they need space, and if they don't get it I am some cranky in the morning. I do applaud those who admit their bunks are less than 6' long, but I can only shake my head at Ranger tugs where they craftily pile pillows in the bow bunk so you can't see there's no foot room up there.....Also "Full Headroom" to me means 6'4" minimum under the beams....I rarely see that.....Billy Atkin thought full headroom was 5'10" under the beams....but he was a little guy.......
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Actually the "no feet" remark was aimed at berths that come to point....well my feet are size 13 and there's two of em.....they need space, and if they don't get it I am some cranky in the morning. I do applaud those who admit their bunks are less than 6' long, but I can only shake my head at Ranger tugs where they craftily pile pillows in the bow bunk so you can't see there's no foot room up there.....Also "Full Headroom" to me means 6'4" minimum under the beams....I rarely see that.....Billy Atkin thought full headroom was 5'10" under the beams....but he was a little guy.......___________________________________
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cogge ketch Blackfish
cat ketch Ratty
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I noticed this also. If the measurement is to the tip of the berth against the stem, you might as well subtract a foot or so to come to the actual useable length.
Actually the "no feet" remark was aimed at berths that come to point....well my feet are size 13 and there's two of em.....they need space, and if they don't get it I am some cranky in the morning. I do applaud those who admit their bunks are less than 6' long, but I can only shake my head at Ranger tugs where they craftily pile pillows in the bow bunk so you can't see there's no foot room up there.....Also "Full Headroom" to me means 6'4" minimum under the beams....I rarely see that.....Billy Atkin thought full headroom was 5'10" under the beams....but he was a little guy.......Comment
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Looks like a nice design and I have no doubt it would be completely functional and do everything I need, but I am not really sold on the rounded transom/tug boat look.
It is starting to look like I am going to have to make some compromises since there isn't one plan out there that really has exactly what I am looking for.
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What do you mean by saying the Timbercoast Troller 22 is a "complex build"? Is it a difficult design to build?Comment
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Looks like a nice design and I have no doubt it would be completely functional and do everything I need, but I am not really sold on the rounded transom/tug boat look.
It is starting to look like I am going to have to make some compromises since there isn't one plan out there that really has exactly what I am looking for.There is no rational, logical, or physical description of how free will could exist. It therefore makes no sense to praise or condemn anyone on the grounds they are a free willed self that made one choice but could have chosen something else. There is no evidence that such a situation is possible in our Universe. Demonstrate otherwise and I will be thrilled.Comment
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Hi Jim,
As a relative neighbour, Heriot Bay, Quadra Island, I thought I'd mention the boat that I am currently building as a contender for this category: namely my Glen-L 'HERCULES" semi-displacement trawler. I hope to be launching in 2012.
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One version of a Hercules:
There is no rational, logical, or physical description of how free will could exist. It therefore makes no sense to praise or condemn anyone on the grounds they are a free willed self that made one choice but could have chosen something else. There is no evidence that such a situation is possible in our Universe. Demonstrate otherwise and I will be thrilled.Comment
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To build the TimberCoast......(short version)
1) No lofting required
2) Build the strong back
3) cut out and erect the ply bulkheads
4) laminate stem & stern post and erect.
5) laminate inner keel, deadwood and shaft log and erect.
6) Install chine log and sheer clamp
7) Install longitudinal stringers.
8) Fair the frame
9) scarf and install bottom and topside ply sheathing
10) Sheath entire hull with dynel or glass cloth
11) Fair again
12) prime
13) paint
14) turn upright
15) Remove strongback
16) Tape bulkheads to hull sheathing
17) install floors and engine beds
18) prime and paint
That's 20% of the construction completed. Now you have sole and deck framing, sheathing with ply and glass of same, trunk cabin, trunk top, pilothouse, PH top, windows and door, interior, tanks, systems (electrical and plumbing), engine installation, steering, rigging and spars, exterior trim, deck fittings....and so on.___________________________________
Tad
cogge ketch Blackfish
cat ketch Ratty
http://www.tadroberts.ca
http://blog.tadroberts.ca/
http://www.passagemakerlite.comComment
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I am a huge Devlin fan, and of the designs you picked for yourself I like the litl coot best. You don't mention the budget but I would think that design would cost quite a bit to build. CMD Yachts has some nice designs and the standard 18 Redwing was always one of my favorites. http://www.cmdboats.com/rw18.htm?car...2c90dec49d846b Although they have other suitable designs for what you have in mind.Comment
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Doing some quick scaling of another boat I came up with a 19'6" by 7'6" full displacement boat with full headroom (6'3" minimum). This boat gets decent sole width only 2" above the hull bottom because there is a central flat strake (dory style, but this is no dory). By having the cabin sole as low as possible we keep the boat from looking too tall and ungainly(IMO).
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Tad
cogge ketch Blackfish
cat ketch Ratty
http://www.tadroberts.ca
http://blog.tadroberts.ca/
http://www.passagemakerlite.comComment
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Would that sole be high enough to provide room for plumbing or does it run along the sides? Looks good!
What would the power requirements be for that design Tad?Comment
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At any rate the plumbing from water tank to sink will be well above sole and a direct connection through the bulkhead. Other than a bilge pump pickup there should be nothing in the bilge.
For power I'm suggesting 8HP as the minimum, and the Yamaha 8HP High-Thrust as a decent choice. Beyond that I'll say about 25HP is the max but about 15HP is the most she can use and that is mostly digging a hole. 6.5 knots is about as fast as she'll efficiently cruise.___________________________________
Tad
cogge ketch Blackfish
cat ketch Ratty
http://www.tadroberts.ca
http://blog.tadroberts.ca/
http://www.passagemakerlite.comComment
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Has no one mentioned Blue Jacket Boats? Worth a look!
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Has no one mentioned Blue Jacket Boats? Worth a look!
http://www.bluejacketboats.com/
Looks like a great design though.Comment
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Do you have to build?
You say you prefer larger designs.
Here is a 30' Monk for sale, with a great big easy chair to sit in in case your engine goes kaput and you have to wait for a tow.
Only five large as Tony would say.
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