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    I sailed with Joe D. on his Weekender, and it was a fun little boat. We got beat up a bit. It was really blowing. Fumbled with the reefing, at least I did. Small lake, but it was really blowing! Did I mention it was really blowing? It must have been gusting thirty. The boat did fine. Everything you'd want a little boat to do. It's a good thing it was fairly well mannered in the breach, because we weren't. To be clearer about that, Joe and I got along fine, it was the little boat in the breach.

    It's not what I would build if I were looking for such a day boat. One of the Core Sound designs if I were looking in ply and didn't give a twig about tradition.
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    I can see that the Weekender and Pocket Cruiser are good boats for those who want to trailer it to rivers and small lakes for camping in good weather, and don't have a big enough car to tow heavier boats. Which of course would become an issue should one add a ballast keel.

    Had I still lived by the riverside I would be very tempted to build one.
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    Thank you for that (following) most insightful and informative review based on your excellent background! I can wholeheartedly recommend for more realistic sailing (no pun intended, really!) especially where you might want to tack to weather, or sail in windy weather, the San Francisco Pelican. Also the Great Pelican, though I have never sailed the GP. Both designed by Capt. William Short.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Diebert View Post
    I adopted one of these boats a few years ago.
    A friend of mine built it over one winter, scared himself....and traded me for an old motorcycle.
    I sailed it for part of a summer in it's stock configuration. Over a couple of years I altered the boat until it actually became a functioning sailboat. Once I had it sorted I had a lot of fun with it. (I sold it a couple of years ago)

    As someone said.....this design and these boats are defended to the death. I could never sort that one out. I have no clue what they have based this strong following on.....my guess would be the whole Warner Brothers cartoon pirate ship vibe I expect.

    Mine would not tack without a paddle. That deep 'forefoot'....which is really just an outer strong back / former that is never removed......seemed to prevent the boat from coming smartly around. Once I removed that, it tacked nicely. Plus beaching the boat became easier / safer and it went on and off the trailer easier.

    These boats might have some magic aspect to them that mine didn't, but I don't see too many sailboats that don't have some form of lateral resistance. The defenders swear their boats are on rails to wind. I could feel and actually see the leeway on mine. I added a case and dagger board. I made the case a bit long which allowed some adjustment fore/aft. This made for a slightly adjustable CLR ....which worked out wonderfully. With a new rudder, some 180# of lead bread, and a new light weight Spruce mast the boat became a sailboat. (the stock mast is *HUGE)

    The thing is, these boats attract first time sailors and first time builders. The building process is quite unconventional and designed to be put together by folks with almost no experience with working wood.
    So you then have a combination of super pride in accomplishment (first or near first woodworking project completed) and their first sailing experiences.

    I am 52 and have been a professional woodworker for over 30 years. (I now teach Joinery apprentices) A few of those years were spent repairing and building boats at the coast. I have sailed since I was 20. When this little boat came to me it was brand new and shiny, I was 8 hours from the coast and boatless....and had a guy who offered my this boat for a bike I could not sell. I figured...."how bad could it be".....anything that didn't work or that could go wrong I would fix. And I did.

    I recommend looking at other designs that are more serious. For all the work one puts into a small boat I would want a solid and well respected design. I suggest looking into anything by John Welsford and the other designers Thorne mentioned.

    You asked.

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    Blimey! Someone just had to dig up this old Weekender thread. But I'm sure you will be forgiven as you are new to the forum. Welcome, peterbmetcalf

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    Blimey again, my first build was a weekender. Yes it was pretty and yes it was very easy to build(cheap too) BUT it scared the ever lovin s#@t out of my wife and I, It ended up at the local dump, because I felt guilty about selling it to someone else. I thought about donating it to a Mini golf facility. The dump was the best option. My only regret is that I did not cut out huge pieces out of the hull before I dropped it off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimkeen View Post
    Blimey again, my first build was a weekender. Yes it was pretty and yes it was very easy to build(cheap too) BUT it scared the ever lovin s#@t out of my wife and I, It ended up at the local dump, because I felt guilty about selling it to someone else. I thought about donating it to a Mini golf facility. The dump was the best option. My only regret is that I did not cut out huge pieces out of the hull before I dropped it off.
    Wonder if the Stevenson's website would like to use this quote for their testimonials section?

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    As much as my Id would like to get into the Stevenson fray, I probably won't. Life is short.
    Has anyone asked (I've not read all this thread) if Mark has taken any sailing lessons? It seems to me that building a boat ought to come after learning to sail. Mark may find he loathes sailing. It does take a bit of getting used to. My dear wife is unsettled at best by rail down balls-to-the-wall sailing. It however strikes me as fun on occasion. If he wants sidewalk-solid stability, sailing may not be so fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Robb View Post
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    Has anyone asked... if Mark has taken any sailing lessons?
    Mr Mark hasn't posted on this thread since 2008. Perhaps he's taken up golf instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimD View Post
    Wonder if the Stevenson's website would like to use this quote for their testimonials section?
    LOL. I was once roundly excoriated for dissing the Weekender on a Stevenson-centric forum. I've sailed in company with 4 or 5 different boats Stevenson designs including a couple weekenders, a vacationtioner, and a skipjack. Not a one of them sailed worth a damn.

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    Well isn't this ad timely? For sale, Stevenson Weekender. Only sailed once! http://www.usedvictoria.com/classifi...lboat_16856304

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    Hmmm. . . .this is an old thread. And re-reading what I wrote about 'em 4 years ago, it's obvious that I completely missed the beat. I was way too harsh on these poor boats. Where else are you going to find a boat that combines such a cramped cockpit with such a tiny cabin, and which pairs sub-mediocre windward performance with absolutely negligible secondary stability and seaworthiness? The Stevenson Weekender is such an amazing blend of traits. Plus, you can build it yourself at home out of job-site salvaged CDX, bondo and chopped-strand mat, just like one I saw under construction in Portland, and it won't make a damned bit of difference to the value of the finished product. Now you've got to agree, that's a pretty remarkable feat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Bell View Post
    I was once roundly excoriated for dissing the Weekender on a Stevenson-centric forum.
    Me too. Most of them (not all) are pretty-much amateurs as we've seen, and I thought maybe I could contribute something useful to the different discussions they might be having. But there was one bloke there (definitely an amateur) who seemed to think he was Mr Stevenson Boats and did his level best to put everyone else in their Proper Places, below his own personal salt-cellar.

    So after a while I left them to it.

    The better ones have found their way to better forums (like this,) and the duds are no doubt still being beaten over the head there by Mr Boats and his salt-cellar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James McMullen View Post
    Hmmm. . . .this is an old thread. And re-reading what I wrote about 'em 4 years ago, it's obvious that I completely missed the beat. I was way too harsh on these poor boats. Where else are you going to find a boat that combines such a cramped cockpit with such a tiny cabin, and which pairs sub-mediocre windward performance with absolutely negligible secondary stability and seaworthiness? The Stevenson Weekender is such an amazing blend of traits. Plus, you can build it yourself at home out of job-site salvaged CDX, bondo and chopped-strand mat, just like one I saw under construction in Portland, and it won't make a damned bit of difference to the value of the finished product. Now you've got to agree, that's a pretty remarkable feat!
    Very good points

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    Just found this online. It's not me selling it.

    For sale about 1 hour north of S.F.:



    Stevenson Triad, $595. Includes trailer, electric motor, sail, rig, oars...

    As a pretty powerboat for lake fishing I think that's quite a deal. I was so surprised by the looks of the boat and the price that I spent time trying to figure out what it was and if it was any good (not that I need another boat!)

    I think we can enjoy any wooden boat, within its limitations. And any wooden boat out on the water makes me smile.

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