Hi gary ...so that's the 1/2' bolt !
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Hi gary ...so that's the 1/2' bolt !'' You ain't gonna learn what you don't want to know. ''
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That's it. It shouldn't lift or twist with that through it. The aft and forward bolt holes have stainless steel sleeves in them to reduce any wear. The stainless tube came from an old towel rack I found in the old shed.Without freedom of speech, we wouldn't know who the idiots are.Comment
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Gary I will be using the Hasler-MacLeod design with 8% camber in each panel.4 parallel panels and 3 top panels. The lower top panel will be sheeted.
There is a problem with the Reddish with the battens getting behind the mast when reefing. I had originally decided to go with the Fenix rig as I like the shape but I was talked out of it. I may have mentioned it before but if you go to the files section of the JR forum and look at Arne's files you will find a goldmine of info on building cambered sails. Camber will improve your windward performance.
How's your Badger going?Without freedom of speech, we wouldn't know who the idiots are.Comment
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yes, have been through all of Arne's stuff.
Strangely, I've only ever read about problems with the Hasler-Macleod design. No windward performance when more than a few panels are reefed, it all weather vanes behind the mast. There's a chap I'm in contact with cruising the Atlantic now who also has that complaint. I'm sticking with Reddish and closely following the junks shown in Hong Kong photos on that website you posted.
My Badger hull is mostly planked. Its looking pretty spiffy at the moment.Comment
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I cut a 100mm hole through the foredeck the other day and dropped a length of PVC pipe down into the step...sort of a pretend mast It will help me get the mast partner flange located correctly.Without freedom of speech, we wouldn't know who the idiots are.Comment
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ok, I wasn't having a go about your choice of design, was wanting to know about the pros & cons. I'll be mindful of how the battens stack as they are reefed.
Re my hull: I'll have to get pics of it, its under cover right now.Comment
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I didn't think you were. I had planned to use the Fenix rig but was talked out of it because of the batten problem. It seems there are 3 variants on the Hasler/MacLeod rig. 1 is the standard design as in the book, panels cut flat. 2 is the with the panels cut flat but fitted with hinged battens and 3, the one I'm going with is straight battens but the panels have 8% camber cut into them.
There is a design in develpment where a slot is cut vertically in each panel at the mast. All panels have camber cut into them. This will explain it better than I can.
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not traditional looking enough...Without freedom of speech, we wouldn't know who the idiots are.Comment
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FWIW I also have Van Loan's "Design and Build your own Junk Rig", (which predates PJR), which I might use. My mind changes every month...Comment
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it wasn't published till 2001.Without freedom of speech, we wouldn't know who the idiots are.Comment
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the camber is easy to put in when you make the sail just take a dart at each batten.
the hinged battens are a bit more difficult. me I plan on putting in some camber and the gurney flap. the camber just for the small performance boost and the gurney flap cause it reduces the chance of hang ups and adds performance. both are easy to do on home built sails so there seems to be no down side.Ernie
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Damn, my edition of "Voyaging.." makes no reference to earlier print..
The 24' sloop we sail now always has a foot or more camber in the sails regardless of how tight its sheeted, reefed or not, pretty silly to make a junk sail without it. Hinged battens probably makes the best shape, just dont think i can trust hinges of my own making..
Anyway, final decision on sail plan is a long way off, yet to finish the hull (laminated another 2 sheets today).Last edited by GaryK; 04-01-2009, 10:12 AM.Comment
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