Sockeye in Pt Townsend

[tokalou]

Any one know about this boat? I saw it this weekend in Pt Townsend.
Or even better, if the owner is reading, could you post some specs and interior photos. I just love this boat boat !

-thanks

[cmorse]

A person who goes by 'barnguy' owns Sockeye, unless he has sold her in the immediate past. Sean Tracey is his name and he has been on the forum (using 'barnguy') in the past but I haven't seen him on here lately. He lives in Pennsylvania and travels out to Port Townsend to use her. The conversion was done in Port Townsend but I can't remember by whom; I have both of their business cards someplace at home. The conversion was just about completed in 2004; he had planned to come north with us as far as Ketchikan when we brought Lean-To up to Seward,but he was unable to schedule it. So the flotilla was Josephine (owned by Sam Devlin), Lean-To (converted by Devlin and bought by me), and Moon Glow, a Devlin-built Black Crown. A three-part story that appeared in NW Yachting is on the FineEdge.com website and covers the trip as far as Ketchikan. My son and I continued on to Seward alone. Anyhow, Sean had talked at one point about trucking Sockeye across to the Chesapeake, where he would only have a couple of hour commute to use her but I guess he decided not to. That's all I know; unfortunately I didn't take any internal pictures when I was on board.

[BrianW]

The wife and I have been looking at similar boats recently. We used to have a 65ft wood fishing boat, but think something around 45ft would be easier to handle.

Did you guys see the article on Veteran in the magazine?

[BETTY-B]

There sure are some sweet conversions around. Sockeye being one of them. Petrel is out on linear dock now too(WB #169).

"Did you guys see the article on Veteran in the magazine?"
Yes indeed. I'd like to see more of that stuff going on...

DAN

[SaltyD from BC]

Did you guys see the article on Veteran in the magazine?

Did I ever. I've been drooling over Veteran all month. What a bloody sweety.

We've got a few old school seiners like Veteran (much much narrower than the newer ones) and very efficient as was the style in the 30s and back. Sadly though, they are all pretty far gone...

ps - Sockeye is awfully nice to look at too

[neilm]

That Veteran article was cool. They mentioned they don't trust Douglas Fir for planking anymore. Is that true? Is there no boat building quality Douglas Fir left? How sad.

Neil

[SaltyD from BC]

There is good quality DF out there but less and less. What is harvested anymore is mainly 2nd growth with wide ring spacing and more knots..

[ron ll]

That Veteran article was cool. They mentioned they don't trust Douglas Fir for planking anymore. Is that true? Is there no boat building quality Douglas Fir left? How sad.

Neil

"Snoose" was originally built with full length Doug Fir planks, the builder having cut and milled the timber on his own property on Shaw Island in 1943. The island fir was so slow growing and tight that it is almost a hardwood. But any planks that need replacing now are usually done with yellow cedar.

[Yeadon]

White, gray, and blue. Three great colors to paint your boat. Snoose is fantastic.

[ron ll]

White, gray, and blue. Three great colors to paint your boat. Snoose is fantastic.

Thanks. Pretty tame color scheme. I like Sockeye's colors. Gutsy but still looks appropriate for the boat.

Speaking of colors and Devlin in the same thread, I think the color schemes he uses are some of the best around.

[Bobcat]

"Snoose" was originally built with full length Doug Fir planks, the builder having cut and milled the timber on his own property on Shaw Island in 1943. The island fir was so slow growing and tight that it is almost a hardwood. But any planks that need replacing now are usually done with yellow cedar.

I grew up on Shaw. Do you know who built the boat?

[ron ll]

I grew up on Shaw. Do you know who built the boat?

Art Hoffman, on Hoffman Cove. It was called Sinbad most of its life. The little museum on the Island has some info on it and I spoke briefly with Art's nephew a few years ago. As I understand it, Art built it for his own fishing use and then it was passed to the nephew (can't recall the nephew's name right now) who also fished it for several years. It was actively fishing up until about 10-12 years ago.

[Bobcat]

Art Hoffman, on Hoffman Cove. It was called Sinbad most of its life. The little museum on the Island has some info on it and I spoke briefly with Art's nephew a few years ago. As I understand it, Art built it for his own fishing use and then it was passed to the nephew (can't recall the nephew's name right now) who also fished it for several years. It was actively fishing up until about 10-12 years ago.

You were probably talking to Henry. There are (were) a number of Hoffmans and I knew that some of them built boats years ago. Ironically, the last Hoffmans on the island do not live on Hoffman Cove

[BrianW]

I'd love to have this one back...



...but she was too much money to keep (for just fun), and a bit too big for easy handling in the harbor.

[Grizz_]

Is Ginny C in Sitka there? Was she a COOP packer a while back? I think I delivered some salmon trips to her..,

[BrianW]

Yes, she's tendered in Sitka for several years at least. Also pot shrimped and longlined.

[ron ll]

Ginny C is a beauty. Sure you don't want to use her as a yacht?

[ron ll]

As long as this thread is workboats and Port Townsend, Dan if you are listening, what is the status of Betty B? Any current pix? In the water at Point Hudson yet?

[cmorse]

Yes, Sam has come up with some nice color schemes. I have kept the scheme he set up on Lean-To; it is predominately white and gray with a sea green upper rubrail, bronze green middle rail and a sea green boot stripe.

Brian, if you are looking to buy again, when you have a chance, pm me at the forum.

[BETTY-B]

As long as this thread is workboats and Port Townsend, Dan if you are listening, what is the status of Betty B? Any current pix? In the water at Point Hudson yet?

Ron,
BETTY-B is ready to splash. All I'm waiting for is the surveyor to finish up and get the passing grade over to the insurance guy. After 2-3 years, I've ended up with an awful lot of stuff in my "yard" around the boat. Drill presses, outboard cans, freezer, lawn mower(jk), etc... I did a run of stuff to my shop in Seattle late last night and am doing a last minute run to Fisheries before meeti ng the surveyor tomorrow again. If he doesnt get it to me by Friday afternoon, I'll have to wait until Monday. Only because I dont want to have to pay transient moorage when my regular moorage is paid already over at Pt. Hudson.

Oh, and although BETTY-B was made by a famous commercial boatbuilding company(Tacoma Boatbuilding Company), she was actually built as a yacht for the owner and founder of said company. The surveyor even asked her original use yesterday.

I'll do a before and after splash thread soon. Maybe a before after and then a splash too? None the less, tons of pics are coming...

DAN

[pcford]

I'll do a before and after splash thread soon. Maybe a before after and then a splash too? None the less, tons of pics are coming...

DAN

Good luck, Dan. I am sure she will look great.

As you allude...one of the stranger phenomena in the boatshop is the accretion of tools, material and junk which gather about the working area of the boat. One moves the boat and all the stuff is left. It's like a ghost of the project.

One spends a couple days tossing stuff and putting tools back where they belong.

Kinda bitter sweet.

[ron ll]

That's pretty exciting. Can't wait to see her cruising the local haunts.

"...she was actually built as a yacht for the owner and founder of said company."

Too bad. Guess we can't include you in the converted workboat crowd.

[BETTY-B]

Thanks Pat. She is indeed looking great. A friend is slapping more paint on every day. Many people have stopped by recently to say they have been watching and how good she's looking. Starting to feel pretty good.

"accretion"? Nice! I had to look it up.

A couple teasers. Of course this stuff is all painted in BETTY's custom colors now too. Before:



After:



During. Pretty much all of those planks have since been replaced:



After:



The new 12" bronze cleats. Cuz dang, when you are not in the boat yard, you have to tie the thing to a dock. Or so I hear:

[BETTY-B]

Too bad. Guess we can't include you in the converted workboat crowd.

No! I'm not crying! I just have something in my eye is all...

[Barnguy]

I know this is an older posting but the Sockeye wasn't mine. Actually I had the Vagabond....A 38' Double Ender that was worked on/converted by Greg Stupica at Lower Hadlock Shipwrights in PT. I'll try and post a picture of the Vagabond later.

[Bobcat]

"Snoose" was originally built with full length Doug Fir planks, the builder having cut and milled the timber on his own property on Shaw Island in 1943. The island fir was so slow growing and tight that it is almost a hardwood. But any planks that need replacing now are usually done with yellow cedar.

Did one of the Hoffmans build Snoose? I grew up part time on Shaw Island

[ron ll]

Did one of the Hoffmans build Snoose? I grew up part time on Shaw Island

Most definitely! She was built by Art Hoffman. I've talked to his nephew Henry Hoffman about it, and last summer while in San Juan Channel, we were hailed by the Vessel Assist boat. The skipper was Mike Hoffman and he recognized the boat from his childhood and wanted to chat. Cherie Christensen has also been good about sending me literature on the boat and the Hoffmans from the museum's archives. The boat was named Sinbad most of it's life. When did you live there?

Sorry I missed your post on this a couple of years ago.

Oh wait. We already had this conversation in 2008. Scroll up a bit.

[Bobcat]

By golly, we did have this conversation. We were on the island from 1968 to 1993. My parents had a cabin there and then retired there. Henry Hoffman milled the lumber for the cabin. Mike Hoffman and I went to Sunday school together. His mother was the teacher/minister. Cherie Christensen's husband Peter is a boat builder, Blind Bay Boatshop, was trained in Denmark, where he grew up. One of my brothers worked one summer with Loyal Hoffman who was Art's brother

Small world

[David G]

Ron,
BETTY-B is ready to splash. All I'm waiting for is the surveyor to finish up and get the passing grade over to the insurance guy. After 2-3 years, I've ended up with an awful lot of stuff in my "yard" around the boat. Drill presses, outboard cans, freezer, lawn mower(jk), etc... I did a run of stuff to my shop in Seattle late last night and am doing a last minute run to Fisheries before meeti ng the surveyor tomorrow again. If he doesnt get it to me by Friday afternoon, I'll have to wait until Monday. Only because I dont want to have to pay transient moorage when my regular moorage is paid already over at Pt. Hudson.

Oh, and although BETTY-B was made by a famous commercial boatbuilding company(Tacoma Boatbuilding Company), she was actually built as a yacht for the owner and founder of said company. The surveyor even asked her original use yesterday.

I'll do a before and after splash thread soon. Maybe a before after and then a splash too? None the less, tons of pics are coming...

DAN

Ohhhh... have you been working on a boat? <G>

Looking forward to the fotos!!!

[Y, Dave?]

Thanks. Pretty tame color scheme. I like Sockeye's colors. Gutsy but still looks appropriate for the boat.

Speaking of colors and Devlin in the same thread, I think the color schemes he uses are some of the best around.

Getting ready to paint my first boat. An eight foot John Gardener pram. Where could I find some of Devlin's color schemes?

[ron ll]

Getting ready to paint my first boat. An eight foot John Gardener pram. Where could I find some of Devlin's color schemes?

Tough question. They just don't show up as well in photos as they do in person. I looked at this page, but didn't see any of the color schemes I remember seeing on some of his boats at shows. I think he uses Kirby paints and colors, but not sure.

https://www.google.com/search?tbm=is....0.ZFz28rpmkbY

[Y, Dave?]

Thanks for the pictures. Any more would be appreciated.