Your dream replica(s)

[dhic001]

Imagine you had endless amounts of money, access to all the skills and materials needed, as well as labour to operate, what replica's would you build? The situation can only be a dream, but I'd do two things:

A fleet of Napoleonic Wars period ships of the line, fully armed with period guns, and fully trained in period naval warfare. Naturally I wouldn't be firing real cannonballs, (except at jetskis), but it sure would be fun.

I'd also like to see a fleet of coal fired, steam powered liners built, maybe the best of each decade, 1840s to 1920s. They would be done properly and would showcase what the world has lost in stylish ship design.

What would others do? Would you build just one boat, or a fleet? Let your imagination run wild people.

[seanz]

Here's a start to your fleet, for sale and about a million NZ dollars.
So if you win lotto on the weekend............



She's a replica of a ship that was at Trafalgar.

Me? I'd like replicas of a couple of local boats, the 19C steam powered torpedo boat from Lyttelton and the trading schooner Huia.
Amongst others.....

[seanz]

Here's the link to HMS Pickle
http://uk.yachtworld.com/core/listin...urrencyid=1005
For some reason I can't get the link on the same page as the picture.

[shamus]

Its not ships, its the men in them. I'd like to recreate my great great great grandfather, who, while a shark approached a man in the water ordered Gunner Clark to take a rope and jump on the shark. I'd like to recreate Clark too, who obeyed the order.

[Hwyl]

HMS Pickle was built in Russia out of non durable wood for a movie. You'd be getting a ton of headaches for a year or so, by which time you'd have mostly spores.

[Willin']

I'd stretch out an Araminta to about 42' ( or whatever length/ draft combination would allow 6'3 headroom without ruining that beautiful shape)and outfit her with a sit down cockpit, cruising acommodations and minimalist systems. Sort of a mini Tioga.

That would be an awesome coastal cruiser.

[Wild Dingo]

Id just like to replicate JohnB and sail Waione pretending to be a mad Kiwi with such a fine yacht as the gorgeous Waione... Thats the replica I want!

Not that Id REALLY want to look like JohnB Im far cuter than that git but just to... sail Waione...

[Andrew Craig-Bennett]

This:



She's the RCC "B" class canoe "Bubble" and in the 1920's my late father bought her for a fiver (with a hole in and no deck) rebuilt her and sailed her from London to Cambridge. Plans are in Linton Hope's edition of Dixon Kemp (she's a Linton Hope design).

[seanz]

HMS Pickle was built in Russia out of non durable wood for a movie. You'd be getting a ton of headaches for a year or so, by which time you'd have mostly spores.

Once again reality intrudes.........

[TimH]

how about a sailing exact replica of Cutty Sark or Thermopylae (or both )on which to spend a year or two sailing the old tea clipper routes?

[Andrew Craig-Bennett]

Tim, I have often thought that, rather than waste money on that embarrasing corpse at Greenwich, our National Lottery should build, in China, a replica of the Cutty Sark and one of the Thermopylae, using welded steel for the hulls, with modern watertight subdivision, and alloy masts, with Dacron sails, but without engines, and resume racing from Shanghai to London with tea.

[TimH]

Tim, I have often thought that, rather than waste money on that embarrasing corpse at Greenwich, our National Lottery should build, in China, a replica of the Cutty Sark and one of the Thermopylae, using welded steel for the hulls, with modern watertight subdivision, and alloy masts, with Dacron sails, but without engines, and resume racing from Shanghai to London with tea.

For the price of a month in Iraq it could easily be done.
And what a glorious thing it would be...

[johnw]

Mine's a small one. Una, the 16' catboat built by Bob Fish of New York and shipped to England, where she started the building of catboats in that country. Dixon Kemp published the lines, offsets and specs. It's the oldest catboat for which we have that kind of information.

[Bob Cleek]

No need to "stretch" Araminta. LFH did it for you several times over. Sounds like what you are talking about is LFH's Neria ketch, featured in "Sensible Cruising Designs."

[Dryfeet]

No need to "stretch" Araminta. LFH did it for you several times over. Sounds like what you are talking about is LFH's Neria ketch, featured in "Sensible Cruising Designs."

Yeah... but, not really. Neria is a larger, cruising version of a clipper bowed Herreshoff ketch. It's not really an enlarged Araminta. An enlarged Araminta is just the same lines scaled up until you can have headroom in the cabin and make the cockpit 'normal'. There's a difference in what you'd have. The Araminta is a 'smaller' boat than a Nereia. I'd take the larger Araminta over Nereia anyday. (or over a Tioga or Ticonderoga or...)

[BrianY]

I love to see a couple of these in action:



Reliance by N. Herreshoff

• Overall length: 200 ft
• Length at water line: 90 ft
• Beam (width): 26 ft
• Draft: 20 ft
• Displacement: 189 tons
• Mast height: Over 200 ft
• Sail area: 16,200 sq ft

Now THAT'S a "sail boat" !

[TimH]

I love to see a couple of these in action:



Reliance by N. Herreshoff

• Overall length: 200 ft
• Length at water line: 90 ft
• Beam (width): 26 ft
• Draft: 20 ft
• Displacement: 189 tons
• Mast height: Over 200 ft
• Sail area: 16,200 sq ft

Now THAT'S a "sail boat" !

Ill second that!

[Thorne]

http://www.british-towns.net/britain...ling_ships.asp

[TimH]

Looks a lot like Lady Washington

[John Meachen]

I would relish the chance to go to sea in an East Anglian beach yawl,preferably a large and fast example.I expect the lines or an old model exist somewhere.

[mmd]

(Note to lurkers and stalkers - please note that this posting is after-hours and does not mention any other shipyard. - mmd)

Mr. Cleek, Willin'; Might I suggest another "around 42-ft Herreshoff, the 45-ft Mobjack design? I was fortunate enough to be a part of the team that recreated her in the guise of Quark:







http://www.staugustinelighthouse.com..._a_ketch_1.php

http://www.ammfl.org/InTheNews.htm

[John B]

Glad you've still got your sense of humour Michael, some of the sniping at you recently has been despicable .

[mmd]

Thanks for the word of support, John. Sadly, those types of incidences are starting to turn my sense of humour more toward the cynical. I'll try to resist...

[John B]

There are cynical NA's enough out there already Michael, thats why they make giant running shoes that float. please hold out as long as you can.

Dream replica eh.
Well it used to be Westward but thats been done and now being on a boat I can't sail with a smallish crew is an anathama to me. So many.... Malabar IV, a proper Mobjack like Quark for cruising perhaps.
A trust to run 2 or three Auckland classic replicas would be totally cool. We've a turn of the century Logan sloop design called Sunbeam. 1900, fin keel , spade rudder, super light, big gaff rig......

[skuthorp]

Nat Herreshoff's Westward.

http://www.google.com.au/search?q=th...-1&btnG=Search
Link to a search, there's a 16 p PDF with great pix.
Bought a book on her 20 years ago, made half hull model and always intended to try a sailing model.

[Captain Blight]

Well, Vessel #1 wouldn't be a replica, but the original herself: SS United States at the peak of her heyday. I can't believe Norwegian Cruise Lines has let her get this far down.

Vessel #2, an Atkin Vega. Just-so in all the right ways.

Vessel #3, William Hand's Claire. Perhaps redone with blown, twin BMW M3 engines (stroker I-6, yum) and a monohedron bottom.

Vessel #4, Millenium Falcon. The Kessel run record needs to be re-defined.

Vessel #5 would be a replica of my grandfather's boat Hoover which fished out of the Puget Sound area from 1929 to 1992, when she lost power off Sitka and broke up in some kind of monstrous surf. I never knew her save through photos, would like to stand at her helm and feel the thrum of the Atlas coming up through the deck and the wind in my hair.....

[seanz]

Vessel #5 would be a replica of my grandfather's boat Hoover which fished out of the Puget Sound area from 1929 to 1992, when she lost power off Sitka and broke up in some kind of monstrous surf. I never knew her save through photos, would like to stand at her helm and feel the thrum of the Atlas coming up through the deck and the wind in my hair.....

Atlas Imperial?
I've heard two running at the same time.....marvelous.

[johnw]

Nat Herreschoff's Newport 29.

[Captain Blight]

Atlas Imperial?
I've heard two running at the same time.....marvelous.

Don't know. 6-cylinder, according to Mom, great big cylinders. She said that the crankshaft was pretty well a load for a 1939 Dodge pickup. I really don't know much, save that she was built in 1927 by the tacoma shipwright's co-op, fir on fir, and was still a producer when she went down.

[Andrew Craig-Bennett]

I would relish the chance to go to sea in an East Anglian beach yawl,preferably a large and fast example.I expect the lines or an old model exist somewhere.

You are not alone in that.

Half model in Southwold Mariners' Library.

I suspect it will happen presently.

[Willin']

(Note to lurkers and stalkers - please note that this posting is after-hours and does not mention any other shipyard. - mmd)

Mr. Cleek, Willin'; Might I suggest another "around 42-ft Herreshoff, the 45-ft Mobjack design? I was fortunate enough to be a part of the team that recreated her in the guise of Quark:


http://www.staugustinelighthouse.com..._a_ketch_1.php

http://www.ammfl.org/InTheNews.htm

Aye, it's a rare day that I don't thumb through Sensible Cruising Designs (it's on the vanity in the upstairs bathroom;-). There's a bunch o' beauties in there (the book, not the bathroom). I used to drool over Tioga as she moldered on her mooring in Newport Beach in the '70s. Neria and Mobjack are both fine boats too.

What I'm dreaming of has nothing to do with sensible though. Rather than take your usual set of cruising parameters, compromise as few as possible and then try to make it look good, my dream boat would start out to be heartstoppingly beautiful and then add in the bare essentials for cruising such that her true grace isn't distorted. As the bumper sticker says "Life's too short to own an ugly boat".

That's why I chose the stretch Araminta. She's all that, plus quick and sea kindly. I'm sure some modest accomodations could be arranged in there to add some small degree of comfort.

BTW John W, a Newport 29 named Rouge was first across the finish line at this year's Eggomoggin Reach Regatta. Even with the flukey conditions that was an impressive achievment against the likes of Valiant, Dorade and the Ws.

[Songololo]

I wouldn't say no to a Pilot Cutter. Here is a picture of the Ezra, built by Working Sail in England...

[Paul Pless]

What I'm dreaming of has nothing to do with sensible though. Rather than take your usual set of cruising parameters, compromise as few as possible and then try to make it look good, my dream boat would start out to be heartstoppingly beautiful and then add in the bare essentials for cruising such that her true grace isn't distorted. As the bumper sticker says "Life's too short to own an ugly boat".

I like the way you think.

BTW, you may be interested to know that Araminta is now available for day charter from Mystic Seaport. The very first charter of her occurred on the Sunday of the WoodenBoat Show. The price is $250.00 per day for 4 people. Its on my to do list.

link

[outofthenorm]

I'd go small. I'd have a setup much like the small boat livery and boatshop at Mystic - about a dozen different types and sizes of boat - different hulls and rigs, some pulling boats, a few launches - a good shop, stacks of materials, drawers full of plans, cool tools. There would be a spot on the deep end of the float for my cutter and a marine railway for hauling anything in the fleet. Oh, and a Concordia towboat based on Culler's Gracie. There would be space where friends could build new boats or work on old ones. Hire a couple of bright young kids to run the place and keep the boats in motion while I messed about.

Ahhhhhhh, peace. I'd never leave.

- Norm

[Rich VanValkenburg]

I've always liked the schooner America. I know there were at least two replicas built since 1967. I think the fin keel version was more true to the deck layout than the 1967 boat, but I can't find a comparison online. I see aspects of America in Araminta.

[johnw]

BTW John W, a Newport 29 named Rouge was first across the finish line at this year's Eggomoggin Reach Regatta. Even with the flukey conditions that was an impressive achievment against the likes of Valiant, Dorade and the Ws.

They are quick. Captain Nat used the model he made for the Buzzards Bay 25. Scaled it up, deepened the keel, and produced one of the fastest, most beautiful cruiser-racers ever built.

[paladin]

Although I like pilot cutters...I'm thinking something like a 30 foot version of Saskianna would be really nice....

[Willin']

I like the way you think.

BTW, you may be interested to know that Araminta is now available for day charter from Mystic Seaport. The very first charter of her occurred on the Sunday of the WoodenBoat Show. The price is $250.00 per day for 4 people. Its on my to do list.

link

Thanks Paul,

It'd be worth the price just to set foot on hull #1. Maybe next year.

[Paul Stohlman]

I've thought of building a copy of Boadicea (1808 Maldon Smack), as she was built originally. Clinker and engineless.

[johnw]

I've thought of building a copy of Boadicea (1808 Maldon Smack), as she was built originally. Clinker and engineless.

That should be a production boat.

[Spada]

You are not alone in that.

Half model in Southwold Mariners' Library.

I suspect it will happen presently.

Hello,

Do you know if there is any beach yawl replica being built presently?
I really like the model in the Southwold library, "Bittern" I think.

P.S. What happens to Bubble? My favorite replica would be "Kismet" also a Linton Hope design.

[WX]

Ron Glas....unfortunately she is now in a sad state.
Here's a link to some below deck photos.
http://www.caleyboats.co.uk/9/Sail-C...e-off-special-

[Larks]

Charles Nicholsons 1892 "Marigold"

[Woxbox]

With an unlimited budget, why look back when you can move ahead? This isn't exactly it, but I'd want to commission a top multihull designer to create a big trimaran that would outpace the power cruisers and be more comfortable, too.



As to the square-rigged dreams, there are lots of them out there, and they're always looking for volunteers. You can do that dream today, and for nothing.

[rbgarr]

[Dan McCosh]

Tim, I have often thought that, rather than waste money on that embarrasing corpse at Greenwich, our National Lottery should build, in China, a replica of the Cutty Sark and one of the Thermopylae, using welded steel for the hulls, with modern watertight subdivision, and alloy masts, with Dacron sails, but without engines, and resume racing from Shanghai to London with tea.

Or maybe with microchips, thus beating the carbon tax.

[Dan McCosh]

I thought I was building a replica, one new plank at a time.

[Todd D]

I think I would cold mold a Lake Union Dreamboat and power it with a modern diesel of about 55 hp.

[peter radclyffe]

Imagine you had endless amounts of money, access to all the skills and materials needed, as well as labour to operate, what replica's would you build? The situation can only be a dream, but I'd do two things:

A fleet of Napoleonic Wars period ships of the line, fully armed with period guns, and fully trained in period naval warfare. Naturally I wouldn't be firing real cannonballs, (except at jetskis), but it sure would be fun.

I'd also like to see a fleet of coal fired, steam powered liners built, maybe the best of each decade, 1840s to 1920s. They would be done properly and would showcase what the world has lost in stylish ship design.

What would others do? Would you build just one boat, or a fleet? Let your imagination run wild people.

an 1878 Payne yacht i used to live on, the 60' Sorceress at Wivenhoe, kauri pine deck, pitch pine on oak, a small copy of Galatea, fifes Latifa& Little Susanne , and Helping Hand, a rye smack, we used to own and Jolie Brise my dutch mate used to skipper

[Ethan]

Here's a start to your fleet, for sale and about a million NZ dollars.
So if you win lotto on the weekend............



She's a replica of a ship that was at Trafalgar.

Me? I'd like replicas of a couple of local boats, the 19C steam powered torpedo boat from Lyttelton and the trading schooner Huia.
Amongst others.....

That's like, what? $5 US now?
Cool boat!