Just fore the fun of it:)

[Sailor]

I can't seem to find any stations that still have the little clippy thing to allow you to let go of the pump and fill it. You have to hold the trigger down on most pumps. I presume in the full service lane they still have them but who wants to pay an extra 3 cents a litre for some guy to pump your gas? It's so unmanly to allow others to do the man chores around the house. And filling the gas tank must be considered at least a partially manly activity. Until you pull up to the full service lane that is.

[Chip Chester]

In the absence of the 'clippy thing' to hold open the pump, I usually just stick the gas cap in there sideways...

Chip

[Cogeniac]

Ryden;

I don't think that fire in the video was caused by static. The fuel filler was already in the filler pipe. It's probably from the stupid twit smoking...And here I though it was going to be because she was so hot! (OK, maybe not...), The captions say it was her sweater that caused the static. Seems a little off.

Here's a good one though:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wiUBCMdO7Y

Filling gas containers not placed on the ground is a really bad idea.. WHy does this guy run THROUGH the flames? One wonders....

Venting is good. It is also wise to use an ignition proof blower....In fact the AYBC requires that any electrical component in the fuel area (defined as something like less than 1 ounce of water seepage per hour at 12 inches of head pressure) must be ignition protected.

I was thinking about this today, and forgot to mention that static electricity seems to always be a product of friction. The water sliding past the boat hull, the gas sliding through the fuel line, the clouds sliding through the air...all result in static charge differentials and these can cause sparks.

I also realized that the static issue is probably much lower in salt water than fresh water, since salt water conducts much more (OTOH, the galvanic corrosion issue is higher).

I'm glad I went with diesel...

S

[Tom Freeman]

Hi Tom,


As a neophyte powerboater, I'm obviously lacking in the finer arts and remain open to any other tips you may have for keeping slack crew on their toes.

Crew management is a challenge, particularly when the crew thinks she wears the admirals hat. The first afternoon that we took Peaceful out, some friends photographed us not only with fenders out, but with a couple dragging in the water. Very lubberly. I am embarrassed for our little boat to have to experience the indignity. But we got a stern talking to by the saltier folks when we returned to the marina and are striving to do better with all of the little things that signal a well-kept yacht.

[P.L.Lenihan]

You asked!


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Now moving onto the more high tech solutions these look interesting. Much like the hood wranglers on my Jeep. A bit more pricey though at about $24.95 each.





Happy to oblige!

C'ya in a couple weeks. I've got a tyvek shirt with your name on it!

Rick (aka Gimpy the Boatbuilder)

See? I knew this would happen. Nifty ideas all found on the internet.Perhaps I should learn how to better describe what it is I am looking for next time! Thanks Rick for taking the time to set me straight. The hooks won't work because of the angle but the last item almost looks like it could work.


Merci Beaucoup!





Peter

[P.L.Lenihan]

Or, use a standard screw-eye to guide the rope at the center top, and a cleat* on the window frame.

* A cleat is a nautically-themed rope fastening device commonly found on floating objects (of all sizes) resembling boats.

Chip

Whaddya trying to do here Chip,keep me confused with all those fancy dancy nautical terms? Well, if you is, then it's almost working!

However, I should note that due to the odd shape of the window frame proper(not the opening part holding the glass) I cannot get a line to run straight enough to allow the window to be snugged down shut.

I can't wait to show Nat a new word for her,"cleat".


Cheers!


Peter

[P.L.Lenihan]

So without further ado, here's a pic of the ubiquotus swedish window clasp or fönsterhake (Hakus fenestrii ssp chromatica).



They are designed for outgoing windows (check), come in chrome or brass (check) and is about $1 each (checkety-check).
There are even fancier varieties for the la-di-dah crowd


This one has two positions, one closed and one ajar for some ventilation.


I'd gladly ship some over to you if you want, I think there are about a dozen sets at our summerhouse that was left over after a renovation.

Dear Ryden,

I have never seen anything as intriguing as these window devices, just for windows. I have been staring at them for the past few days and still fail to appreciate how the blazes they operate but apparently they do and do it well.

I certainly would not mind having one set just to see if I can understand how it works and whether or not it can be used on my two opening windows.

If they work, I would like to purchase the two postion la-di-dah version, as a Christmas present for Nat. If and when it is most convienient for you, could you fill me in on what your costs(shipping handling etc) would be for either the chrome plated or brass models via an e-mail. You've got me very much intrigued and what a nifty thing to have on the boat, all by itself! A constant reminder of someone I know in Sweden!




Cheers!


Peter

[P.L.Lenihan]

This is a perfect example of how Google Translate is completely off sometimes! .

Only "sometimes" ? Nah, alla da times dat stupid ting donna know how to translate nuttin!. Trust me! Besides, it's much betta ta take da posters' translation as correct, since he da one who heard it first and knows it best.


I think.



Cheers!


Peter

[P.L.Lenihan]

bow thruster ...... Is it really necessary? I guess Nathalie will have to decide if manuvering is too stressful.

And there we have it,Eric hits it right smack on the head! Nat is the one I serve to please and if she is too stressed out, boating ain't going to be much fun for this bum.So, any little thing I can do now to keep things stress free and manageable for her will pay off big time pour moi. In a perfect world, waiting just around the corner, she will be able to do all the boat handling and driving while I take repose with some fine Ports, Cubans and literature on the aft deck. I can hardly wait!



Cheers!


Peter

[P.L.Lenihan]

Ahhh, Peter, if I may suggest ? Cut the locking bar into two tabs. Screw the tabs to the window trim using oversized hole so the screw acts as an axle the tab can spin on. When you want to open jthe window, just flick the tabs out and lower the rope (line). To lock window, pull the row and flip the tabs in.

A better description may be - 1 lock the window with the bar. 2 drill holes thru bar to window trim. 3 screw bar to trim. 4 cut the middle 18 inches of the bar . 5 step back and admire your work with a cold beer.

I'll fill you in on the lack of progress on my Windermere build soon, but August is fast approaching.

That sounds like a most reasonable suggestion,particularily as it involves simply modifying the existing butchery already in place.However, as you have surely seen, there is a curious and nifty device from Sweden which bears looking into.

I so look forward to following your build once you get started openboater but with the heat and humidity of late, it is perfectly understandable to stall for cooler temps.


Cheers!



Peter

[P.L.Lenihan]

Bowthruster? You don't need no steenking bowthruster!

I just might, since you are not around to give some hands on,heads up, instruction,ya raskle . But, as has already been mentioned,Nats' comfort level is all that really matters.


Hope you've been out there often,paddling your arse off and showing off your fine canoe craft, Daniel. What a chick magnet too,never mind the LPBC!


Cheers!



Peter

[P.L.Lenihan]

Ground? Ground is the most important thing you should watch out fer in a boat.

Absolutely John! And the further away you watch it from , the better too! A good pair of Binocs will handle the fauna propagation situation survey from a safe distance too. Up here, cool pastel colours appear to be all the rage on the fairer of the species. Not that I'm counting or anything but there appears to be an increase in the incidence of monokini sporting and bikinin shedding.....although difficult to ascertain from the safe distance mentioned above. I'm asking for a telescope next Christmas, as a remedy to this hint of doubt!



Cheers!


Peter

[P.L.Lenihan]

You don't need a bow thruster.Pick up a trolling motor with 60lbs of thrust and a wireless remote control.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ag=manicycl-20

I see Ben is on the same page as myself. If we go "thruster", it will have to be something straight forward and simple like shown in his link and not one of those big permanent expensive bow thrusters most of know about. I am envisioning a host of woodbutchery solutions for its' installation too. Thanks Ben!



Cheers!



Peter

[P.L.Lenihan]

Mr. Lenihan Sir or Dear Sir Lenihan,
First big deal 1600RPM we want to see what happens at 5500 thanks.

Second how about a demountable rudder hung off the bow for those pucker moments, stowed under the aft deck when not required that way Nat can steer and push off at the same time plus the skipper can deny all responsibility and it would have the added bonus of providing your fellow marina dwellers hours of entertainment when going ahead. Then again perhaps next winter add a wee bow sked.

OK I'll go back to the shed now.

Mike

BoBo or Lemonbrains would do just fine Mike, none of this formality stuff.I have to save that for when I'm Captain and Lord High Admiral on my ship, spitting out orders, like a broken printer, to my crew.

I have to confess the 1600 RPM meteorite pass may appear a bit weak, considering my options. So we will ensure we have a full rack of dilithium crystals on board,later this week, with ice to match, when we attempt to speed backward through time at WOT. It will be revealing in so many ways:

1) Is the boat under-propped or over -propped?
2)Will she jump up on a plane or not?
3)What is my top warp speed?
4) Will my hair fall out,grow thicker or revert back to its' youthful dirty blond shade?
5) Will Nat still recognize me?


The bow hung rudder, I fear, will only add to the mayhem on board already with my orders from the helm, in both of Canadas' offical languages(Hinglish and broken Fawench) not helping matters at all. Besides, if I'm at the helm(up front) and Nat is holding the bow-rudder tiller(also up front), who will take care of the stern lines and check for aft clearances and all that as we move astern? Pretty scary ,if you ask me!


But all of this is nothing compared to the wickedly good stuff you produce while in your shed.I'm certain many stand, as do I, with our heads bowed and humbled! Please do return to your shed and bless us with some more photos of your art!



Cheers!



Peter

[Chip Chester]

Cogeniac, jumping back to the gas fire video...
I watched it through again (noticing the title for the first time) and took stock of her actions. Slide out of the car, touch only plastic to scan card, select grade, holding onto pump (plastic sleeve over metal) then back in car. Do (whatever), slide back out, adjust sweater, then "bam" right when she touches hose again. If the relative humidity is low, static can and does occur even at higher temperatures. I've noticed it from my leather upholstery and while wearing jeans. I've read that newer tires are less conductive (less carbon) than older tires, too. So, I'm staying with static. By habit, I always touch metal on the pump before picking up the hose.

On the boat front (Hi, thumbs!) the dual position latch looks quite nice. Has a bosun's whistle look to it, too. If you have compressible weatherstripping on the windows, you should probably pony up the bucks (loons?) for one on each side of the window. Maybe splurge for a spare or two, also.

Chip

[ben2go]

I see Ben is on the same page as myself. If we go "thruster", it will have to be something straight forward and simple like shown in his link and not one of those big permanent expensive bow thrusters most of know about. I am envisioning a host of woodbutchery solutions for its' installation too. Thanks Ben!



Cheers!



Peter

You're welcome.I had the idea for my boat and thought it may be an option for you.

[Cogeniac]

Chip; I was also surprised that the fire was so contained. I guess this is a feature of the little snap cover thingy in the fuel filler. It contains the fumes so that all you get is a little flame right at the filler, presumably from a little spilt gas. The hose obviously cuts off the fuel flow right at the nozzle as well. The same can't be said for the poor bastard in the video I posted the link for. He was filling (probably plastic) gas cans, and those generally have no snap cover (although the ones they sell here in CA have some insidious fume retention thing that basically assures that you will spill gas all over when trying to put gas FROM the can into your tank...thereby obviating the whole fume retention thing...ahh CARB....)

[Chip Chester]

I predict I would have over-thought the whole 'take it out/leave it in' decision, though. In your video, I'm wondering why folks ran past all the fire extinguishers to fan the flames with their shirts... Around here, they're on every post.

The pickup truck guy was probably also standing on a plastic bedliner, further ensuring his demise. Some of the local lawn services disregard the numerous warnings about not filling cans in the truck bed. After a few "hey, did you notice that sign?" conversations, I've taken to just driving around the block 'til they're finished.


Chip

[donald branscom]

Getting in and out of the car while fueling, generating static electricity. (Not anything to do with possible cell phone use, though.)

Chip

On edit: Hey, I got post #6000 in this thread!

Exactly. she got out of the car while playing with that sweater (did not touch the car), and touched the gas filler neck right where the fumes were coming out.

I give her credit for having courage for shutting off the fuel. Smart move.

[floatingkiwi]

Chip; I was also surprised that the fire was so contained. I guess this is a feature of the little snap cover thingy in the fuel filler. It contains the fumes so that all you get is a little flame right at the filler, presumably from a little spilt gas. The hose obviously cuts off the fuel flow right at the nozzle as well. The same can't be said for the poor bastard in the video I posted the link for. He was filling (probably plastic) gas cans, and those generally have no snap cover (although the ones they sell here in CA have some insidious fume retention thing that basically assures that you will spill gas all over when trying to put gas FROM the can into your tank...thereby obviating the whole fume retention thing...ahh CARB....)

Don't mean to correct you or sound like the know all that I think I am, but I believe, (you probably know this anyway, I just like to give myself a written reminder somewhere, why not Lemonheads thread?), it isn't the gas fumes that are as much of a problem as the air itself. Fire needs oxygen and there isn't any inside a full tank of gas or really close to even your unlit gas ring on full bore as you try to wear the meat on your thumbs down to bone with ya Bic Flic, trying to light the thing. I did that the other day. Now everyone thinks I am giving them the bones up when I sail past them.
Carburettors are born knowing they MUST suck oxygenated air into their venturi passageway before mixing it with fuel to make a combustable product . Or even they will flood the engine and even the spark plug can't ignite the rich mess.
Everyones probably heard this story , as I guess it happens everywhere often, and that is the sight of some guy in a shop working on a gas tank with a welder, and the gas tak is full. Of gas.
Having said that, the explosion would also be a direct result of just how much fume was spilled into the air, of course.

[Slacko]

All explosive gases have a maximum and minimum explosion limit when mixed with air. If there is too much gas it won't ignite, and if there is not enough gas it also won't ignite.
The spark needs to occur within probably a pretty narrow band of distance from the filler nozzle to be in the sweet spot to go bang.
The distance will also change with wind strength etc.

I worked at a methanol production plant where this stuff needs to be kept at the front of the mind at all times.
As a demonstration the on-site fire brigade did a demonstration of flammability.
A bucket with an inch of petrol in the bottom will extinquish a match like water will.
Methanol on the other hand exploded in a massive fireball as the match approached the bucket!
At the time the petrol demonstration was more surprising.

[Cogeniac]

Kiwi/Slacko;

Yeah, working on cars I have become aware of the air fuel thing. It must be the movies where we learn that you can stuff a rag in the gas filler, light it and walk away...and then the car explodes..sign.. I guess that's just in the movies!

One guy on a car forum a few years back related a time when he had finished tearing down an old wood barn on his property (apparently a pretty large out of the way place). He doused the wood with gasoline and then as he was walking away casually tossed a lit match back in the direction of the wood pile. He said the first thing he thought was "HOT!!" and the second thing was "no air!!". Apparently the gas fumes, being heavier than air, had started to drift out and around the wood pile. So he was basically walking with his feet in gas fumes. He did note that his friends said it looked very cool as this huge fireball went up and he came running out of it! Very "Backdraft"...Apparently it burned a circle about 40 feet in diameter in the weeds.

So, my observation about the blue sweater video was that I was surprised how effectively the filler hose and the door thing in the fill tube cut down the fumes. Otherwise that girl would literally have been toast!

[M. J. Notigan]

The above stories are scary enough. The thought of a static electrical spark setting off a fire or explosion on a boat would be devastating. West Marine sells grounding plates for electronic AND electrical grounding/bonding systems. The bronze plates are made by Guest, a well known company.

Here is a link to their Guest Dynaplate Bronze Grounding Plate: http://www.marinco.com/files/support.../dynaplate.pdf

That Coast Guard building standards manual that I sent in an earlier link on this topic states that any metallic fuel fill neck has to be grounded from the neck to the water to dissipate any possible static electrical charge. This is a topic that is little talked about and it's great to see everyone coming aboard to it. One more reason to like a diesel, for sure! I am hoping that Peter has found that qualified Marine Electrician as he said he would in an earlier post on this subject! This elecrical stuff is important to get right as we need to keep the smoke IN the wires and not outside of them!!!

Take Care,
Mike

[Ryden]

Hi Peter

The fastener work on the cam principle, to close the window you pull on the ring and when the window hits the frame you can just about slide the window mounted part over the sort of hammerhead-looking thing on the frame.
As you pull the ring end downwards it cams on the hammerthing and squeezes the seal a bit and locks in the down position.
I'll send you one to play with, I still have the box my hat came in in the small shrine in my workshop designated to La Mère Merlot so I should have your adress.
I'll get back to you regarding the la-di-dahs.

As for the science of petrol station fires y'all have posted the right answer.

She's probably wearing synthetic fiber clothing and she doesn't touch anything after getting out of the car again.
Me, I wear jeans, cotton shirts and leather boots and have to grab the car door as I dismount (can you say grounded?) so I'm safe (-ish)

The fine weather has finally arrived over here after weeks and weeks of rain and cold, 28C and sun tomorrow so I'm off sailing!

Edit:
The double position la-di-dahs come in brass or nickle, same price for both.
The nifty store in central Stockholm has them for $20 each, I can get them from Finland for $5 each and I can probably pick them up locally for under that price.
You need two per window.

Edit2:
All that talk about hammers made my head hurt so I made a movie instead

[P.L.Lenihan]

The above stories are scary enough. The thought of a static electrical spark setting off a fire or explosion on a boat would be devastating. West Marine sells grounding plates for electronic AND electrical grounding/bonding systems. The bronze plates are made by Guest, a well known company.

Here is a link to their Guest Dynaplate Bronze Grounding Plate: http://www.marinco.com/files/support.../dynaplate.pdf

That Coast Guard building standards manual that I sent in an earlier link on this topic states that any metallic fuel fill neck has to be grounded from the neck to the water to dissipate any possible static electrical charge. This is a topic that is little talked about and it's great to see everyone coming aboard to it. One more reason to like a diesel, for sure! I am hoping that Peter has found that qualified Marine Electrician as he said he would in an earlier post on this subject! This elecrical stuff is important to get right as we need to keep the smoke IN the wires and not outside of them!!!

Take Care,
Mike

Hi Mike,


Scary stories indeed! Yes, someone else will be doing my actual wire hook ups( a carded technician).All I have done is run the wires through the conduits to the dashboard at the helm.

Also, have been enjoying reading the contents of this particular link:

http://newboatbuilders.com/pages/electricity1.html

which I found on fellow forum member Tom Larkin's excellent blog about his exquisite Devlin tug build;

http://www.devlinboat.com/gallery/ma...serialNumber=1


(sorry can't link to his blog from work.It appears blogs are blocked but will correct this once home later today)

Here we go, the link to Mr.Larkin's delicious blog......

http://boatbuild.wordpress.com/


The closest I've ever come to understanding DC electricity stuff is when I had a misunderstanding between my tongue and the two poles of a nine volt battery.WOW! Mind you, that was several years ago when I was just a teenager and curious as all get out.

Lots and lots of reading to do(thank you for the various links, Mike!), while I carry on relaxing aboard Turtle Bay, pretending to look busy with unfinished tasks.Ain't no fun working when it is sunny, + 28C and the darned ice box is over flowing with medicine!

Nevertheless, stuff is getting done, just a whole lot slower than Mr.Ledger!



Cheers!



Peter

[P.L.Lenihan]

Hi Peter

The fastener work on the cam principle, to close the window you pull on the ring and when the window hits the frame you can just about slide the window mounted part over the sort of hammerhead-looking thing on the frame.
As you pull the ring end downwards it cams on the hammerthing and squeezes the seal a bit and locks in the down position.
I'll send you one to play with, I still have the box my hat came in in the small shrine in my workshop designated to La Mère Merlot so I should have your adress.
I'll get back to you regarding the la-di-dahs.

As for the science of petrol station fires y'all have posted the right answer.

She's probably wearing synthetic fiber clothing and she doesn't touch anything after getting out of the car again.
Me, I wear jeans, cotton shirts and leather boots and have to grab the car door as I dismount (can you say grounded?) so I'm safe (-ish)

The fine weather has finally arrived over here after weeks and weeks of rain and cold, 28C and sun tomorrow so I'm off sailing!

Edit:
The double position la-di-dahs come in brass or nickle, same price for both.
The nifty store in central Stockholm has them for $20 each, I can get them from Finland for $5 each and I can probably pick them up locally for under that price.
You need two per window.

Edit2:
All that talk about hammers made my head hurt so I made a movie instead

Dear Ryden,


That is fantastic good news on all counts! I was just telling Nat about these clever devices from far away yesterday, while we were out practicing 360's with Turtle Bay.Her first question was,"Mon Dieu, do they come in brass or shinny stainless?" (Cheeses, she is almost as bad as I am when it comes to being attracted to shinny stuff!) Anyway as i was saying,we can just about turn her now within her own length! Lots of backing and filling practice.

I cannot wait to get home to view your youtube video. Youtube, just another thing blocked here at work.

Merci beaucoup and keep hydrated,while enjoying some fine sailing lucky devil!



Cheers!


Peter

[knottyBuoyz]

Peter

I don't think I'll be ready to do any fiber glassing on the weekend. My knee still hasn't healed giving me enough comfort to work on the keel.

I suggest you spend the time practicing circles with Turtle Bay in preparation for your Rideau Canal trip. You're going to be doing plenty of those along the way.

I'll send you my contact info via private message so you can call when you're near our backyard. We'll bring "Lil' Peace" and putter along the canal with you.

Regards

Rick

[P.L.Lenihan]

Hi Rick,

And here I was burning candles at high noon,doing primal dances on the aft deck at sunset and drinking the most god-awful combos of liquor at sunrise just to appease the blasted heat and humidity deity for this coming weekend! Very sorry to read your knee is not sticking to the "Heal Quickly, Ya Bastid" program. Injuries like that were always my deepest fear while building my boat.Fortunately for me,beer went a long way toward assauging those fears,thus precluding a wicked dose of builders' paralysis,sometimes called; the nervous sh$ts.

Nat and I have aproximately equal hours worth of manouvering practice on the boat to date and I am very much pleased with both our progress and her eagerness to acquire new skills.She particularly enjoys bring the boat into the dock at the end of the day. This ,of course, is all part of my top secret master plan whereby she takes over all boat handling duties thus liberating me to explore the frozen depths of the medicine cabinet (ice box/cooler, for the international crowd)and/or entertaining liars and bandits on the aft deck. Shame our summers do not just go on and on forever like so many other parts of the world!!

Check your e-mail,if you haven't already, for important news.



Cheers!


Peter

[Jim Ledger]

To put this stray spark/gasoline thing into some sort of perspective let me relate about an informal, ongoing experiment I was involved in. My tongboat used two outboard tanks for fuel, in spite of the fact that it was an inboard boat. The arrangement worked well, you always knew how much fuel you had and you could fill the tanks at a gas station instead of having to drive the boat to a fuel dock, and the gas was always cheaper and of good quality.

These tanks were treated most casually, living at our feet on the cabin floor without so much as a frayed bungee to hold them in place. And we smoked...anything and everything, sitting literally atop those tanks. If it burned we probably smoked it and if it wouldn't burn we dried it out first. One time, well probably more than once, having run out of matches, I can remember folding a strip of newspaper and dipping the end into those very tanks, going over to the battery and striking a spark with a piece of wire...or maybe it was a screwdriver. Anyway, all evidence that the Saint who watches over young fools was on duty back then.

The point I'm trying to make is, besides don't try this at home, is that a well-ventilated space with the fuel contained in the tanks is unlikely to catch fire. It's the fueling process you've got to watch out for with the displaced fumes exiting the tank and the chance of spillage.

On a related note, never remove a battery cable with the engine running.

Carry on...

[Cogeniac]

Jim; You are one lucky guy!!

My slip mate was at the boat on the weekend. He brought two 5 gallon tanks of gas to fill his boat. I was amazed how much gas I could smell as he filled his tank. I was 10-15 feet away in my boat, and it was eye burning. To your point about enclosed spaces...One wonders how much of that settles in the bilges.. Second hand fumes? I should probably turn on my blower before starting, just in case, even though I have a diesel..

Cheers.
S

[RFNK]

I think it's time someone told Jim that his practice of sitting on the gas tanks to smoke actually did blow him to Kingdom Come! He writes to us from There but, like that fellow in Sixth Sense, no one's told him yet.

On the other hand, maybe we shouldn't.

Rick

[M. J. Notigan]

Hi Peter,
Thanks very much for the Boatbuilding Blog link. I did a sneak peak for now and am just impressed with this build of the Devlin Godzilla. The blog also contains relevant info on that fuel tank and fuel fill grounding topic, so I believe that topic has been well documented. It's all about the sharing of good info, that's all. Everyone brings different things to the table for the betterment of all...... I've learned so much from your thread alone; I sure wish it was available when I started my little MT build all those years ago! Oh, and it's nice to hear docking trials are going well!


Just got my latest issue of Messing About In Boats today and inside there is a 4 page spread on the new concept study for the Windermere 38 by Phil Bolger and Friends. It features a small fixed rear skeg and a lengthened aft deck for more exterior space. Twin outboards. Very nice looking concept......

Take Care,
Mike

[knottyBuoyz]

Morning Peter

How's the boat circle practice going? It'll soon be time to practice docking TB backwards into a 2 kt current!

And here I was burning candles at high noon,doing primal dances on the aft deck at sunset and drinking the most god-awful combos of liquor at sunrise just to appease the blasted heat and humidity deity for this coming weekend! Very sorry to read your knee is not sticking to the "Heal Quickly, Ya Bastid" program. Injuries like that were always my deepest fear while building my boat.Fortunately for me,beer went a long way toward assauging those fears,thus precluding a wicked dose of builders' paralysis,sometimes called; the nervous sh$ts.

The heat & humidity deity raised it's ugly head again this weekend. No matter how many furry lil' creatures I sacrificed it made no difference. I managed to get one layer of carbon fiber tape on the bow & keel before the heat drove me out of the shed. When I left it was 37C with the humidity making it more like 47C. I retreated to the veranda for a soothing beverage and dreamed of TB doing circles.

Nat and I have aproximately equal hours worth of manouvering practice on the boat to date and I am very much pleased with both our progress and her eagerness to acquire new skills.She particularly enjoys bring the boat into the dock at the end of the day. This ,of course, is all part of my top secret master plan whereby she takes over all boat handling duties thus liberating me to explore the frozen depths of the medicine cabinet (ice box/cooler, for the international crowd)and/or entertaining liars and bandits on the aft deck. Shame our summers do not just go on and on forever like so many other parts of the world!!

Do you think someday you'll chase the summer aboard Turtle Bay and venture down the ICW? That's our plan and you're welcome to lead the way!

Stay cool my thirsty friends.

Rick

[ben2go]

Do you think someday you'll chase the summer aboard Turtle Bay and venture down the ICW? That's our plan and you're welcome to lead the way!

Stay cool my thirsty friends.

Rick

Let me know if and when you guys head this way.I may be floating on the ICW myself.Maybe have a flotilla.If it's summer,I may wave as I pass head to Canada to cool off.

[RFNK]

Does Rick have a special licence to keep a whale in his shed?

Rick (other one)

[P.L.Lenihan]

The heat & humidity deity raised it's ugly head again this weekend. No matter how many furry lil' creatures I sacrificed it made no difference. I managed to get one layer of carbon fiber tape on the bow & keel before the heat drove me out of the shed. When I left it was 37C with the humidity making it more like 47C. I retreated to the veranda for a soothing beverage and dreamed of TB doing circles.





Do you think someday you'll chase the summer aboard Turtle Bay and venture down the ICW? That's our plan and you're welcome to lead the way!

Stay cool my thirsty friends.

Rick

Hey! Ya wasn't supposed ta be workin' with the bum knee and all! I was all set to go too!! And yes, the humdity was a killer this weekend, I've been exploring various combos of gin and lime,gin and lemon, gin and soda and...grasping my gronicles..... gin and nothing. Interesting experience,from what I can recall this Monday morning, for a die hard beer drinker.

Nat picked up a canoe Friday night. She is getting into this "being on the water" thing big time! She says it will be the perfect boat for getting a bit of a work out with, since all she does on Turtle Bay is drive the boat,eat, drink and sleep.Life is sooo hard some times!!

Today we decided to be on vacation and toss off the wrist-watches for the next 4 weeks.We move by the light of the day and snore by the light of the moon.Between sunrise and sunset, we will eat when hungry and drink when thirsty......no schedules to keep! Yippee!!!

Now......about this boat of yours, do ya or do ya not want a hand with it or not or will you wait till your knee is truly better?



Cheers!



Peter

[Ryden]

Nat is turning into a proper water rat isn't she?

Nice? It's the ONLY thing,' said the Water Rat solemnly, as he leant forward for his stroke. `Believe me, my young friend, there is NOTHING--absolute nothing--half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats. Simply messing,' he went on dreamily: `messing--about--in--boats; messing----'

[knottyBuoyz]

Hey! Ya wasn't supposed ta be workin' with the bum knee and all! I was all set to go too!! And yes, the humdity was a killer this weekend, I've been exploring various combos of gin and lime,gin and lemon, gin and soda and...grasping my gronicles..... gin and nothing. Interesting experience,from what I can recall this Monday morning, for a die hard beer drinker.

Ok, now you're starting to sound like Lori. "Get down offa that damn'd boat ya Ijjit!" "Yes Dear!"

Try lemon gin and Ice tea over crushed ice. Be careful though, it sneaks up on ya perdy quick! :-)

Nat picked up a canoe Friday night. She is getting into this "being on the water" thing big time! She says it will be the perfect boat for getting a bit of a work out with, since all she does on Turtle Bay is drive the boat,eat, drink and sleep.Life is sooo hard some times!!

You'll find the canoe ideal for your Rideau & Ottawa river adventures! Lori's planning on rowing our dinky for a workout! I'll command the vessel and she can hand me the medicinal beverages from the on board cooler! :-)

Today we decided to be on vacation and toss off the wrist-watches for the next 4 weeks.We move by the light of the day and snore by the light of the moon.Between sunrise and sunset, we will eat when hungry and drink when thirsty......no schedules to keep! Yippee!!!

Enjoy your holiday Peter. you earned it.

Now......about this boat of yours, do ya or do ya not want a hand with it or not or will you wait till your knee is truly better?

I do, but I don't. Don't know when I'll do it. Might be a little tricky with scheduling and or I'm scared ****less of messing it up. I had to order another set of carbon fiber scissors 'cause the last pair disappeared. I'm blaming the cats for that one. I need the scissors to cut up some carbon fiber for the bow section. That's another one of those excuses boat builders use to put stuff off awhile longer! :-) There's no way the scissors manged to migrate into Lori's sewing room (aka the home of 1000 scissors). Hmmmmm?

If you want to take a drive up and have a look see and shoot the boat building bull crap in the Big Blue Boat Shed, you're always welcome. I'm off every Friday now till I retire. We've got some social obligations coming up that'll mess up the next few weekends but after that we should be good and the weather will have moderated a bit.

Salut

Rick

[Chip Chester]

Time for a rooftop canoe carrier for Turtle Bay?

[BBSebens]

And a little crane to lift it with!!

Rick, I sure miss the forum updates on the Blue Fortress of Boatiness. If anyone complains, tell 'em to piss off.

[knottyBuoyz]

And a little crane to lift it with!!

Rick, I sure miss the forum updates on the Blue Fortress of Boatiness. If anyone complains, tell 'em to piss off.

You can follow my foibles over here Ben... http://she-kon.blogspot.ca/

[flyinwall]

well i haven't been on here for a little while but i see you still haven't got that proper name board made up yet

[ben2go]

Thread went cold.Peter,any updates or you out with the admiral?

[Chip Chester]

I do believe they've been on a four-week float-about since early August. Probably can't post, with the medicinal side-effects and all... Chip

[knottyBuoyz]

When last seen the crew of the M/V Turtle Bay was wandering aimlessly towards the Carrillon Canal.



This seemingly random track of Turtle Bay can be attributed to:

1. Too much liquid medicine,
2. Not 'nuff luquid medicine,
3. Faulty autopilot,
4. Faulty helmsman (helmsperson),
5. Faulty steering cable, or
6. Not yet fully cognizant of the fact that he no longer is on a sailboat!

Safe voyaging Peter & Nat!

Rick

[M. J. Notigan]

Rick,
Looks obvious by those track lines someone needs to tell Peter that tacking is not necessary on his new boat...... Looking forward to hearing all of his and Nat's latest cruise!

Mike

[Cogeniac]

LBPC at the Victoria Wooden Boat Festival. 2012

[BBSebens]

You going to be at PT? Im bringing my LPBC. would love to get the hats together!

[Cogeniac]

You going to be at PT? Im bringing my LPBC. would love to get the hats together!

No. Unfortunately, we are headed back to Petaluma today. Have a great time!

[Cogeniac]

You going to be at PT? Im bringing my LPBC. would love to get the hats together!

No. Unfortunately we are headed home today. Have a great time!