That primer you use looks nice. Question: Does it sand well? How long do you wait before it's hard enough for smooth sanding?
Great to see you back, and kick'in ass too. Looks like Tenner's on a roll!
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That primer you use looks nice. Question: Does it sand well? How long do you wait before it's hard enough for smooth sanding?
Great to see you back, and kick'in ass too. Looks like Tenner's on a roll!
Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
Originally Posted by Saltiguy
Hi Saltiguy,
This is a high build primer and cures to a gloss finish.The gloss has to be sanded off for subsequent coats,be they primer or paint.Sanding is a breeze with good paper.Ready to sand after about 24 hours at 20C.(68F.), less if it is warmer and longer if cooler....
This primer also stinks to the high heavens and is dangerous to use without breathing filters for organic volatiles.
Cheers!
Peter, who one day may well begin to roll if the gf doesn't stop shoveling food down his gullet with glee!
Do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,now!
J.Lennon
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The following is just a brief photo essay to explain why I posted no boat pictures last night.
With winter soon approaching, I took some time to "inspect" the roof covering on my bowshed to see how things were holding up. Despite some remarkable storms, winds ,ice and snow over the past few years,the outside roof covering never failed.Now however, with the boat so near to completion, I don't want this to be the winter the poly finally does give out.
So, I went out and bought a nice 100' X 20' foot roll of 6 mil poly and took advantage of the gymnasium, at my place of work, to tape two halves together so that it would cover the entire bowshed roof in one go. The widest poly film I could find was only 20 feet wide and I needed more.
What a treat to actually do boat related stuff inside a well lit and heated room with no dust! The accoustics are impressive too when all alone in a gymnasium. Even the sound of the adhessive tape getting un-rolled sounded like a distant rifle shot.Also,the nice straight painted lines on the gymnasiums' floor made aligning the sheets a breeze. Here we can see two swaths of the poly unrolled side by side. Each swath unfolds to 20 feet wide.
Here we see the length of each swath.
Thanks to the abundance of straight parallel lines on the gymnasium floor, lining up the two sheets for taping was as easy as any ten thumbed fool could ask for! The panels were given a two foot over-lap. Here we see the first of two tape joints.As you can see, I got off to a shaky start with some wobble to the tape but it did straighten out as I made my way toward the far end, nearest the wall.
This red tape is the stuff contractors use when taping up vapour barrier and man does it ever stick to the poly! I've used it to repair tears and holes on the bowshed poly and these are still holding up smartly.Beautiful stuff really, from the same folks who make Tuck Tape.(not Duct tape...that's something else!)
The two seams now taped together and the poly getting folded back into a more practical width for transport. It was impressive to see the static build up as the entire 42' X 38' taped panel was dragged over itself to expose the other side of the seam for taping. A second pair of hands would have gone a long way toward making that whole process easier. For that matter, a second pair of knees too would have been much appreciated during the taping of those two 42' long seams. Between the palm rubbing of the tape as it was applied and the poor old knees shuffling slowly along the length of the seam, I couldn't decide which was worse but sure could have used a cold beer to ease the suffering!
One bowshed poly covering all rolled up and ready to go! Yes I know, that is one loose and lousy roll but by this point my knees had begun firing off speedy memos to my two neurons informing them of near and imminent collapse if I did not cease and desist with this business of crawling around on the floor like some 2 year old!
Hmmmm.....almost 2:30AM......best get back to work before they start missing me. Not that they would ever notice, mind you, but it is a cheery thought...........
Cheers!
Peter Crippleknees.
Last edited by P.L.Lenihan; 10-23-2009 at 01:20 AM.
Do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,now!
J.Lennon
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Tenner, I was thinking.......................
Stand back, it can be dangerous you know when Saltiguy actually concentrates.
Tenner, I was thinking, how about if you rounded up a mess of electric blankets, wired them all up together and put them underneath the plastic. The snow would melt right off and You'd be nice and toasty down below.
See why I'm such a boatbuilding genius?
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You know something Saltiguy, as much as I hate to say this, there was actually a time in my not too distant past,when I was possessed with a cranium full of neurons awash in neurotransmitter and I would almost daily dream up the oddest contraptions and schemes not unlike this doozy you've just hatched. Fortunately the slow inevitable passage of time has seen my skull gradually become ever more depleted to the point where I now luxuriate in the company of my two remaining neurons and marvel at my ability to not burn the toast and to keep blinking while brushing my teeth. Small pleasures for some, I know, but a minor miracle for me.
But more to the point, as I heeded your instructions to stand a safe distance from the computer screen, I was overcome with a strong desire to tell you my bowshed has a clear poly skin over its' bows and.......I hope you are sitting comfortably in your favorite chair for this next part....acts just like a greenhouse generating lots of solar powered heat and this heat,rising as heat is sometimes known to do, does a grand job of keeping the snow off the roof. No virtual electric-blanket-quilt to assemble, no drama with electrical wiring and lots of beautiful natural light since there are no blankets to create a shady and gloomy interior. The best part of all this is $$$ or rather, the lack of any need to spend $$$ on electric blankets,extension cords and sleeping pills which I would almost certainly need to calm my obsessive worrying about electrical fires.
And this leads me to a question for you; was it a particularly warm and sunny summer down your way this year at the corporate boatbuilding headquarters? Did you wear protective head gear while outdoors in the bright sun? Did you keep well hydrated during the worst of summers heat? O.K. so that is more than one question,numbers are not my strong suit, but I hope you can appreciate my unwritten concern for your own dome of thought and its' valuable contents. It can't be easy being a boatbuilding genius by day and a dreamer by night
Now get back to building and pay heed to the insulation advice offered........I want your boat to last a long,long time!
Cheers!
Tenner,aka Peter
Do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,now!
J.Lennon
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No GF to help you tape-n-fold? What's up wit dat? OK when there's primer and fillets to be sanded, but when there's some real work to do...
Hey...what's the plan to get the plastic on top of the shed?
Are you leaving the old stuff in place?
Your humble apprentice...
Jim
25' Brewer catboat
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Dammit!
I was going to patent that idea and make millions.
You get solar gain?
In the winter?
I thought you spent the winters up there in complete darkness. I recall reading that in Canada the sun sinks in October and doesn't reappear until April
Do you actually have daylight there? If so, I'm relieved to hear it because I was worried that you might not make it through the winter. Whew!
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Carrying on with the small stuff.............
Once the primer had cured on the latest parts it was time to install them.Here we see the base of the Samson post/anchor davit suport now epoxied onto the bottom of the anchor well(forepeak?) and the epoxy fillets getting a nice sanding to clean them up abit as this wasn't my neatest work bending over into that well attempting to do fillets. Some may notice that while the square cut-out for the Samson post is indeed square, the hole for the davit is not exactly round.This is due to the angle of the anchor well sole which is angled upward toward the bow as it follows the shear thus requiring the hole to be somewhat angled too so as to keep the davit perpendicular to the waterline.Make sense?
And this here is the lower bearing/foot step,now epoxied in place and getting a nice sanding of its' fillets too. I shouda been born 2 feet shorter as it would have made this process considerably easier instead of the gymnastics required to get down,in and around the under side of the bearing/foot step to sand those pesky fillets.Oh, do ya see those round greyish things that look like cigar ashes between the blue handled chisel and the extravagant sandpaper(sorry John B.!)? Those are the ends of some stainless steel bolts I cut off which support the motorboard assembly just on the other side of the fore and aft bulkhead to the right of the hack saw.
This is where they came from, those evil little pant,shirt and skin rippers which tried so hard to skin me alive while I was going into various contortions down in the lazarette.
Hanging almost up-side down into the lazarette with the camera attempting to get a clear shot of the wonderful hidden fillets.......and failing miserably. I'm going to have to wait until my gf comes to the boat and get her down in the lazaretter to take better shots so I can at least see how they look,visual creature that I am. I glad I thought of priming the underside of the bearing/foot step BEFORE installing it!
Once this part had been installed, I noted a new comfort as I could now step down into the lazarette instead of the crazy business of lowering myself down with my arms. However, this new comfort had one little hick to it. That lower bearing/foot step made for one big step downward which could, if one wasn't mindful, put the raisin twins at risk of being crushed along the edge of the lazarette hatch coaming.
So, I rotated myself 180 degrees to see about where I could put a second step in thereby reducing the risk of never having kids.
And this is what I saw.We can see here the aft face of the rear cabin bulkhead along with some lengths of PVC 2" conduit exiting from the bulkhead.These will carry the engine control cables safely forward through the various and numerous bulkheads and half bulkheaded sections of the bilge all the way forward to the helm station.The upper most conduit(with the elbow on it) will carry forced air into the fuel tank compartment to vent it properly.The bigger conduit on the left,travels bellow the outboard motor slop well over to the other side where the blower is located.These conduits are not yet permanently installed and will all recieve a nice thick bead of 5200 around the holes in the bulkhead to make them air and water-tight.
The next foot step would then have to be installed above these conduits.An un-expected bonus now is that these conduits will receive some protection from being damaged by stuff lowered into the lazarette with the presence of this foot step just above them. We see here the faying surfaces sanded free of the primer in preparation for the foot step.
To be continued.....
Cheers!
Peter
Do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,now!
J.Lennon
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No GF to help you tape-n-fold? What's up wit dat? OK when there's primer and fillets to be sanded, but when there's some real work to do...
Hey...what's the plan to get the plastic on top of the shed?
Are you leaving the old stuff in place?
Your humble apprentice...
Jim
Hi Mr.Ledger!
Remember, the gf is the one with the brains and she was sound asleep at that hour. I'm the fool who works nights
As for getting the new plastic up,choose a day with little wind! It's real easy and goes like this:
a)Un-roll the sheet along the edge of the bowshed.
b) Tie some lines every 8 feet or so along one of the long edges of the plastic using little blocks of wood to create a "mushroom" around which the line is tied.
c)Toss lines up and over the bowshed to the other side.
d)Gradually and gently pull the plastic up and over the roof.
e)Secure plastic temporarily and pour yerself some reward.
f)Proceed with anchoring the perimeter of the plastic sheeting to the bowshed and pour yerself another glass of reward.
g)Run strapping over the roof,between the bows,and snug these down.This action will,over the length of the shed, serve to remove all loose plastic to the point of having the outside sheathing almost drum tight.This ensures a long life to the plastic as it will not flog itself to shreds in high winds.Crack open a bottle of some of the really good stuff and pour yerself a richly deserved glass of reward while enjoying a fine smoke. After the second or third swallow, look up into the sky, raise one fist toward it and in a rich,unthrottled, baritone, holler out," Blow it outta yer arse Aeolus!"
h) Spend the rest of the winter praying that Aeolus was really really busy somewhere else on the planet and never really heard you the day you put up the plastic anyway.
Oh,before I forget, yes, I will be leaving the old plastic up as it can't hurt and will even help somewhat to support the new plastic as it is dragged up into place. I'll take some pictures the day I do it if you wish.
Knock it off with the "apprentice" stuff Mr.Ledger, you ain't foolin' anyone here Sir, certainly not I !
Nice of you to drop by and I hope all continues to be well in Ledgerland!
Cheers!
Peter, the really real appentice
Do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,now!
J.Lennon
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Yessiree,"we" have daylight here all year long nicely divided up by bouts of nightlight. But I only live about 50 miles North of your countrys' border, not way way up North where days and nights can be oddly long. Canada is a big piece of territory but no where near as populated as our Southern cousins.Cold weather in the Northern regions tends to keep folk from going hog-wild with attempts to populate there.
Sorry for dashing your dreams of millions like that but I thought you should know,just in case...you know....you sell everything off in readiness for your life as a millionaire and end up dumpster diving just to survive.
Glad to hear you relieved yourself...er....a.. I mean that you are relieved to imagine my surviving another winter. Never fear, it's going to take more than arctic cold temperatures and lots of snow to get rid of me.I was born here,afterall, a veritable slush puppy I was
Cheers!
Peter, the balloon bursting, party pooping, pisser in cereals various and all around swell chap from pinko land,a wee bit North of most of you.
Do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,now!
J.Lennon
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Next along the line, a couple of cleats are gotten out of mahogany from the cut-off bin.
Only two cleats are installed at this point as it is easy to get these two perfectly level and in line with each other. Add a third and with my luck the whole affair will be un-even.Sorta like attempting to correct a table with one leg too long...............you(I) end up with a coffee table. These cleats are set in epoxy and are being held temporarily with a couple of drywall screws which will get removed later once the epoxy cures
A small piece of pattern making material is then fussed with to get a near perfect shape for the foot step.It also serves to accurately locate the third cleat in the correct plane to the two previously installed cleats.
Another view of the foot step.We can see how it will properly and nicely protect the conduits.
Back to the cut-off box and a couple of bits of 1/2" MDO are scrounged out and cut slightly over sized to the pattern. This here is a view of the two 1/2" pieces overlayed to form a 1" thick foot step with a couple of drywall screws which will prevent the two halves from sliding all over Gods' creation once set in thickened epoxy and clamped together.
The faying surfaces of the MDO have been given a nice quick pass of the grinder to put some tooth to the surface. The small black dot is the hole where the anti-skid-all-over-Gods'-creation drywall screw enters the second panel but does not penetrate through to the other side.
A beautiful thickened bed of epoxy spread around the two halves now ready to be joined for eternity.
To be continued.............
Cheers!
Peter
Do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,now!
J.Lennon
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Carrying on with the lazarette foot step...............
With the thickened epoxy generously spread onto the two halves of the foot step, it was clamping up time.The clamps do not have to be drawn down bar tight, just snug enough to get a nice even bit of squeeze out around the perimeter and that should do it.
Clamping pads on da udder side to protect this lowly foot step from some unsightly clamp prints.Not that anyone will ever notice,especially if I set the foot step with the clamp prints on the underside of the foot step but I'm a little bit nuts like that for small details.Some may even say a barrel full of monkeys nuts and I just may not give them much of an argument either over that claim! If one looks closely, one may also just make out the two screws driven in just deep enough to prevent the two foot step halves from sliding,plate tectonic like,under the pressure from the clamps.
Once the epoxy was cured(the following day) it was time to clean up and square the edges of the now 1" thick foot step.Planing plywood edges and epoxy is a real treat for the amateur builder as it will very quickly dull the edge of the plane knife almost to the point where it will barely slice butter.This is a good thing too for now it offers us a wonderful opportunity to practice our sharpening skills.Mr.Bob Smalser has some excellent advice on how to do this too.Check out one of his threads on how to do it like a pro.....you won't be sorry!
Satisfied with my plane work, it is now time to put my trusty pattern to good use. Laid on top of the foot step to be, I see right away, in the lower right hand corner, that there is a slight inward angle to the outboard edge of the foot step....
"Hey Jackass, I mean Tenner! How come your fancy-dancy pattern is wider than the plywood step? Didjya screw up again, ya fool?"
Oh God, he's still here in the back of the room...."Ahem.Sir? Yes you in the back with the hunting jacket on.It is good that you noticed that and my reply is simply this; the width of the foot step was left a bit opened to a final dimension based on what I would be able to scrounge out of the cut-off bin.It is not that critical and just has to be wide enough to give a solid foot hold while entering or exiting the lazarette.Does that answer you question?"
"Fart"
"Good.Then let's move on,shall we?"
Once the pattern shape was traced onto the foot step, it was cut carefully to shape and the outboard aft edge given a quick pass of the sanding block to knock off the otherwise too sharp edges.Epoxy and paints do not like sharp edges!
A quick trial fit showed that the pattern was accurate,as was my cutting, and so the foot step was laid into a bed of thickened epoxy and a nice little fillet dealt with the epoxy squeeze out along the perimeter of the foot step.No screws were used and the works were left to cure overnight . We can see here the results, the following day, along with a size 11 shoe for scale.Entering and exiting the lazarette is now childs play and the family raisins are safe!
Has anyone noticed a terrible omission on this foot step?
Cheers!
Peter, aka Tenner
Last edited by P.L.Lenihan; 10-25-2009 at 01:03 AM.
Do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,now!
J.Lennon
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Working with epoxy is just the perfect thing for a lazy bum like myself, for no matter how your shake it, the epoxy takes time to cure and standing around waiting is about as much fun as watching paint dry.
Fortunately for myself, the boatyard is situated right along the St.Lawrence Seaway and provides ample excuses to leave working on the boat for a later time.
This time, it was the different roar of diesels accompanied by the stranger sounds of clangs,kabooms and falling stones which lured me to the waters edge like a sirens call.
The rattling rage of a hungry diesel belonged to this tough looking character plowing furrows in side the Seaway canal. Pure work boat!
And he had just pulled away from this dredger working the far bank of the Seaway canal.This was the source of all the other noise drifting over the water and through the boatyard as the bucket was repeatedly hauled up,swung over the barge to release its' load of the canal floor into the barges belly.The three tall stacks on the dredge are the spuds(leges) which hold the dredger in postion while the bucket is working. These are raised and lowered smartly each time the dredger moves forward, with the single spud aft actually canting forward to push the dredger forward, not unlike the way a chap might pole a punt along shallow lakes and ponds.
On this side of the canal, this fine fellow waited patiently to bring his now emptied barge alongside the dredger.
A fine and honest working tug with a fair share of bruises and bumps so typical to older working characters.
Looking at her closely, I found myself slipping lightly into a day dream as I wondered what could have caused all the dings,dents and bumps around her once perfect house. Looking through portlights and along the ladders and decks, I wondered about the many men who served on her and maybe even called her home for awhile. How I wished she could talk and tell me of the many things she has encounter in her interesting working life to bring here to this point in the Seaway.
These water cannons, in particular, had me imagining all sorts of heroics from both boat and crew as they battled fires past.Here too I thought of the hard folk who worked her daily to earn their bread.
Once home and all but forgetting to lock the bowshed(yikes!) I went about searhing the web for her. I was not disappointed!
http://shipfax.blogspot.com/2009/05/...r-is-back.html
Cheers!
Peter, The Lazy
Do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,now!
J.Lennon
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Great post
Interesting story too.
"Swellmaster" has a certain fugley beauty about her.
Further investigation might reveal that whoever designed the pilothouse windows on her also did the windows on that steel abortion in your yard.
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It is an interesting story. Thanks!
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Glad you enjoyed the post Saltiguy and PaulC.! Boat junkies can never get enough boat stuff, no matter the medium or the subject!
With so many diminishing hours of wonderful day light to play in, and all sorts of boats going by in the St.Lawrence Seaway daily, it is a small wonder I get any work done on my boat at all.But I do manage to get my act together despite this and the long list of things to do gets chipped away at slowly,but surely.
The vacations were tough too and it is taking some time to get back up to speed as I gradually attempt to re-instill some sense of discipline into my otherwise childlike or boyhood like existence.
So, in between playing around in the lazarette,waiting for the epoxy to cure,keeping an eye and ear peeled for interesting sights and sounds from along the Seaway, I gently remove epoxy squeeze out and prep the forward salon window frames.This here is the port side,looking forward.All that is left to do here is to sand off the sharp corners/edges of the frames and begin to apply epoxy sealer to the inside faying surface where the glass goes.
The starboard side,looking aft, and we can see some as-yet-removed epoxy squeeze out in the corners of the inside window frames.The inside corners of the faux rabbet are less a worry,visually, as these will be covered by bedding compound and glass followed by a molding.
The outside edges of the interior window frames, where the rabbet over-laps the interior wall, was also scapped clean and smooth of any epoxy. My gf is going to have some fun re-painting the interior walls......lucky girl!
My helper,Little Richard, is the perfect tool for the fussy work of getting in close and tight to remove the last bits of cured epoxy just prior to sanding.
"PARENTAL ADVISORY HERE! THE FOLLOWING TEXT AND PICTURE ARE NOT SUITABLE FOR YOUNG CHILDREN,NURSING MOTHERS,RELIGIOUS FANATICS OF ALL STRIPES OR ANYONE EASILY OFFENDED BY THE DISPLAY OF THE MASCULINE JOY STICK. KINDLY LOOK AWAY,SKIP THIS PART OR TAKE UP NEEDLEPOINT NOW."
Leaving the bowshed unattended for the two small weeks I was away on vacation was a wee bit nerve wracking for me. Knowing that "we" had already been visited by a hungry herd of the fierce Blue Armadillo and had only escaped certain death by the skin of our teeth thanks to the gallant and heroic efforts of our own Master Simon Bates was cause enough for concern. Simon can be a handfull at times and his forever curious mindset has been known to get him into all sorts of grief with the neighbours which in turn always finds me playing "peace maker" to the offended parties.
And this is what left me feeling somewhat puzzled on my first day back to the bowshed. Unlike the past, there was not a collage of writs,threats,warnings and subpoenas stapled to the outside of the bowshed door when I drove up."Hmmmm" I thought,"this is weird.Could Master Bates finally have succeeded with his therapy and turned over a new leaf?"
Unlocking the door and stepping into the bowshed, I was at first surrounded by the old familiar smells of exotic wood shavings, chemicals and the rich musty aroma of the dirt floor.It was the unusual silence which really drew my attention however, for this was not normal nor familiar.Slowly making my way through the bowshed and around the boat while scanning ahead for perhaps some trouble, I drew in a gasp of cool Autumn air when I suddenly came upon Simon, caught in a most delicate situation!Oh the horror! The unmitigated effrontery! "EEEEK!" " YIKES!" and "KEYRICESTE!" I let out from my gapping mouth, once I had recovered from the initial shock.
Who nows how long these sort of shenanigans had been going on but the little rotter had surrounded himself with my F.A.R.T.S, in the vain hope they were in fact really a bevy of French Ticklers, ooohing and aaahing and ready to please. Simons' exposed and turgid joy stick left little doubt in my mind what the little bugger was up to! "How dare you sport a woody in my bowshed", I hissed at him. "The vacation is over Master Bates and you Sir are now formally suspended for 1 week without pay for such a pompous display! Now put that evil thing away and get the hell outta here before I whittle it into a mere toothpick!" I commanded him.
Thus, he scooted out the door, without a glance backwards, and left me standing,all tenthumbs and awkwards.
It's great to be back!
Cheers!
Peter
Do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,now!
J.Lennon
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More fun along the Seaway!....it's getting busy here with the seaon heading toward the closure of the Seaway for winter and I imaging traffic will increase throughout November and most of December as ships race to get there business done before ice-up .
One happy looking little tug! The PERFORMANCE owned and operated by the Saint Lawrence Seaway Development Corporation(U.S.A) seen here Westbound up through the canal and leading the way for................
the heavy lift barge crane GRASSE RIVER seen here really moving water aside as she gets pushed smartly along.
Mighty big set of 4 Danforth anchors leaning against the cabin side.Note the size of the black painted davits used to haul them up! For scale, compare them to the size of the door to the right of them, on the corner of the cabin.
Compare the size of this man to one of the doors,seen opened just behind him.THose are very big Danforth anchors!
The star of the show, the mighty tug ROBINSON BAY doing the heavy work. Also owned by the Saint Lawrence Seaway development Corporation(U.S.A.) and all registered in Massena N.Y.
What an absolutely drop-dead lovely sheer line she has too. I just love the way it perks up and around her stern quarter! She is a very well maintained tug and was built the very same year as I was!
Cheers!
Peter, the watcher of canals.........
Do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,now!
J.Lennon
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Just a few more pictures of her..................
Isn't that the sweetest bum ya ever saw? I'm such a pervert
Here is a wonderful picture of her in 1986, before she was modernized, exiting the Welland canal.
And here she is again, in 2001, running along the Seaway canal close to the St.Lambert locks near Montreal and sporting the fruits of her 1991 modernization work.That tall building in the background is the CBC(Canadian Broadcasting Corporation) office tower on the Island of Montreal(http://www.cbc.ca/).
Cheers!
Peter, always the dreamer..........
P.S., she was uilt in 1958!
Do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,now!
J.Lennon
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Your construction project seems to have metamorphosed into a boat. Pleasing how they do that
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Has anyone noticed a terrible omission on this foot step?
Well no-one has bitten yet so I suppose I might as well.
Peter you Fool-in-Training, you forgot to paint that step before you fitted it. Now you will be head down, arse up in your lazarette for a week rectifying this omission.
Which may explain the sudden interest in goings-on on the canal.......
Keep It Simple: KISS it better.
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Har dee har har Gareth
Cheers!!
Peter,The Forever Young.......
Do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,now!
J.Lennon
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Ha! Just when I'm getting all cozy with the notion that no one is paying attention any more to my odd-ball antics on this thread and that I can amuse myself just about any way I please, you have to come along and spoil my fun.Thanks alot party pooper
But correct you are Candyfloss, and I haven't even a convincing excuse to justify my own little screw up! Mind you, it could have been the all absorbing dread of crushing ones raisinswhich found me ever so slightly distracted and eager to get that second step done which allowed me to breeze right by the priming stage or something worse which held one of my neurons otherwise pre-occupied. I'll never really know!
Nevertheless you are spot on the money and I should have made a contest of it. Since I failed to think of a contest at the time and you got the correct answer anyway, fire me off a PM, in confidence, with a secure mailing address and I'll send you down a nice baseball cap with a laughing polar bear on it. It'll make a neat conversation openner down in your neck of the woods, I'm sure
Cheers!!
Peter, The recognized fool in training...........and getting closer, by the day, to graduation!
Do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,now!
J.Lennon
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(Severely). Mr Lenihan, Sir. This is a boatbuilding forum, not Wind in the Willows. Back to the bowshed with you Sir. I want to see if this boat floats sometime before I die.
(Exit stage left, grumbling).
Keep It Simple: KISS it better.
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(enter stage right,whistling a happy tune) Oh Candyfloss.....you hoo...where for art thou? I have my hands on a happy cap just for you hoo!(exit stage left while scanning the audience for Candyfloss,carry on with happy whistling)
Do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,now!
J.Lennon
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Isn't that what we're doing here?
Messing around in boats?
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Peter, I knew that when I brought up the matter of Canada going dark for the winter, that your response was just an attempt to keep the truth about it from your friends so we wouldn't worry too much. Tenner, I KNOW you can survive the coming winter. You ARE a survivor! I also know how bad it gets up there.
When You start talking about "the diminishing hours of sunlight", and the Seaway closing for the winter, I know what's happening and there's no reason to conceal it from us. So, there will be no daylight, and everything will be frozen solid. I know all about this Canadian Great White North stuff because I watch "Ice Road Truckers" on Television. Hang in there buddy, and try to keep that internet connection from freezing.
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You are going to need pretty good eyes, Peter. I'm this far away.
The Distance between Auckland (Auckland,New Zealand) and Montreal (Quebec,Canada) is :
14384.07 kilometers (km).
Keep It Simple: KISS it better.
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Or 8937.84 miles
When peeing over the side,remember,one hand for you,and one hand for the ship.
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No, 7768.8 miles. What's with the statute miles?Or 8937.84 miles
1947 Nordic Folkboat "Nina"
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I just converted the km stated above into miles.
When peeing over the side,remember,one hand for you,and one hand for the ship.
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Only that much?! Nothing that can't be handled by the wonders of modern aviation and imagination
So do tell, would ya like a nice baseball cap for your perspicaciously observation earlier? Totally gratis and one size fits all too......unless you chaps in NZ are much bigger in real life than on the telivision, it should fit like a dream.
Cheers!
Peter
Do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,now!
J.Lennon
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I thought you were pulling my leg.
Thanks Peter. I could wear it to a fancy dress party if I ever want to go as a Kanook. (Is that a bad word?) Kiwis don't play baseball.
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Keep It Simple: KISS it better.
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No,nay and never Candyfloss, no leg pulling here. I save that for Mr.Ledger
The cap may well be a wonderful bit of kit to add that certain je ne sais quoi to an already spiffy outfit especially if it is a Canuk you wish to flatter.No, it is not a "bad" word except went spelt incorrectly
I've copied your particulars, so perhaps it would be good to edit out(erase) your address.....I thought you were going to send it via PM anyway.
Cheers!
Peter
Do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,now!
J.Lennon
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Peter, that view of your windows on post 1325 looks awsome. You've done a wonderful job with the details and the proportions of each element.
A little tip that will save some work: When you're gluing up natural wood like that, use wood flour as a filler instead of cabosil. That way, squeeze-out or the resulting staining tends to blend in visually.
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Into statute miles, yes. But that won't do you much good, you need nautical miles to navigate.
1947 Nordic Folkboat "Nina"
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Yes that's correct.I don't use nautical miles since I gave up being a pilot.Health issues grounded me.Now it's boats boats boats....The GF hates me now.
When peeing over the side,remember,one hand for you,and one hand for the ship.
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Nautical miles?
Statute miles?
Who cares?
We want SANDING pictures!
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Just a friendly FYI, here, Peter...
Swllmaster was up on the slip at the A.F.Theriault shipyard (where I worked until just recently) for her Transport Canada inspections and underbody refit last summer. I wasn't aboard (I was too busy with final fit-out of the fireboat) but the yard super told me that her interior and especially her engine room are absolutely spotless. He said that the mains and auxiliaries were sparkling like jewellery. Nice tug, built in 1956.
Hope for the best, but plan for the worst.
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It took me a minute to realize what you were taking about Michael, for upon the first quick read I coulda sworn I read,"Swillmaster",which had me wondering which one of my buddies you had met
It always impresses me how very clean and orderly some of these hard worked vessels can be and I always have the highest respect for the talented crew that keeps them that way too. I hope I can keep mine as ship-shape once launched!
Thanks for the added info.!
Cheers!
Peter
Do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,now!
J.Lennon
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I'm anxious to see what your boats aft area looks like as it's hard to tell from the study plans.
So, how about getting back to work? You've been loafing long enough.
Don't forget the SANDING
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They call themselves Canuks Graeme.Short for Canadians with pucks.
..don't judge a man till you've walked a mile in his shoes..
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You are absolutely correct with you observation regarding my loafing along Saltiguy. But it is a nice loafing along and the gf is very pleased too. Spent( used up) the better part of yesterday driving the gf 521 kms to buy a new car. She saw it advertised at a dealer way out in the country with a considerable price difference for the same car here in town. She claims she owes me big-time and there is nothing I like more than when she owes me.....collection time is always a treat
Funny you speak about the aft end of the boat, I've been busy there of late and will get pictures up for you to view this coming night.
-3C here at corporate HQ and what a wonderful, gentle introduction to the wonders of winter wihout a cloud in the early morning sky!
Have a nice warm day..........taskmaster
Cheers!
Peter, the guilty lazy loafer...
Do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,now!
J.Lennon
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I know how you feel , I am suffering from a sore back and have been lazy myself, I need to get some inspiration to get off my butt, maybe once I get over the sore backand and the weather Iwilltake ona project in the shop.
Darren
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Peter
I was wondering where you buy the plywood you use?
You mentioned before that it was MDO ? what is that and what is the full name
Thanks Darren
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Back to the amateur hour featuring the on-going efforts of a ten-thumbed-two-neuron-wack-job, sometimes known as Tenner,Peter, Jackass and worse.............Yippee!
As we last saw, I was adding comfort details to the interior of the aft lazarette. With the bulk of this work now out of the way, a hatch is now needed .This is how I did mine. Enjoy.
I begin by going over to the cut-off pile for a couple of choice bits of 1/2" MDO which were saved precisely for hatch covers. The designer,Phil Bolger, sure did maximize plywood panel use with this design.Very little waste!
The cut-off was laid over the hatch opening and given a reasonably close tracing of the outboard(over coamings) shape.Cutting to this line, the panel was then returned to the hatch opening and the inside shape of the opening was traced from within the lazarette simply by lowering myself down into the hole,postioning the panel over the opening and tracing away with a pencil.
With a true and I hope accurate shape of the hatch cover traced onto the MDO, I proceed to rough up the faying surfaces for the framing stock and a doubler panel of 1/2" MDO.
A dry fittting of the doubler MDO panel. The 1/2" MDO is plenty strong for the relatively small size of this hatch cover( 24" X 30" Aprox.) however I chose to add the doubler so that any hatch lifting ring or device I will need to install will have enough meat bellow it for fastenings. It does however make for a very strong hatch cover able to withstand hours of my gf practicing here tap-dancing and is a wonderful opportunity for me to continue practicing working with wood.
Here we see the hatch cover frame dry fitted.This mahogany frame stock all recieved a slight hollowing on its' faying surface too and is held in place with some dry wall screws from bellow as is the doubler panel. The screws are really usefull for keeping everything "perfectly" positioned as they get laid in a thickened bed of epoxy.
Another view of the underside of the hatch cover with all its' elements dry fitted. The excess over-hangs will all get planed off after the epoxy has cured. It's always a good thing to leave yourself small margins of error when cutting shapes,just in case you cut things too precisely. If you want to see that sort of wood working, check out Mr.Ledger's catboat build thread. That's precision work and he has the experience and talent to pull it off perfectly too!
Once completely satisfied with how the whole hatch cover is going to be assembled, the bits are brought into the boat and laid out on a plastic sheet over the berth in the master stateroom.
Why the stateroom, you may be wondering? Because it is too cool now in the bowshed for proper epoxy work and with the heater now running 24/7..................
I am able to maintain a cozy inside temperature for epoxy and paint work.For my friends in the USA,read the right hand numbers.For the rest of the world, read the left hand numbers.
To be continued...........
Cheers!
Peter
Do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,now!
J.Lennon
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mixing up a small batch of epoxy,it's time to move smartly.
With perimeter frame epoxied and temporarily secured with drywall screws,I take off the gloves for a quick half-way-through-the-job picture of the thickened epoxy spread out to recieve the doubler.These are always weird pictures for me as they show something that will never again ever be seen once completed.
A dozen dry wall screws are spaced by the eye-ball method and driven home to snug the doubler panel evenly into the epoxy.
The squeeze out is then used to form a wee fillet around the perimeter of the doubler panel and as much excess epoxy removed while it is still soft.
Another view of the udder side of da hatch cover and the wee fillets. At some point however, one must stop fussing with the epoxy and just let it cure or else you just make a worse mess of things with the epoxy slowly going to a rubber phase.
The hatch,by the way, is sitting on a few 2X3s laid underneath it to prevent the dry wall screws from damaging the berth flat bellow it as the screws are slightly longer than the 1" thickness of the joined panels. A couple of hand clamps are located in the middle of the ends to snug down on the framing stock as only two drywall screws were used to secure these bits and the middle wasn't perfectly snug.....OCD acting up again!
"Alright Tenner, it's almost 05:00pm and they're about to close the yard so get the hell outta here and don't worry, I'll watch the epoxy cure for ya, you fool!"
Oh, before I forget,Simon says "Hi folks!"
Cheers!
Peter
Do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,now!
J.Lennon
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Hope springs eternal Darren!
As for the plywood, I ordered it from Simpson Ply, now Olympic Panel out west. It is their MDO Crezon TWO STEP with a few sheets of their SIGNAL brand for interior stuff. Very nice stuff, as far as MDO goes and probably right near the top in quality amongst MDO manufacturers.
http://www.olypanel.com/common/pdf/C...0-%2011-07.pdf
http://www.olypanel.com/common/pdf/S...it%2011-07.pdf
http://www.olypanel.com/
Cheers!
Peter
Do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,now!
J.Lennon
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I've been meaning to ask you Saltiguy,why the reminder for sanding? Have you finally discovered that inner zone of glowing light and chanting maidens which one experiences when one discovers the zen of sanding? I hope so and good on ya!
Cheers!
Peter
Do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,now!
J.Lennon
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"It needs more sanding" was the default answer to any question asked to my old shop teacher. He was pretty much deaf from years of not using hearing protection, but the answer was true most of the time, nobody bothered to sand properly.
1947 Nordic Folkboat "Nina"
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It's the girlfriend, Peter. I'd much prefer to see photos of her performing her craft, than pictures of you drinking beer and playing with Master Bates.
Please - don't take it personally.
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