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Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
I never thought I'd miss Tim Hortons. When I stayed in Alberta I used to have a feud with them over the wasted resources of giving out double cups, but in reality I found all kinds of uses for the extra cupsOriginally Posted by P.L.Lenihan
I was a bit disappointed, though, I had hoped the French speaking community would've pushed for some café au lait and some croissants instead of the doughnuts, but then again, I was in Alberta
1947 Nordic Folkboat "Nina"
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Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
And that is just one of the many reasons why I stayed here in Quebec instead of following the herd Westward during the threatening "separation" years.Café au lait and croissants are de rigeur hereII was a bit disappointed, though, I had hoped the French speaking community would've pushed for some café au lait and some croissants instead of the doughnuts, but then again, I was in Alberta
Peter
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J.Lennon
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Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
After too many failed attempts to mention, regarding dividing things by 3, I hit upon the brilliant solution of bringing the staving close enough to just divide by 2! Now that is something even I can handle with aplomb!
This view of the lower end of a newly installed North bound aft staving...
and the upper view of the same thing.
And this here is the linear result of this new install. In my dreams it would have been too sweet had it worked out as a nice round number like, say oh...6"...., but beggars canna be choosers!
And as if that wasn't enough fun, the darned staving was still not perfectly parallel! Here we can see my simple attempt at finding the center.....
and another failed attempt as one side came out at 2 and 3/8" and the other at 2 and 11/16".Go figure!This was clearly no time for my two neurons to take a beer break! and I would have to switch from a micro view to a macro vision for an easier solution.
Tenner
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J.Lennon
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Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
So with my macro vision goggles on,I simply measured the top,measured the bottom,discoverd the difference and divided this number by two. This final figure is what I would have to remove from the South bound forward staving to bring things perfectly parallel.
And so the good services of Samuel S. Sharpie were called upon to trace a clean line along the aluminium yard stick.
Zero at the near end.....
and a whole bunch of 1/16"s at the other end.
With my little block plane all sharp and warm, all I had to do was stick out my tongue ever so slightly and blow the sound of a wide opened turbo charged 4pack and it became a powerful electric plane to match anything available in Ontario
Virtually impossible to tell by this photo but the edges are no longer parallel and a fresh bevel has been put back on the trimmed edge.
Peter
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J.Lennon
This boat was built with ten thumbs.No fingers were harmed in anyway.
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Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
Can you give us an update on Mario and that slutty Magic Marker?
Has she worn him down to a nub yet?
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Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
'Mornin' Mr.Ledger,
Well,since you asked, sluty Lucy Liquidtip has been raising hell in my tool box ever since she met up with Raol Raspfile.....the two of them just have no sense of decency whatsoever I tell you! I'm almost afraid to open the toolbox with all the racket they make.
And as for Mario,well, his son Manual is going to have a little sister soon.But him and the missus are doing just fine and Manual is shaping up to be a fine drawer of lines,in fact,every bit as fine as his old man. And speaking of old, Mario has begun to let drop hints of retirement! My,oh my, where does the time go?!
Have a good productive day Mr.Ledger...hope its a mild one too!
Tenner
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J.Lennon
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Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
They fit!
With a rare bit of fine good luck, the two remaining staves,once trimmed actually fit right in there as if they always belonged.Because of the second step ladder sorta being in the way, I couldn't get a nice straight on photo to show the tighness of the seams but if it weren't for the paired screws seen here, you'd be hard pressed to spot the last two additions...
Looking up at the lucky pair of staves. I must say it was an odd experience for me to see them installed.For suddenly, instead of me seeing a broad expanse of not-yet-staved cabin side with some staves heading South and others going North it was all "Presto" done. Hmmmm..... even that doesn't sound right regarding how it felt leading up to these last two staves.Perhaps it is one of those"ya had to be there" experiences.
With those two filler staves done, I still had another three staves to install for my daily 5 stave quota.( 5 per day just happens to work out right for me as it makes a convenient epoxy batch size and fits with the available time at the boat yard). Here we can see where the other three staves ended up,beside the window openings.
Looking up above the window cut-out, the keen eyed may notice something,like a filler piece of sorts, running across the top of one opening
and the other. This here is another one of those lucky last minute discoveries which a largish boat project can sometimes present to you.The actual cut-outs had been done some time ago,before the cabin insulation and roof molding install, in fact, and because I can never get a nice side view of the whole boat from within the bow shed, I just took it all for granted that all was well.At anyrate, when it came time to eventually frame up the window with the 2" pine framing stock(which I had all cut before hand based on the measurements taken from one of the forward window openings) these verticals here were all too short. Thinking at first that I had somehow mis-cut the framing stock, I measured them but they were correct.So I did the next obvious thing,measured the window opening....voila!....I had cut the bugger about 5/8" too tall! Somehow, in all the early excitement of finally cutting out all 12 window openings, I had grown cocky and mis-read my measuring tape! The fix was quick and easy,as you may imagine, and taught me to at least make some attempt at keeping focused when cutting stuff!
and this here is the following day, with screws removed and the MDO nicely sanded in preparation for the short staves.
Cheers!
Peter
Last edited by P.L.Lenihan; 02-26-2009 at 04:47 AM.
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J.Lennon
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Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
This little bit is just for Mr.Ledger and anyone else who gets down abit during the annual winterlude.
Remember it could be a whole lot worse, like this poor chap who lost it one day while I was off to the bowshed.
But nice things happen too! Like the day I heard a mighty rumbling sound outside my bowshed.Opened the door to see what the hell was going on and see this backing out from right beside my bowshed!
Gee wiz and golly gee(ok,that's not really how you pronounce what I said in French!) one of the yard crew was removing some of the snow right beside my bowshed!
and even cleared a proper entrance for me instead of my usual meandering foot path!
Isn't that sweet! A real parking space for invited guests and royalty.....that is, if Mr.Ledger ever feels like going for a looooong drive!
And looky here, a real bonifide walk-in freezer right inside the bowshed.Man-O-Man them folks at Stimson Marine really thought of everything when they designed the bowshed,didn't they?! What's this?? A beer I see being kept properly chilled? Hmmmm......you've got ta be quick around here if you wanna visit and share some suds and lies!
Keep a good thought!
Peter, spoiled rotten I is,just rotten!!
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J.Lennon
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Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
Some unusual looking craft behind that bucket loader. Are those Lion's heads I see?
PS What's all that white stuff?
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Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
Peter
I will tell you that at times things get rough up here too, I have run out of beer and had to switch to rum or run out of rum and had to switch to beer, sometimes I get so many visitors that it gets cool in here from the door opening and closing, sometimes I have to turn the heat off as it can get too warm with all these people in here, I am not ready to trade spaces just yet, though I do have a great amount of respect for your ability to keep working in such adverse conditions, your help is quite attractive , my better half is reluctant to venture into the shop, she only enters if it appears that I need some supervision to help one her projects along or to varnish . My most consistant company or beverage drinkers are two hairly large men that scare small children. I am glad to see that the staves went well and am looking forward to your continued progress.
Yours in the warmth Darren
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Hey Saltiguy!
Naw, those aren't lions' heads on that power catamaran, those are carvings of the heads of the original owners of the boat done as a gift to them from one of their artist friends. Weird,I know, but this is Quebec
That big white thing behind the loader was originally a steel 40 footer, which was later stretched to a 60 footer by new owners who made her into an excursion boat.This latest iteration is the result of stretching the 60 footer to a now 80 footer by the newest owners who plan on offering"exclusive" tours of the Montreal harbour in her.They drew up the plans themselves(an electrician and a school teacher) and saved lots of money by by-passing a navel architect.....pretty neat, eh? I call it a bankruptcy waiting to happen but they think they will get rich.......I wish them well
As for the other white stuff, I like to think of it as frozen angle tears from all the laughing and partying that must go on in the heavens but pedestrians call it "snow". Ya want some?
Keep a good thought!
Peter
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J.Lennon
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Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
"adverse conditions"? You've gotta be kiddin' me! It is perfect!To wit;I can make all the noise I want, with no neighbours to complain.I can make all the dust I want,with no neighbours to complain.I can run 220 heaters 24/7, with no extra cost to absorb.I can luxuriate in the warming rays of the sun,while never having to go outside.I can have parties with lots of drinkers,smokers and loud music, with no neighbours to complain.I can play with all sorts of toxic stuff,with no neighbours to complain.I can piss outdoors to my hearts content,with no neighbours to complain.I can scream,holler and curse,with no neighbours to complain.I can play "boatbuilder" all day,with no neighbours to complain.But best of all, at the end of the day, I just drive away as if it never happened
Luxury Darren,pure luxury I tell you!
Peter the spoiled..........
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J.Lennon
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Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
For reasons known only to those who really understand wood, some of my staving planks,which were perfectly straight and true when cut, took on some really interesting curves or bows.The milder bows,as we have seen, are relatively easy to address with a wee bit of persuasion from a clamp and wedge.But some of the bows are just too much. Do I throw these staves away? Do I return them to the lumber yard and get a refund? Nope! I make the short staves which go over and bellow the window openings.
Luckily, my window openings are 16" wide and the staves are 3" wide,thus making it impossible to fit an even 5 short staves above and bellow the window openings.This means I must plane down my staves a bit narrower to get 6 staves in place.With this planing, I can effectively plane off the"curve" of the stave and get me some nice parallel staving shorties.
A rear end view of a shorty with beveled edges.
The outside face of a shorty,beveled,drilled and sanded.
A nice group photo of the twelve shorties ready to be installed bellow the two port side aft stateroom windows.
With the MDO surface already well sanded(prepped),A nice bed of thickened epoxy is spread around with a 3/16" X 3/16" trowel.Don't mix your epoxy too thick,otherwise you'll only have trouble getting it to squeeze down snuggly,especially if you are only using some number 6 screws.The epoxy should be like chilled mayonaise.Here the first shorty has been pushed down firmly,by hand, into the epoxy and the screws ready to be driven in for a snug hold.
and the following shorty is in place.Before placing the next shorty,I like to just pick up some of the spread out epoxy and lay some on the edge of the precious stave.This way, I can be reasonably assured the staving edges are glued and sealed to each other.....no place for rot to get its' evil hold on things!
Cheers!
Peter
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J.Lennon
This boat was built with ten thumbs.No fingers were harmed in anyway.
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Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
Mr. Lemonhands,
The Intervention Committee had a brief teleconference last night, and - in light of the fine production of beautiful fotos recently - has decided to extend the moratorium on Intervention for another few months. Keep up the good work. And just between the two of us... I think it'd be better if you said nothing to the other committee members about the shipment of port you're preparing for Oregon. Folla?
"Writing well means never having to say... I guess you had to be there" -- Jef Mallett
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Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
Carrying on with fun stuff...........
Six down and six to go!
12 down and time to repeat the whole process one more time for the shorties which go over the window openings.
Just in passing, this here is my favorite wet epoxy scraping/clean-up tool.Vital for leaving next to nothing in terms of epoxy globs,which is a good thing as it is far easier to work neat with epoxy then to consume hours valuable hours sanding off the stuff you didn't bother to scrape up right away.
Same happy group of twelve, now seen from aft looking forward.
Not wishing to bore you to tears with the whole process once again, these upper window shorties were all done exactly the same way.The only difference being that these got installed while standing near the top of the step ladder.....oh my aching feet/back/arms/knees.....I wonder, is it possible to be too old for this much fun?
Cheers!
Peter
Hey! Is it just my monitor or are some of these photos bigger then the others?!?! What happened, or more correctly, what did I do wrong? Hmmmm...twiddling my thumbs as if this will make me computer literate ha!
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J.Lennon
This boat was built with ten thumbs.No fingers were harmed in anyway.
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Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
Dear Mr.G,
I cannot begin to express sufficiently the lightness with which my heart rejoiced upon reading this terribly good bit of news regarding the extension of the moratorium.It is not without frayed nerves that I must confess to having surrendered a considerable number of precious sleeping hours fretting over the Intervention Committees' initial meeting and their considered reflections concerning vectors various witnessed by all and committed by me here in a fashion most public.
At the time of the first notification recieved by me from the Intervention Committee, I was at first shocked but quickly regained a more composed and sage posture, not wishing to further offend,obfuscate or render sterile the honourable members of said committee.Later,upon completion of various required sacred rites and oaths,not to mention the introduction and consumption of vaste quantities of magic elixirs most potent, I was, in fact ,finally able to fully comply and adhere to the protocols and standards of the Intervention Committee. Fail me not now memory but I also recall expressing my sincere and heart felt gratiude for your choice and select use of cunning and bamboozling with your peers of the committee toward winning me my much appreciated moratorium. You may never fully know,Mr.G., just how precariously close I came to asking the august members of the committee, to take their much vaunted moratorium and run it up their rectoriums,with vigorium, I might add. But as your fellow countrymen are fond of saying,"close only counts in horse shoes." and I am relieved that I did not take top honours that day in horse shoe tossing!
Speaking of tossings various,and I trust you to know that this is said in the strictest of confidence, just between the two of us, but pray tell what is this business of an imminent preparation of shipments to Oregon may I ask? While I may at times appear dense and rather short in the marbles department, the tiny hairs found nestled in the palms of my hands nearly bristled at what,at first blush,appears to be a sly solicitation for some finely fermented and blended grape juice,sometimes refered to as"mothers milk" or simply"medicine". Kindly and at your own convenience provide some much need illumination in this matter for I dare not expose myself once more to the all seeing eyes of the Intervention Committees' Disciplinary department.
Awaiting further instructions,
I remain, despite steadfast attempts to the contrary,
you humble and obediant,
wackjob.
Sincerely,
Peter
Last edited by P.L.Lenihan; 02-15-2009 at 11:50 PM.
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J.Lennon
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Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
With the shorties all taken care of, we move brightly along toward the light at the end of the tunnel......
A small group of three staves are added to the ever narrowing space left to apply staving to.
A lower shot of the same group.Some may also see a doodle in the lower right hand corner just above the rubrail......pay no attention to it and try not to let your mind conjure up titillating images!
Once again, my spidey sense is tingling as I approach the very end of the cabin. Not yet accustomed to exactly what the tingling means, I ease up a bit on the excitement of laying in the staving too fast and just add another 4 instead of the usual 5.....to be safe.
The lower end of same and the source of my tingling.....the folding ruler! There it was resting on the rubrail and trying desperately to communicate with me! Shame I don't speak Rulerese.
So,hauling out the aluminium yard stick( I like the feel of cold metal against my skin,reminds me of a past gf) I discover what it was the folding ruler was trying to get me to notice. How the hell does one divide 20 and 9/16" by 3 again?
Cheers!
Peter
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J.Lennon
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Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
One doesn't have to, do one? The nice thing about building a boat is that you can do a beautiful job without knowing any more mathematics than addition or subtraction. Erudition, a large impressive vocabulary and perfect speeling are similarly useless, except for impressing other easily impressed Forumites in your posts.
Leave the long division of mixed fractions for the professors and get yourself a pair of dividers for this kind of layout. No numbers involved and a level of precision possible that'll leave them scratching their egg-shaped domes.
Last edited by Jim Ledger; 02-14-2009 at 10:51 AM.
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6 7/8" weak , so your off a 1/16th , so what , warm / dry out / heat one board 15 deg. or so and your right on. Or use dividers and Maro when he's sharp not worn down to a dull nub by that harlot Ruby Red Lips or what ever that hotties name is.
Those staves are that wide? I better read back and see , they look to be about 3 " or so. Or maybe I'm missing your cryptic point ? Althought generally I find the point to be the top-O- me ead. Top of my head for those "phonically challenged" to my wit , or lack there of.
Nice thread Mr. Tenner keep it up
Off to work , we'll see what Mr . Jim has to say tonight about my "stu-pit" comments here
Last edited by Paul Girouard; 02-14-2009 at 11:34 AM.
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Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
First you have to ask the correct question, right Paul?
The answer you're looking for is two and fifteen sixteenths, if you feel better working with a number.
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Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
Ya 20 9/16 " divided by 7 would be 2 15/16" , maybe that was Tenner's point???
Maybe he should work in metric? 522.2875 MM divided by 7 = 74.6125 MM , ya that would be way easier
OK the dog at the groomer and NOW I'm off to the side liner
Later dudes
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Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
Mebbe.
Some days, I'll argue anything with anybody.
Say something. Anything. Don't matter.
Peter, what's around the corner?
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Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
See there Tenner.That's what I'm talking about. How a man can reach his prime without having aquired a reasonable selection of these useful appurtenances is beyond me. I'm reaching for these little beauties at least half a dozen times a day to solve the various spatial division conundrums that constantly beset me, without having to resort to error-prone head-scratchin' figgerin and pencil sharpenin'. You'd a had these, youd'a saved yourself a world a grief.
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Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
Dear Paragon of all that is productive and good.
All I can say is: "render sterile"???? EEEEK
Now as to the important shipment... Perhaps you have not yet received the request. I'm sure it'll be along sometime. Trust me when I say, however, that the requested shipment will be for large quantities of your best Port. So, until the day the letter arrives, I can only suggest that you stock up on quantities of the highest quality magic elixer. My only other suggestion is that you keep a firm hand on the quality control. A disciplined approach to regular sampling will forstall any degradation of quality, and a constant turnover of stock will be of aid as well, I'd think
Please do not lose a further thought, nor bit of sleep about the Committee. I'll be here, looking out for your interests.
And please do keep these wonderful fotos coming. I'm lovin' it. And, of course, we wouldn't want to get the Committee restless, eh?
Cheers,
David G
I drink to your health when I'm with you
I drink to your health when I'm alone
I drink to your health so often
I'm commencin' to worry 'bout my own
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Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
Oh brother,,,,,,,,, what a photo this is
Ya gotta love this place eh
Maybe a caption contest??
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Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
Did someone say"Caption contest"? Alrighty then,I'll go first........
A photo of what the young Gallilei Galileo must of looked like just after he told his Dad,"take a hike Pops,I'm off to discover the phases of Venus,have some moons named after me and may even develope a better compass! Woodworking is for wimps and beavers!"
Next!
Peter
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J.Lennon
This boat was built with ten thumbs.No fingers were harmed in anyway.
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Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
Now you tell me! Darnit! I've got some dividers somewhere here abouts.....I'll have to go foraging this Monday......then I'll be back pestering you with how to use them for things other then making perfect circles
Thanks in advance Mr.Ledger!
Tenner
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J.Lennon
This boat was built with ten thumbs.No fingers were harmed in anyway.
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Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
Hi Mr.Girouard,6 7/8" weak , so your off a 1/16th , so what , warm / dry out / heat one board 15 deg. or so and your right on. Or use dividers and Maro when he's sharp not worn down to a dull nub by that harlot Ruby Red Lips or what ever that hotties name is.
Those staves are that wide? I better read back and see , they look to be about 3 " or so. Or maybe I'm missing your cryptic point ? Althought generally I find the point to be the top-O- me ead. Top of my head for those "phonically challenged" to my wit , or lack there of.
Nice thread Mr. Tenner keep it up
Off to work , we'll see what Mr . Jim has to say tonight about my "stu-pit" comments here
Sorry for not being clearer. The picture shows the distance remaining before getting to the end of the cabin side.The staves are indeed 3" wide,thus when one(or many
Cheers!
Peter
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J.Lennon
This boat was built with ten thumbs.No fingers were harmed in anyway.
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Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
As we wait for the cavalcade of comedy to begin with the "photo caption contest", we can amuse ourselves with more boat fun!
This here is the other photo I should have included,along with a better explaination regarding the "dividing by 3" detail mentioned earlier.The end of the cabin lays just at the end of the yard stick.
Oh, please control your selves when viewing the doodles.
Speaking of those doodles, I finally have recalled what they were for.For those not interested in knowing,kindly carry on bellow with the photos to preserve your sanity.
So, admitting to being a dim witted neuron challenged type of guy who is visually oriented(can only count the fingers he SEES),them thar doodles represent my child-like attempts at visualizing(read: calculating) how much wood I was going to have to buy for the staving project. I already knew I wanted 3/8" thick staves and that these could be gotten out(split) of(from) 4/4 stock.I also knew that I only had to figure out the number of 4/4 plank stock required for just one side since splitting the stock in two would provide the staves for the other side of the cabin.Furthermore, I also knew the lumber yard had their Sipo all cut to,more or less,8 foot lengths and 9 inch widths.Thus,with my staves coming out at near 45 1/2" long and 3"wide, each that would produce 8 full length staves per Sipo plank. Are you still with me on this?
So, the humps and peaks of the doodles represent both full planks and half planks of Sipo,to me, and this was how I was able to go to the lumber yard and ask,with confidence, for exactly so many planks of Sipo.The exact number escapes me now and is probably lost in the ever mounting piles of dust lingering here abouts
All of this crazy fun is just another one of those happy occurances which can only happen through poverty.Yessirree, no such thing as just showing up at the lumber yard with a blank cheque and saying,"I'll take that pile over thar." No way! A bloke has to know in advance exactly how much excavating will have to take place in is wallet before hand.I sleep better too!
Now,back to pictures................
So,having "calculated" how much some staves would have to be trimmed to keep things looking nice and even, fine lines were traced onto the staves and slender slivers were removed with my compact portable band saw.
With surgical precision, my ten thumbs and four eyes gingerly guides the saw along just to the "outside" of the line.
Once a suitable number of staves have recieved their hair cuts,it is now time for a shave,with the razor removing those unsightly ink lines.
With the lines removed and the sides now as smooth as a babies bum,fresh bevels are put back onto the staves and voila! Bob's yer uncle! We can now go back to picking strawberries!
Cheers!
Peter
Do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,now!
J.Lennon
This boat was built with ten thumbs.No fingers were harmed in anyway.
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Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
Dear Mr.G.,Now as to the important shipment... Perhaps you have not yet received the request. I'm sure it'll be along sometime. Trust me when I say, however, that the requested shipment will be for large quantities of your best Port. So, until the day the letter arrives, I can only suggest that you stock up on quantities of the highest quality magic elixer. My only other suggestion is that you keep a firm hand on the quality control. A disciplined approach to regular sampling will forstall any degradation of quality, and a constant turnover of stock will be of aid as well, I'd think
Please do not lose a further thought, nor bit of sleep about the Committee. I'll be here, looking out for your interests.
Cheers,
David G
Indeed I have yet to recieve any communication whatsoever,be it through pony express,carrier pigeon or, the ever popular, rock-through-window method, pertaining to shipments of any goods regardless their importance. Perhaps rocks have suddenly become scarce?
The crate of Port laid up for this winters bit of bowshed fun has,sadly,been growing lighter by the week.While this may appear to shed a less than glowing bit of light on my otherwise sterling reputation as a teetotaler(and a terrible liar), let me assure you this "lightness" has been more due to extreme cold weather,my inquisitive taste buds and lastly,my sincere desire to maintain a reputation for offering quality refreshment to visitors various. Aye, a nasty bit of work this is, but someone must attend to it for the sake of all that is right and just in this world.
Your kind suggestion to begin "stocking up" on further bottles of Port in preparation for later shipment,combined with the recommendation of "keeping a firm hand on quality control" can only lead to much mirth on my side and one un-quenched thirst on your side. I say this, without blinking, for what you suggest and recommend appears to be nothing less than a fine recipe for a viscous cycle of Port buying immediately followed by Port testing which can only inspire further buying and testing as ones tongue and throat become progessively pickled to the point of pure purple palliations regarding the(your!) never-arriving shipment! A situation Sir we must labour to avoid at all costs!
Upon further reflection and ruminant relish, may I be so bold as to suggest the taking of, for lack of a better word,baby steps in this important endeavour so as to allow you the enjoyment of sipping(yes,we sip around these parts Sir, leaving the gulping,chugging and guzzling to the bootless and unhorsed masses!) a beverage known best for its' medicinal properties?
I will await,with tumbler in fist, for your considered reply to my suggestion and look forward to further details regarding shipping news.
Trusting that this memo finds you and yours well,fit and happy,
I remain,
drunk
with fun!
Peter
Do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,now!
J.Lennon
This boat was built with ten thumbs.No fingers were harmed in anyway.
Senior Member
Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
UP, its not a direction.
Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
as per the photo contest it at first light appears to me we have a gent that "has a little captain in him" but less we forget we have a man of tent/bowshed stricken, frozen to the core, lip stick deprived, boat builder!
he needs all the comfort he can get, whether it be putting lipstick on wood, or enjoying "spirits"
The man in this photo seems to have great, undeniable amounts of jubilation none-the-less caused by this implement of 'tool' if you will from which he divides linear distances and circumscribes areas.
Sure its looks fine now, wait till your in 100ft of water!
Junior Cinq-etoile
Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
I applaud your entry Falcon500 in the Photo Caption Contest.Nicely done! Now ,if only more would jump right in instead of playing hide-n-seek with the dust bunnies,well,it would be fun
Perhaps I should offer a prize? Whadya think Mr.Girouard? How about a nice new one-size-fits-all adjustable ball cap with a laughing polar bear embroidered on the front,since many here abstain from the demon drink
Come on out lurkers and join the fun!
Cheers!
Peter
Do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,now!
J.Lennon
This boat was built with ten thumbs.No fingers were harmed in anyway.
Junior Cinq-etoile
Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
Staving fun carries on!
A view from outside the mini-shelter of just how dangerously close I'm finally coming to the end of the cabin side.
Another outside shot,different angle and yes,one clamp and wedge to deal with a slight bow in the staves.Gotta be careful to keep them perfectly parallel to the end of the cabin!
A close up showing how little wedging as required to get the stave to sit right.
And here we are inside looking aft at the same thing....thankfully my little heater on full throttle was able to keep things reasonably warm,especially up at staving height as the cold air rushed in from bellow.
Looking up,way up! Just three staves to go! Now, some may well be heard to utter from the back of the room,"Tenner you clown!Why didn't you just go ahead and finish it up......Jaysus it's only three more staves afterall!?!"
Well, to be perfectly blunt about it, the reason was that my psyche,nay my very soul, had been stricken with a dreadful blow so powerful that my two neurons were left vibrating in the wilderness of my cranium and my momentum all but stopped dead in its' tracks. Serious contemplation would now be required to overcome this unpleasant state of inertia and a really big helpin' of Port to retard,perforce, any knee-jerk reactions hovering just bellow the surface of my otherwise calm and collected demeanour.
The powerful blow? Coming up in the next post.Promise!
Cheers,
Tenner
Do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,now!
J.Lennon
This boat was built with ten thumbs.No fingers were harmed in anyway.
Junior Cinq-etoile
Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
As promised, the powerful blow,
Which of these scews is not like the others,not like the others oh which of these screws is not like the others..........If you guessed the one without a head, BINGO!
Just prior to laying in those last staves in the previous posting, I went about the backing out and removal of the screws from the previous days work.Usually, when I can get to the screws within 24 hours, the epoxy is plenty hard enough under the staves to not require the screws but still soft enough to not have taken a death hold on the screws. With a slight warm spell happening outside combined with the bright sun of the previous day,temperatures in the mini-shelter that day made it up to near +30C. Although I was more then happy to be working in those condtions, I had failed to fully account for this temperatures effect on the epoxy...it cured harder and quicker than expected! It is my worst nightmare in a 1000 screw project!
I should have been more pro-active,especially when I felt more then usual resistance while backing out the screws.....and to think how I had coached my gf just the previous week about how"we" can't be too careful with these things,darling!
This is what I should have gone for right from the get go!
it works every time all the time the first time!Darn,damn and double darn again!!!
Broken screw extraction has never been my forté especially from surfaces expected to be finished bright and perfect. After some mighty pulls from the Port tumbler and a few puffs on the old cigar, a possible solution presented itself through the all the smoke. The back and forth pacing also helped a bit too.
At any rate, I'll be back with pictures of how it goes........when I'm back from my upcoming stretch of days off.
Keep a good thought, enter the Caption Contest for the fun of it and have fun with your projects!
Cheers
Peter
Do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,now!
J.Lennon
This boat was built with ten thumbs.No fingers were harmed in anyway.
Salty Sinker
Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
I've used parafin was on the threads of screws to keep glues from sticking to them.Maybe it can help you.I get a nice smelling candle that's fairly large,say 4 inches or roughly 100mm.Get it burning good with a nice puddle of liquid wax,dip the threads until they are coated,and drive'em in.This will also help keep splits down,while driving screws in.I've used this method when building cabnets and furniture.It really helped me.
http://bensboatblog.blogspot.com/
When peeing over the side,remember,one hand for you,and one hand for the ship.
Proud Member Of The Elite LPBC.
Senior Member
Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
Don't know if you have managed to remove the broken screw yet, but if not, let me offer something that I saw in a magazine - maybe Fine Woodworking or Homebuilding.
In any event, since you are putting in bungs in any event, removing a bit of wood close to the screw shank should not be a problem to repair.
The item I remember from the magazine was to make a sort of a small hole saw by using a bit of metal pipe - probably brake line would work. File the one end with a 3 corner file to make about 4 teeth and chuck it in a drill. The pipe should slip over the end of the broken screw and remove a little bit of th wood nearest the shank. That may give you enough space to grab with something like needle nose vicegrips and turn the shank out - with your heat applied first of course.
Good luck!
Randy in Winnipeg
Senior Member
Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
Peter - I would really like to know how many hours you have invested to date and how many more you think are in store for you?
Also, if you don't object - what has it cost so far and what is the projected total cost?
Randy in Winnipeg
Senior Member
Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
[quote=P.L.Lenihan;2043693]
Ladies and Gentlemen,my new found friend,Harold the Heater! Some say he's nothing but a blowhard and full of nothing more then hot air,and you know what, they are correct! But I have taken something of a shinning to him,despite his miserably poor character, and always greet him with a friendly pat on the back. He is also great company for a solo worker and I can listen to him blowing his hot air all day long.Oh that Harold,man can he ever tell long tales! But I forgive him his shaggy dog tales....besides....he is so much like me!
Peter - Please be careful with Harold. He appears to be what is commonly known as a "construction heater". A very recent item in our daily paper suggests that these not be used in garages etc as they tend to catch fire. Apparently, when the element gives up, it is not uncommon for them to throw sparks and ignite things near by. I don't think I would leave him running when I was not present and I think I would have a good extinguisher near at hand.
You have done a phenominal amount of work and I would really hate to see it reduced to ashes.
Randy in Winnipeg
country member
Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
you're pretty grey for 48 mate.
..don't judge a man till you've walked a mile in his shoes..
Senior Member
Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
That grey is experience from working on wood boats! I know since I bought mine I grew a few in my beard.mind you it could have something to do with having teenagers too,the two seem to be working against me!
"Rise Again Majestic Spirit"
Senior Member #4610
Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
Photo caption contest eh? "You think the tool I use to divide is big? you should see the size of the one I use to multiply with!!"
Junior Cinq-etoile
Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
Well lookee here Mr.Ledger, I found my compass and it looks like the bambino to the big Daddy you have!
I would also like to apologize to folks and their eye sight for this less then perfect photo.Unlike our much admired and(shall I say it?) idolized Mr.Ledger who has often been mistaken for Al Pacino,Anthony Bourdain and other untold members from Balthelemy Murphys' book The Famous and Talented, I look like no one I know.
So now,with your indulgence if I may,I would greatly appreciate Mr.Ledgers' clear and concise directions toward the practical use of this compass for assisting me in my Sisyphian task of dividing things....ahem.....like my staves.
I await,with eternal patience, your instructions,Master.
Cheers!
Tenner
Do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,now!
J.Lennon
This boat was built with ten thumbs.No fingers were harmed in anyway.
Junior Cinq-etoile
Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
[quote=oldsub86;2106508]Hi Randy,
Peter - Please be careful with Harold. He appears to be what is commonly known as a "construction heater". A very recent item in our daily paper suggests that these not be used in garages etc as they tend to catch fire. Apparently, when the element gives up, it is not uncommon for them to throw sparks and ignite things near by. I don't think I would leave him running when I was not present and I think I would have a good extinguisher near at hand.
You have done a phenominal amount of work and I would really hate to see it reduced to ashes.
Randy in Winnipeg
You certainly know how to help deprive someone of sleep,my friend!Especially so since young Harold T. Heater has been operating non-stop since sometime before the Christmas holidays!
Upon reading what you wrote, the very first thing I did once at the bowshed was to re-read the owners manual which came with the heater.Apparently this heater is called a "garage heater" and is intended for continuous operation.They do warn against keeping things like curtains,linens and small children too close to the heater and recommend at 3 feet clearance.They also warn against using it when in the presence of explosive vapours like gasoline etc...However,and to their credit,they kept the most important warning for the last;Do not operate in or near the bathtub! Go figure.
At any rate, I thought I would take a closer look to see exactly which kind of heating element was within the heater since I have indeed seen them spark and toss out red hot embers of themselves when they auto-destruct.Expecting to see the familiar wire coil spring like heating element, I was surprised(and perhaps relieved!) to see this:
The heating element is bigger than the elements normally found on your conventional home stove/oven.This picture also shows the element no where close to being red hot.
Nevertheless, your warning is being seriously disruptive to restful sleep and I would enjoy hearing what your thoughts are,considering the type of heating element which actually resides inside of dear Harold T.Heater.That is to say, does the recent article you read specify the type of heating element used and does it recommend a prefered type? Anyone else reading this and who has or knows more about these heaters than I do,please feel free to add your thoughts.Besides, I do not need this kind of worrying...it could turn a fellow to drinking!
Thanks again Randy for your sincere concern......I hope,in a nice way, you are incorrect,if you know what I mean!
Cheers!
Peter
Do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,now!
J.Lennon
This boat was built with ten thumbs.No fingers were harmed in anyway.
Junior Cinq-etoile
Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
[quote=P.L.Lenihan;2104878]Did someone say"Caption contest"?
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A photo of what the young Gallilei Galileo must of looked like just after he told his Dad,"take a hike Pops,I'm off to discover the phases of Venus,have some moons named after me and may even develope a better compass! Woodworking is for wimps and beavers!"(Peter L.)
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we have a gent that "has a little captain in him" but less we forget we have a man of tent/bowshed stricken, frozen to the core, lip stick deprived, boat builder!
he needs all the comfort he can get, whether it be putting lipstick on wood, or enjoying "spirits"
The man in this photo seems to have great, undeniable amounts of jubilation none-the-less caused by this implement of 'tool' if you will from which he divides linear distances and circumscribes areas.
(Flacon500)
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Visit us on our next episode of "Anthony Bourdain: No Reservations" for "Foods Around the World that Taste Like Wood, and How to Divide Them". (Botebum)
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you're pretty grey for 48 mate. (floatingkiwi) *Not sure this was intended as a caption or a comment to someone but will err on the side of inclusion rather then exclusion
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"You think the tool I use to divide is big? you should see the size of the one I use to multiply with!!" (Sailor)
Just a little up-date on the photo caption contest entries and a gentle reminder that the contest closes Feb 23 at midnight.The lucky winner will win a nice comfy ball cap with an embroidered laughing polar bear on the front.Multiple entries are encouraged too!
Cheers!
Peter, (who is not eligible.....for obvious reasons!)
P.S.
I hope Scott doesn't frown on this sort of shenanigan!
Do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,now!
J.Lennon
This boat was built with ten thumbs.No fingers were harmed in anyway.
Junior Cinq-etoile
Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
Six of one and half a dozen of the other Glenn! But I dare say the boat will keep your romantic heart young forever!
Peter
Do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,now!
J.Lennon
This boat was built with ten thumbs.No fingers were harmed in anyway.
Junior Cinq-etoile
Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
Hi Randy,
To answer your first question, I do not keep an accurate account of my hours for the simple reason that it would take away from all the fun I've been having
I would like to see myself launched sometime this summer,maybe by the end of June. But be carefull, I have a terrible reputation for being an eternal optimist!
As to your second question regarding costs; I really haven't a clue at this point. I did take a solemn oath at the very beginning, however, to keep all my receipts and to this I have been true, with nice folders made up for each passing year into which the receipts get stuffed. It is my intention, and my gf has been fore-warned, that shortly after launching day I am reserving an entire weekend for myself whereupon I plan on heading out on the river to anchor in a nice sheltered bay at one of the many un-inhabited islands around here.Once securely anchored, I will begin to add up the final costs.Accompanying me will be one electronic calculator and a very fine selection of robust red Ports to either drown my sorrows once the finally tally is revealed or to have one hell of a celebration.
I'll let y'all know,once I gets there
Keep a good thought!
Peter
Do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,now!
J.Lennon
This boat was built with ten thumbs.No fingers were harmed in anyway.
Junior Cinq-etoile
Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
So there I was, feeling stumped and frustrated at that darned broken screw when I am informed that Harold T.Heater may one day set the whole party ablaze! Man o man what a bummer to toss onto the pile! And just when I was beginning to think things can't get any worse now, I get my usual delivery of rubber gloves for epoxy work and the clowns sent me this....................
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A box of 500 right handed gloves only!Those idiots!
Cheers!
Peter
Do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,now!
J.Lennon
This boat was built with ten thumbs.No fingers were harmed in anyway.
Seafaring Member
Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
If it says in the manual that you can run the heater unattended, then you probably can. It doesn't look to bad, although I have never owned one myself.
I think I've also seen an oil-filled radiator in some of the pictures, they have a history of catching fire when left unattended as well. It's not a good idea to fill a heating element with a flammable liquid!
I can tell you what is safe to leave unattended, and that's regular domestic wall-mounted heating elements. I've never in my life even heard of one of those catching fire. Not very practical in a bowshed, though, but perhaps it can be mounted on a frame. I have a spare one myself, I might give it a try at some point.
1947 Nordic Folkboat "Nina"
Junior Cinq-etoile
Re: Just fore the fun of it:)
With all due respect Mr.Ledger and apologies to the Missus, but would not those creative juices being used to tweek the back story to your picture(see above)be put to better use: A) funning away on your boat project and/or B) explaining how to use those dividers?
Just a thought,don't mind me,Master.
Tenner, about to waddle out the door, after a Kings' breakfast, to the boat and play boatbuilder, some mora,right there on the flora..........
Do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,do it,now!
J.Lennon
This boat was built with ten thumbs.No fingers were harmed in anyway.
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