Just fore the fun of it:)

[PeterSibley]

Peter , a truly professional job !! Congratulations !

[P.L.Lenihan]

Thank you gentlemen! Lucky is I who cannot be seen blushing from behind the screen!


Peter

[P.L.Lenihan]

O.K., I've think I've got the blushing under control now, so let's move on to the next batch of work; drawer trim

Here is a nice nervous Nelly photo of how I opted to trim the outside faces of my drawers,all eight of them. The draws are all out of 1/2" MDO plywood,held together with epoxy in the rabbets.The trim moldings mahogany.


The bottom panel for the draws,is 1/4" oak veneer,set into a nice slot with epoxy.



Those little spring clamps helped to hold the works together but the set-up really needed some temporary screws,driven from inside the drawer,to stop the trim from a slippin'-n-a slidin' all over the place while the epoxy cured.



No glues or screws here yet, just a dry fit set-up to see how the whole thing would look. If you look at the lower left hand side of the picture, you can just make out a drawer without the trim pieces. So that is why the trim pieces are needed! To fill the generous gap and,of course,for that forever-sought-after,"yachty" look!


Same shot,different angle, and a peek at a not yet"perfect" miter cut.I tried really hard not to think too hard about the 64 blasted 45s I would have to cut"perfectly" for all the drawers. Oh how I would have given my left nut for a real miter box and saw kit! But poverty does have its' rewards,namely, the nuanced pleasure of learning how to use a tri-square and jig saw


Peter

[L.W. Baxter]

Nifty radiused door mouldings, P.L..

I've been enjoying this fast forward build sequence. A bit mystified by the first pictures of all those vertical panels, but I'm starting to see what you're on about now.

[P.L.Lenihan]

So the real stuff begins.I had determined that the screws alone would help fix the trim pieces in place and that real clamps would be needed to properly hold the works firmly and flatly in place. The trim moldings had taken on a very very slight twist due to temperature fluctuations in my "shop".


And anudder one getting the clamps put to it.A good close look will also reveal the faying surface of the MDO has been lighty abraded to allow a better wicking surface for the thickened epoxy.
Most of these pictures show my"shop" aka master stateroom.The yellow legs in the above photo are the stand for the twin halogen work lamps.Yes there is a veritable mess happening all over the berth and no shortage of saw dust and cut-offs sprinkeled about. I always get a good chuckle when on other threads,folks show photos of their work shops and the hounds all yelp at either the presence or absence of saw dust. I just sit back in my chair,stunned silly by the wonderful collection of stationary wood working tools, great lighting and lots of space! The stuff of dreams I tells ya!


Chaos reigns! The masters' berth crowded with drawers,,so crowded had to set some on their side while running out of clamps!




The lucky linen drawer,being twice as wide as the rest of the drawers,gets its' own special assembly space;the forward dinette seat in the main salon.Visible here also is the mahogany cap for the wainscotting in the background and, atop the drawer, my ultra-specialized,scientifically graduated yogurt cup, aka,epoxy mixing cup for small batches.



And to think that while I was having so much fun inside the boat playing cabinet maker my poor bowshed was putting up with this stuff outside.Oh the shame of it! For those unfortunate folks who have spent their entire lives living in the forever-warm-n-sunny tropical regions, that is not white sand


Peter

[P.L.Lenihan]

Nifty radiused door mouldings, P.L..

I've been enjoying this fast forward build sequence. A bit mystified by the first pictures of all those vertical panels, but I'm starting to see what you're on about now.

Thanks L.W.Baxter! It is always a gentle treat to read that some folks are actually enjoying this little picture essay of my fun. If by the "vertical panels" you are refering to the wainscotting,its' purpose is to protect the styrofoam insulation from nervous,twitchy,fingers when the wind and waves pick up. I do not recall where I first saw a picture of this treatment on a boat but I think it looks better then a normal and typical ceiling or the other alternative, simple paneling for this particular design. I hope to achieve a "yachty" look from another era(think Edwardian) while skating dangerously close to an almost nauseating "country kitchen" appearance

On the other hand, if it is not the wainscotting you are refering to, then kindly cite the particular posting number and I'll do my level best to clarify.

Thanks again!

Peter

[Banjo]

I'm enjoying it immensely Peter, it's a multiple daily quick look in to check for updates!
I can't help but wonder what her final weight is,or will be.
Or is that a rude question to ask about such a stately lady?

If that's too personal then how about something like
"She's ship shape, taught & trim with her limber timbre so is just under the disgners estimates"
or else
"Ahem, She is pleasantly rounded and enhanced enough to be slightly over the designers estimate"

[P.L.Lenihan]

The last couple of photos showing the last of the horizontal trim pieces epoxied and clamped in place.




The putty knife is very well suited for removing epoxy squeeze out before the epoxy cures...........otherwise you are inviting a whole new level of maddness into your life by sanding the squeeze out off.Trust me on this on! Oh, and do not forget to wipe the putty clean of all uncured epoxy too...a quick dip in white vinegar, a rag and Bob's yer uncle!





The moment of truth and the end of my patience;the end pieces,after lots of fussy hand sanding of the miter cuts to get as close a fit as possible, or as I am fond of saying, a "perfect" seam.





More of the same with the little spring clamps helping to keep the corners"perfectly" in line.The drawer standing on top of the two others shows where the excess epoxy squeeze out was going....right into the holes recently vacated by the temporary screws originally used to stop the trim from sliding all over the place on the thickened epoxy.






And yet another shot of the end trim pieces waiting for the epoxy to cure. You grow accustomed to always having to come up with simple but effective methods of applying pressure to areas not easily clamped,especially when one is not heavily endowed with a fleet of clamps.It is good for your imagination, a reasonable challenge for most fools like moi and another benefit of poverty.A veritable triple whammy!


Peter

[P.L.Lenihan]

I'm enjoying it immensely Peter, it's a multiple daily quick look in to check for updates!
I can't help but wonder what her final weight is,or will be.
Or is that a rude question to ask about such a stately lady?

So it is YOU who has been running the "numbers of views" up! Glad to be of service and thank you for your interest Banjo!
Don't have the hard numbers with me( I'm at work) but it is roughly expected to come in at, or around, 7500 to 8000 lbs. empty with 1000lbs per inch immersion.
Speaking of work; I can only post while at work with access to a computer and I only work basically 7 on /7 off. So you(and others) will notice that the pictures will tend to arrive in several day bursts followed by an errie silence..........Never fear! Unless I am told to stop this silly post, pictures will continue to arrive,more or less regularly, until launch day and beyond

Cheers!

Peter

[Banjo]

So it is YOU who has been running the "numbers of views" up!

Guilty as charged!

Pounds smounds... means nothing to me ol mate.. Is that on the heavy side of the designers estimates or under it? :P
How far ya got to move her to get her bottom wet?

[P.L.Lenihan]

Another victim of my wood working attempts, put aside while the epoxy hardens in the screw holes.



The two smallish his and her sock-n-undie drawers in place and waiting for the final sanding and varnishing.Visible too is my ever faithful oil filled electric heater which allowed me to work un-interrupted through our sometimes arctic winters with nothing more then normal work clothes and ungloved hands.Spoiled rotten I am!


The rest of the drawers in place,except the linen drawer, viewed from aft and looking forward.


Looking the other way....linen drawer on berth just above.




And finally, the linen drawer after a quick lick of the sanding block.
Pictures taken from a safe distance so as not to reveal my less then "perfect" seams and just before my daily prayer session whereby a big helping of port is served and swallowed,quickly followed by me dropping to me knees,eyes tighly closed,while out from my port pickled lips there glides a simple,"Thank you Lord for epoxy!"

Well,another string of shifts is about to end for me soon, so I will say to everyone,this time through coffee covered lips,thanks for your wonderful comments and interest!

(More to come in the days ahead.)



Peter

[GregW]

I noticed a little while back some Benjamin Moore paint cans. I can't quite make out what it says on the label, what's in them an what do you use it for?

[P.L.Lenihan]

I noticed a little while back some Benjamin Moore paint cans. I can't quite make out what it says on the label, what's in them an what do you use it for?

Hi GregW,
The cans are Polyamid Epoxy Primer, an industrial product from BM to prime steel on oil rigs,towers etc..anything outside exposed to" harsh environments".It is very much like Interlux Barrier Coat and I use it to ......er.....a......prime my wood As it is also a high build primer and sands easily,it is great for light and final fairing.Sticks VERY well to epoxy coated surfaces


Peter

[outofthenorm]

Peter, as was said above, this fast forward through your build is a blast! You've probably qualified for your "Master of Clever Clamping" degree from McGill by now.
If it's not too rude to ask, what's the actual build time so far?

- Norm

[L.W. Baxter]

... cite the particular posting number and I'll do my level best to clarify...

Actually, I was talking about post number 4. I thought maybe you had made a mistake with the orientation of your panels. Not terribly common to see hull and cabinsides stood up all at once, you know. I purposely didn't research the design you're building so I can be surprised by what it looks like in the end. Curioser and curioser!

[Saltiguy]

Keep 'em coming Peter. Love it!

[P.L.Lenihan]

Peter, as was said above, this fast forward through your build is a blast! You've probably qualified for your "Master of Clever Clamping" degree from McGill by now.
If it's not too rude to ask, what's the actual build time so far?

- Norm

Hi Norm,
Sorry if this appears like a long wait ,but most of my postings are dependant on my work schedule;that is, I post only from work.....7 on,7 off...........

Not at all rude to ask,regarding the time into it so far.The first bits of wood for the strong back and bottom building jig were purchased on July 3,2002(my seventh birthday is just around the corner!) and work was begun on the same day.

The first two calender years,however, really amounted to about 5 months worth of full time steady work as I had yet to wizen up to the need for a bowshed shelter.Thus all work pretty much would come to a halt near the middle of October and would not resume much before the middle of April of the following year.Of course,during the summer months, there were also many days lost to rain.This went on for two years before it dawned on me that at this rate another ice age would have time to come and go before I would ever finish.

Thus the bowshed(seen earlier in this thread) and mixed feelings about it too. While it was and remains a treat to have, it also effectively removed all excuses for not attempting to go all hog with building details and getting things just right. A veritable sink hole as far as time is concerned.Organizing ones professional and personel life around this kind of project presents its' own set of challenges far removed from simple pleasures of building fun.

But it is do-able as long as one never loses sight of the intended goal!

A late summer launch it expected and if I do indeed make it in time, a hum-dinger of a blow-out booze fest will follow

Thanks for your patience and interest Norm!



Peter

[P.L.Lenihan]

Actually, I was talking about post number 4. I thought maybe you had made a mistake with the orientation of your panels. Not terribly common to see hull and cabinsides stood up all at once, you know. I purposely didn't research the design you're building so I can be surprised by what it looks like in the end. Curioser and curioser!

L.W.Baxter,

Ahhh, now I see what you were refering to. You are most correct in your observation regarding the unusual building methodology.Bolger sure isn't one to be stuck thinking"in the box" as it were

After having done it His way once, I would be sorely tempted on a second go around to build the hull proper,up side down on a building jig,right it,then proceed normally with mounting the cabin super-structure. Those whole hull/cabin sides were something of a hand full for a solo worker and kept me up many a night wondering how the hell will I ever get the two sides,bulkheads and bottom all perfectly aligned and epoxied together in one go. In the end, it took one friend and myself an entire day to do it with only a 30 minute lunch break. A box of screws,a gallon and a half of epoxy and some mild cursing did the rest

I hope I can maintain your "curioser and curioser" state for a while yet!

Thanks!

Peter

[P.L.Lenihan]

Guilty as charged!

Pounds smounds... means nothing to me ol mate.. Is that on the heavy side of the designers estimates or under it? :P
How far ya got to move her to get her bottom wet?

Banjo!
Sorry mate for the delay...I almost missed your question!
I checked the plans and the designer says the boat will weigh 7000lbs "light" with 10" draft and 8000lbs."fully stocked" at 11" draft. He also states the boat does not have to be built with expensive light-weight materials as she can take the weight of more common building stock. I expect to weigh in at about 7500lbs......... BUT with 1000lbs per inch immersion, I will still be able to stock up with gallons worth of beer-n-goodies!

I am about 100 feet away from the waters edge,launching will not be a problem at the boat yard.

Thanks for your patience Banjo and cheers!

Peter

[P.L.Lenihan]

Back to pictures and my feeble attempts at joinery, or as we call it around the bowshed,Peters' Persistent Puttering.




With the two closets/hanging lockers framed, a pattern was made of the actual opening as I just knew in my heart of hearts the darned thing just wasn't perfect,in a rectangular sort of way.



A simple piece of 1/8"th door skin was used as pattern stock.......




and a simple method of holding the door skin snuggly up against the frame was devised since not a single one of my beer guzzelling buddies happened to be hanging around just then to stand in the closet to hold the piece for a couple of seconds.......the buggers!


A few of the dresser drawers under the berth all in place and the remains of Medussas head sprawled on the floor.




The port side his-n-her socks-n-undies dressers.All pictures taken from a discreet distance to allow the viewer to exclaim,"Wow! Peter sure does tight miter joints!"


Peter

[P.L.Lenihan]

With my"perfect" patterns of the "un-perfect" closet openings made, the doors were cut out of 1/2" MDO and their edges"perfectly" capped with some mahogany bits daddoed to a"perfect" fit..........HA!.....Ya Right! This here is the top of the narrower starboard locker door.......



and the bottom of same with clamps to hold the works while the epoxy sets.



This here is the port locker door,again waiting for the epoxy to set




bottom half of same,laying on the berth/work bench. Nothing better then working in near "perfect" conditions... I am one lucky guy!




With the sides now set for life in cured epoxy, some creative juggling of clamps to force and hold the end pieces in place.The corners were done with "perfect" miter joints as the radius would have been way too tight to get out nice corner moldings as seen on the door openings.


Peter

[P.L.Lenihan]

Ya know, there are times when you just cannot get enough views of clamping bits of wood,in epoxy,under less than perfect conditions.This crazy collection of multiple views ought to inspire just about anybody to go wild with clamps,few as they may be, and to have some fun!

The scary part with this last picture is,if you peek down into the lower right hand corner, you can just make out a part of a completed miter joint......not perfect,I know, but I'm banking on a really long sanding session and multiple coats of varnish to razzel and dazzel those who come aboard. Big,cold and full beer steins thrust into their hands might also go a long way in creating the illusion of "perfect" joints. I remain hopeful!!


Peter

[P.L.Lenihan]

With work on the doors pretty much done except for finish and hardware,smallish pieces of mahogany(1" X 1/4") are epoxied to the inner face of the door frame and allowed to stand proud by 1/4".They may have a proper name,one which I do not know, but they serve as a back stop for the doors to prevent them from swinging inward beyond the actual door frame.They also give the door frame a more finished look.....for whatever that may be worth



The port locker with clamps at work.


8" C-clamps are over kill for such light work but I am short on the more suitable spring hand clamps,several of which can be seen here on the forward end of the door frame.




With the vertical moldings in,the upper and lower bits are clamped in place.





Believe it or not, these virtually invisible inner door moldings are joined with "perfect" 45 degree miters......I still don't know what the hell I was thinking at the time other then perhaps a real need to get these little bastids finally and truly perfect.On the other hand, maybe I'm just slowly going nuts and just don't know it yet!


Peter

[P.L.Lenihan]

Moving along,smartly and fleet of foot like, the starboard door;



The top piece of inner door molding epoxied and clamped....



The two vertical pieces of inner door moldings epoxied and clamped........



Top view of same,not the best lighting,sorry........



and finally, the lower piece of the inner door molding epoxied and clamped in place.The boxed shaped intrusion seen going through the locker base is the battery box for the aft bank and serves as the first step up and out to the companionway,but you already knew that part,right?

Out of curiosity, is this still interesting fun for you viewers or is it too slow with needless detail? I know it does appear a bit tedious for me as I try to look at it all objectively but any way you slice it, assembling a boat does have many of these kind of drag-on-all-day-and-into-next-week steps and the light at the end of the tunnel does appear to flicker and dim at times. While building your own boat, kindly ignore that blasted light and keep working away as best you can.The rewards,in the end, will be manifold!


Peter

[P.L.Lenihan]

The port locker waiting for hardware...actually just a trial fit for my own sense of accomplishment.



Another view looking at the lower half......




Taken while standing on the master berth attempting to get a picture of the whole door,it just fit!




A quick peek inside the hanging locker which awaits the WRC lining to cover and protect the foam insulation.The inside face of the door will also recieve a full length mirror for the Admiral and her special needs


And a single shot of the starboard hanging locker door.All that needs to be done now is await the hardware for the doors and for that magical moment when one feels the strong urge to get into hours and hours of fussy detail hand sanding.....let's call it a zen moment.

Those of you blessed with eagle eyes may also sit and stare in silence(please!) the ONLY miter cut I completely blew.It is right there,the top left hand corner of the door.See what appears like two pencil lines? I managed to cut the last piece of daddoed mahogany door trim 1/4" too short! It is also another fine example of why I fall to my knees regularly to give thanks to the providers/inventors of epoxy resins!

Have to go and scan more pictures now. Hope it's still fun to watch!


Peter

[David G]

Peter,

It really is fun to see this set of tasks get knocked down like ducks at a shooting gallery. Your joinery looks plenty fine to me - but since you're feeling fussy and critical, just think about how much better it'll be (after all this practice) on your next, bigger, boat. And the one after that will probably be a museum piece <G> Or, you can take the attitude I do when trying something new (see quote, below). I'm sure it's gratifying to look back on the creativity you've been able to muster in order to fix the various goofs. And educational to reflect on how you'd approach it differently in the future.


"Try as hard as we may for perfection, the net result of our labors is an amazing variety of imperfectness. We are surprised at our own versatility in being able to fail in so many different ways" -- Samual McChord Crothers

[MiddleAgesMan]

I agree with the others--you're doing great and the fast sequences help keep things interesting.

A suggestion re: miter joints--it's usually best to avoid them on boats as the wood will swell and shrink with changes in humidity. When the wood swells miter joints tend to open up around the outside. When over-dry (not likely to happen on a boat in the water) they tend to open on the inside.

If your heart is set on mitering your trim keep the pieces as small as possible as the opening-closing business gets worse as the width of the lumber increases.

[BillBerger]

Peter,

Not on your life am I getting tired of seeing your posts.

This series is very interesting and I'd like to see it continue.

Bill

[P.L.Lenihan]

Peter,

It really is fun to see this set of tasks get knocked down like ducks at a shooting gallery. Your joinery looks plenty fine to me - but since you're feeling fussy and critical, just think about how much better it'll be (after all this practice) on your next, bigger, boat. And the one after that will probably be a museum piece <G> Or, you can take the attitude I do when trying something new (see quote, below). I'm sure it's gratifying to look back on the creativity you've been able to muster in order to fix the various goofs. And educational to reflect on how you'd approach it differently in the future.


"Try as hard as we may for perfection, the net result of our labors is an amazing variety of imperfectness. We are surprised at our own versatility in being able to fail in so many different ways" -- Samual McChord Crothers

Hi David G.!
Thanks for the encouraging words however this will be the last boat I build of this size.As it stands now, it is the fourth and biggest I've built and since this is just a hobby for me....well.....I also like to use the darned things when they're finished.This one has kept me off the water way too long!Future boats will be considerably smaller and quicker to get me on the water.I'm getting a slow dose of smallboatitis and big helping of why smaller is better
I am most thankful my pictures,like most, are so very forgiving in regards to how much detail they actually reveal otherwise folks would be hollering out "Take up golf you fool!"


Peter

[P.L.Lenihan]

I agree with the others--you're doing great and the fast sequences help keep things interesting.

A suggestion re: miter joints--it's usually best to avoid them on boats as the wood will swell and shrink with changes in humidity. When the wood swells miter joints tend to open up around the outside. When over-dry (not likely to happen on a boat in the water) they tend to open on the inside.

If your heart is set on mitering your trim keep the pieces as small as possible as the opening-closing business gets worse as the width of the lumber increases.

Thanks for the encouragement MiddleAgesMan and for the suggestion regarding my"perfect" miter joints. I have only used them in a couple of places, with most of them small in size and all on the interior.Yours is good advice!

Not being trained in wood working but with lots of time spent oogling boat pictures(damn you Woodenboat Magazine! ) and the like,allows for all sorts of craziness to errupt from my overly optimistic mind.Hence my crazy attempts at joinery seen here. I know that epoxy is pretty much saving my sorry ass, at least for now, but it will be time that will ultimately put my amateur efforts to the real test. I hope I do not fail too miserably

In the end however, it is my relatively constant state of poverty which has provided the most important impetus toward my hubris in joinery.My life would be rather dull and predictable were I awash in ready cash......afterall,how difficult can it be for one so awash to write a cheque? Give me the paupers' life!!


Peter

[P.L.Lenihan]

Peter,

Not on your life am I getting tired of seeing your posts.

This series is very interesting and I'd like to see it continue.

Bill

BillBerger,
A sincere thank you.I hope to continue deserving your interest! Thanks!!


Peter

[P.L.Lenihan]

The fun continues



The master berth getting fitted with a...ah....er.....bunkboard?Not really sure what the word is but it is that piece of wood used to keep the mattress from sliding off the bed,especially during periods of great activity.......you know.....from the waves folks,from the waves!
This is viewed looking aft toward the foot of the bed,angled such to allow unfettered entry or exit via the companionway.


The forward end or head of the berth.The bunkboard..bundling board?...is out of mahogany and fastened through the 1/2" ply berth face and into 1" X 2" mahogany framing stock.


Low angle view just so I could get a "feel" for the look of the bunkboard/bundling board/whatchyamacallit and the drawer trim pieces. A view I may become rather familiar with,once she is launched, as I crawl my way back into the stateroom after a particularly well hydrated meal..............




Different lighting,similar view.....I like it!

Just as a quick note; there are certain aspects of this particular build which are NOT exactly as per the designers plans.This double berth happens to be one of them.The plans instead call for two single berths with a centerline passageway leading fore-n-aft.Based solely on hearing out the various grievances and lamentations from past girlfriends on my past boats equiped with nasty single berths, I have opted to buy peace and refuge from such tear jerking laments and gone with a double.No more quabbles in the bedroom! Aye Sir!


Peter

[P.L.Lenihan]

A few more to finish up the bunkboard/bundling board/whatchyamacallit/mystery board;


Dry fitted with berth top panels slid back in place.Should be up to the job when the going gets rough


Yet another "perfect" seam.Once this piece is permanently installed with some epoxy the seam will look even better



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Peter

[P.L.Lenihan]

Alrighty then, onto another project-within-a-project:

Cupboard doors and further proof of the type of craziness which can often be encouraged by spending too much time looking at pretty boat pictures and super detailed, really perfect, works from Mr.Jim Ledger,Mr.Bob Smalser,Mr.Paul Girouard and the many other true craftsmen who so generously share their work here on the forum,thank you gentlemen!




El-cheapo super-accurate depth guage about to begin boring holes into some mahogany cupboard door stock.(it is just a stupid piece of painters tape wrapped around the bit)


and the results.The lines are perfectly straight and where they are supposed to be but them thar holes aren't perfectly centered!That's what happens when you do not own a drill press and attempt to free hand it with a 1/2" power drill and dusty glasses.


Wee dowel getting cut up into short bits with a hacksaw blade.
I know,pretty exciting stuff, but please try to control yourselves out there, fer the love of God!


Stiles,rails and dowel pins ready for the altar......at least that is what I think the various bits are called.

(Please.If anyone reading any of these various posts knows the correct nomenclature for parts whose names I guess at or just describe their purpose, kindly jump in with the correct terms and expand my limited vocabulary.Thanks!)


Peter

[P.L.Lenihan]

That special moment just before penetration when you hope everything lines up well and that the holes are deep enough.


Well O.K., they line up well enough indeed and I have taken the precaution of making the whole works just ever so slightly over-sized by a fat 1/16th. Thus I know that some pleasent sanding will make everything perfect once the epoxy sets.

I like the contrasting colours and the neat fit. I almost want to brag about it but know better then to let loose here


Found this nifty clamping strap in my fathers' garage designed apparently for this type of work.Lucky me! But I only found one,so work on the cupboard doors can proceed at the blistering rate of exactly one door per day.Hold on to your hats folks


Peter

PS, What is a "tag",why is one on this thread and who put it there?
Enquiring neurons want to know.Thanks.

[P.L.Lenihan]

Arrr! Just a wee bit of convincing and insurance that the whole thing lays perfectly(there's that word again!) flat while the epoxy cures.Plastic layed down to ensure against glueing the works to the berth flat and just before I scrapped off the epoxy squeeze out.Honest!



Assembled and some sanded cupboard doors leaning up against the bulkhead basking in the light.


Same group of revellers,different angle.



They don't look all that bad stacked like this and the joints look almost......perfect!


That's it for now gentle viewers.My night shift is almost over and I do have to WORK sometimes Until tomorrow!


Peter

[Duncan Gibbs]

PS, What is a "tag",why is one on this thread and who put it there?
Enquiring neurons want to know.Thanks.

Peter, it's a search assist item. This thread is tagged 'bolger' so any other thread that is tagged with 'bolger' will appear in the next window when you click on that tag. Here's the text from the FAQ:

What are tags?

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This will categorize this thread with all other threads that have matching tags, whether or not they have the word 'photography' in them.

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This cloud allows you to see which tags are the most popular - the larger the word, the more times it has been used on threads within the board. There is also another tag cloud on the advanced search page that shows you the tags that have been searched for (or clicked on) the most.

Nice job too Peter! It'll be great to see her launched. What's your estimate on when you'll be afloat?

[P.L.Lenihan]

Thanks for reply Duncan! I should learn to explore the forum page a bit more on this crazy computer to avoid asking questions already explained there.
Estimate on when we float, hopefully before the snow flies.


Peter

[P.L.Lenihan]

With the berth flat in the master stateroom being used so much for a work bench,guess who completely forgot to insulate that part of the hull bellow the berth? If you guessed it was my evil twin Skippy,please move to the front of the line to collect your prize




2 X 1 1/2" stock used to frame out the hull panel prior to foaming.This well is at the foot of the berth and will serve for seasonal storage.



Blue foam in place?(check!),screw holes filled with expanding foam?(check!),perimeter and all other gaps foamed?(check!)


This is the forward under berth compartment and will house the gas tank(yikes!).This compartment is isolated from everthing else and a nice big gasket is going under the berth flat panel and screwed down firmly.The three holes visible in the lower outboard corner of the bulkhead are for three conduits(2 1/2" OD ABS) which will carry steering control cables, engine control cables and electrical wiring from the aft battery bank. These conduits hopefully will make any future servicing/changing of these various cables/controls elements childs play,especially as I intend to keep fish lines permanently installed for each conduit.



So,while the foaming foolishness was getting done, so too were those cupboard doors. Seen here are the doors which go under the galley counter top.The inner panels are 1/4" oak veneer set into a 1/4" rabbet.Oak looks almost like beaver vomit when varnished( at least to this astute observer of sick beavers) so these panels will all be painted white with the frames varnished .


Peter

[Banjo]

"The master berth getting fitted with a...ah....er.....bunkboard?Not really sure what the word is but it is that piece of wood used to keep the mattress from sliding off the bed"

I would call em "Plinths" myself, but that might not be the right terminology either.

"especially during periods of great activity"

Woah!! too much information there! ::: snigger snigger :::

[P.L.Lenihan]

A view of the back side of the bellow galley counter doors.You know you're living high off the hog when you can use mahogany bits for clamping pads But seriously, they were used to ensure the full length of the panels sat well into the rabbets.


And another view.I thought I was being cunning by applying plastic tape to the contact surfaces of the clamping pads to prevent epoxying the lot together.However, I used the WRONG type of tape! This stuff not only stuck to the clamping pads like flies to you-know-what, but when I finally peeled it off, the red dye used in the tape had, some how, bled into the wood.Weirdest darned stuff I've ever seen!


The four cupboard doors resting atop the forward ice-box waiting for final sanding and varnish.Frosted glass will be used to close off the openings.


Rather neat rabbets.Amazing what a determined individual can actually accomplish with a very very sharp Swiss army knife,no?

Well, no right ! These nifty rabbets were done using a borrowed router. First time I ever used one and boys those machines are scary! I have new found respect for those craftsmen who use them regularly and produce neat,crisp work.My heart still races a wee bit just recalling that exciting router day!


Peter

[P.L.Lenihan]

Hi Banjo,
Well your word almost held great promise for me until I looked it up.

Main Entry: plinth Pronunciation: \ˈplin(t)th\ Function: noun Etymology: Latin plinthus, from Greek plinthos Date: 1601 1 a: the lowest member of a base : subbase b: a block upon which the moldings of an architrave or trim are stopped at the bottom2: a usually square block serving as a base; broadly : any of various bases or lower parts3: a course of stones forming a continuous foundation or base course


I hope that whatever activity takes place in the master stateroom will NOT require "a course of stones forming a continuous foundation...." hmmmm,upon further reflection, it may hold great promise for some rather exciting hijinks

Hopefully some of the more knowledgable here will come to our rescue with the proper terminology one day.

Plinths.....it does have a nice old timey sound to it .....shame really!

Thanks for the effort Banjo and have a good one!!


Peter

[Duncan Gibbs]

Hehe! I seem to be getting good at this on your thread Peter!

Here's my source arrrggh! For the salty amongst us!!

Term: bunk board (n)
Definition: A rail or partition that can be installed at the edge of a berth to help keep a seaman from rolling out of bed when the seas are high.
See Also: fiddle

[Jim Ledger]

Are you going to have that frosted glass tempered, Peter?

[P.L.Lenihan]

Hehe! I seem to be getting good at this on your thread Peter!

Here's my source arrrggh! For the salty amongst us!!

Term: bunk board (n)
Definition: A rail or partition that can be installed at the edge of a berth to help keep a seaman from rolling out of bed when the seas are high.
See Also: fiddle

Duncan Gibbs, keep it up and I'll hire you as my official translator,word finder and all around crazy guy from the other side of the planet

The bunk board sounds good but the piece I made is just to hold the mattress in place.....the crew will have to grab and hold onto what fixed hard object is handy....should the seas become high

Now FIDDLE, that there sounds most appropriate, like the fiddles on galley counter tops and tables;used to keep things from sliding off, just like the fiddle to keep the mattress on the berth flat! Thanks for the help.....it most likely will not be the last time you come to my rescue

Cheers!


Peter

[P.L.Lenihan]

Are you going to have that frosted glass tempered, Peter?

Good day Sir!

After looking through the dictionary,recently, looking up other words, it occured to me that "frosted glass" is not exactly what I will be doing to the glass. Instead, each of the four panes will be etched with the profile of each of the last four boats I have built.

Your mention of tempered glass is timely however; would simple plate glass perhaps be un-safe in this application? Would tempered or laminated glass be a wiser choice?

I'll have to go to the glass shop and enquire what they recommend unless anyone here knows what works best for this interior applicaton.

Continued success with your build Sir!


Peter

[P.L.Lenihan]

And so the fun continues as various bits are cut,shaped and cut again for final fitting.The following is a sequence of the trim moldings used to cap and define the transition between the wainscotting and the upper paneling.Port side of the master stateroom,looking aft.




The trim molding standing up after coming in from a nice sanding session outside.



After a few tries, the piece finally looks like it will fit snuggly.There is just the slightest compound curve to this fit so some pushing and shoving takes place with the molding.



Satisfied with my dry fit, counter bored holes are made, screws are driven and we're in business!



Hmmmm, not very clear this shot.......



This one is better and shows one of the screw hole bungs in place with the grain oriented to the mother piece,just like they tells ya to do in all the good books Carpenters glue was used instead of epoxy...just in case I have to ever take the bugger off.The wood is Brazilian mahogany.


Peter

[Duncan Gibbs]

This one is better and shows one of the screw hole bungs in place with the grain oriented to the mother piece,just like they tells ya to do in all the good books Carpenters glue was used instead of epoxy...just in case I have to ever take the bugger off.

Tip from a very experienced ****wright mate of mine down in Sydney with external bungs that may be immersed or at least see weather: Align the grain 90 degrees to the grain of the mother piece and affix using shellac. The reason for the opposite alignment in these exposed areas is differential swelling: He has learned from bitter experience having seen perfectly good planks and rails be cleaved in half by innocent little bungs.

[P.L.Lenihan]

Ah yes,the old two schools of thought conundrum.Would a bung of the same species of wood as the mother piece still provide for differential swelling? With wood destined for outdoor exposure, with all parts saturated with epoxy, will significant and sufficiant levels of moisture ever penetrate the wood enough to cause rupture.Isabelle necessary on a bicycle? Does it matter whether it is salt water or fresh?

Clearly our work is not yet done here Duncan Gibbs.Thus your task,if you so decide to accept it, is to further ponder with all gravitas the profound nature of these questions and report back when done. May I recommend a healthy supply of cold beer,chilled glasses,shaded vistas and sand between your toes I'll work on it from the other side of the planet with a steady supply of cold ones but,sadly,without shaded vistas nor sand between my toes......would saw dust count, I wonder,in lieu of sand? Gads,another ponderable question I say!

Cheers!

Peter

[Duncan Gibbs]

Unfortunately we've had the cast offs of the weather system that stymied Mr Bertenshaw's double handed race today over the ditch in NZ. So we'll have to wait for that toes + sand equation to be calculated on a warmer day. While the weather remains inclement the beer shall make way for a vodka tonic or two!

Carry on Mr Lenihan! Carry on...