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    If I may ask...
    What is it you didn't like about them Jim?

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    Quote Originally Posted by willin woodworks View Post
    Moral slippage feels a little extreme....maybe temporary lapse of judgement, or a simple case "we'll see"...
    Agreed. Moral slippage was the time I packed thickened epoxy into a fractured rub rail and applied brute force via clamps and a wax paper covered block. I subsequently gifted that boat to a liveaboard friend. It's probably still holding...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geftb View Post
    If I may ask...
    What is it you didn't like about them Jim?
    Geftb, it may be as simple as our quote from American football "upon further review . . . ." - Jim built them, and they seemed OK, but " upon further review . , " he feels a need to change / improve them..


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    The problem with the knees, you ask? None at all, really, just as planned. They could have been made a bit thicker, there is that. Once I had scribed them down to the deck there was precious little wood left on the top side to play around with. And I cut one a bit too close and that took the wind completely out of my sail. Nothing a slather of epoxy wouldn't have set right if I'd have a mind to.

    Don't you worry about them knees, they'll soon be put right.



    Here's the half oval brass strip being fitted up against the stem...gonna look a treat, this!



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    Bristling with chafing gear - Perfect...

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    Magnificent.

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    no flies on that stem band.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amish rob View Post
    Those plugs are just begging to be transformed into doodles.

    "Oh, no, Mr. Bill!"

    Peace,
    Seeing Things

    Sometimes when you make a mold there's two vents that just happen to triangulate with the pouring sprue and you get something like this...



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    Oh! No!!!

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    Jim,
    No idea what it was supposed to look like but it seems to be a golem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amish rob View Post
    Well, Id never use a drywall screw as a fastener, no. Just to pull the wood together, sorta like a clamp.

    Peace,
    This Is Just TOO Easy
    I'd be cautious of using them as a "sorta clamp" - those heads break off.

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    They are if you drill (slightly) oversize the side of the work with the head...

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    Quote Originally Posted by amish rob View Post
    I had hoped the humor was obvious, but the idea of using a screw to pull wood together as a clamp is so much more horrible than using a drywall screw as a fastener, even a temporary one. To me.

    Screws aren't clamps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amish rob View Post
    Not me. I may use a bolt and nut, with washers, as a clamp, but not a headed, threaded screw in wood. Too many strips and splits and head wrenches and etc.

    And NEVER a countersunk head as a clamp. Wedge much?

    Peace,
    Robert
    I have needed to use screws to clamp a scarf when the original tacks had let go. As it was at the turn of the bilge the only way to do it was to make two cauls, one for the inside and one for the outside and screw them together through two of the existing nail holes. When the glue had set up the cauls could be dismantled and the two holes plugged. Machine screws or bolts with nuts and washers would have been too large a diameter leaving too large a hole to be plugged.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amish rob View Post
    Not me. I may use a bolt and nut, with washers, as a clamp, but not a headed, threaded screw in wood. Too many strips and splits and head wrenches and etc.

    And NEVER a countersunk head as a clamp. Wedge much?

    Peace,
    Robert
    My specialty is square plywood washers

    I have done up an entire glued lap plank like that. It has an interesting look if you clock the washers.

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    Huh, we regularly use lags with pads to pull planks into position, of course you need a clear hole but it works great. I'd assume the same process could be used with deck screws,and I know it works with glued lap, using wood screws as temporary fasteners. Granted, this is now a fair amount of thread drift. Also, thank you Jim, for not only this thread, but also the library of information you have shared.

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    It takes a long day to install one rubrail working alone, due in a large part to the care needed not to smear goop any further north than the second knuckle of the fingers of both hands.


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    Well the owner of the boat seems to have a lot of patience with your progress. This methods allows you to check it's fairness and make adjustments which is nice.

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    Holy Moly! The use of maniacal advantage on that chain whip is genius, as is par on this course.

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    Looking great, Jim !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Husky View Post
    maniacal advantage on that chain whip is genius, as is par on this course.

    That's how you keep a crew in line. No mutinies with a maniacal chain whip.
    There's the plan, then there's what actually happens.

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