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    Hello,

    below are the German names for common sailing ship types from the Middle Ages until after 1800. But how are they called in English (I have already tried to translate some of them)?

    * Galeere = galley
    * Wikingerschiff = Viking ship
    * Knorre = knorr
    * Nef = ?
    * Kiel = ?
    * Normann. Schiff = Norman ship
    * Kogge = cog
    * Holk = ?
    * Karweel = ?
    * Fleute = fluyt
    * Pinasse = pinnace
    * Barze = ?
    * Nao = nau?
    * Karavelle = caravel
    * Karacke = carrack
    * Galeone = galleon
    * Liniensch. = Ship of the line
    * Fregatte = frigate
    * Korvette = corvette

    Thx
    Longshore Lubber

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    Default Re: How are these sailing ship types called in English?

    A Holk was also known as a Cog which was a beamy cargo transport ship that replaced the Viking Long Ships.w
    A "Holk" is also the German word for Hulk.
    A "Barze in German is a barge
    So far as the others, I am not familiar with the names.
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    Default Re: How are these sailing ship types called in English?

    Nao is the Portuguese word for Carrick,

    Nef is an old French word for ship, but appears to have become a word for a ship shaped salt holder on the table.


    is it possible that you have a mix of more than one language in your list?
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    Default Re: How are these sailing ship types called in English?

    Assume Kiel = Keel in England. Here's an example
    http://www.goole-on-the-web.org.uk/main.php?key=668

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    Default Re: How are these sailing ship types called in English?

    If I recall correctly Fluyt, or fluit, isn't English, it's Dutch. The correct English spelling is just "flute," confusing as that may seem. A contemporary alternative name for the same thing that doesn't seem to be used much anymore is Fly-boat--a corruption of Vlie-boot (so called because the fluyt was invented by a shipbuilder on the banks of the river Vlie).

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    Default Re: How are these sailing ship types called in English?

    Few if any of these names are hard and fast, as language is fuzzy enough when used by small groups, but when translated it becomes quite vague.

    So you may find a consensus on what the type of ship generally is, but won't get any sort of exact description unless it was determined in the past by some nation's naval service.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluyt

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nef -
    Nef - a French name for a type of ship called a Carrack in English

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nao -
    Nao - A Carrack (a three- or four-masted sailing ship developed in the Mediterranean in the 15th century) in Spanish
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    For better classification, you can find a timeline of the ships here:

    Hauptzeiten der Schiffstypen II.doc: http://www.webfilehost.com/?mode=viewupload&id=6774855

    Waiting for the download takes 60 seconds (I hope it works).

    The material is btw meant for this ship .

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