Devlin Material Lists

[jbo_c]

Where can you find materials lists for Devlin designs? I found plans and even have one of his books, but the books don't have materials lists.

Specifically, I'm curious about the requirements for Nancy's China.

While I'm at it, I can't find a materials list for Stambaugh's Redwing either.

Thanks.

Jbo

[SawmillBrook]

I built a Devlin designed Snow Goose. I recall getting a materials list from Devlin when I ordered the plans... with that said, there wasn't a whole lot of instructions that came with the plans. I was a first time builder and totally inexperienced. I joined a forum and the forum members helped me along thank God - I would have been at a loss.

Suggest you find a forum and specifically folks who built the model you are building. There are tons of tricks and improvements made by builders not reflected in the plans.

Good luck and have fun.

[dirtsailor]

I have a Nancy's China hull, might not ever get finished as I found another boat that at this time that better fits my needs. If the hull doesn't find a new home, I'll get around to finishing her, one of these days. The b.o.m. will vary depending on whether you are going to finish it out with the cuddy or as the day sailor version. Another factor is how fancy you want/need the cockpit and cabin area to be.



I have plans, but they did not come with a b.o.m. The best way to get a b.o.m. is to loft the boat and panels. I think there is 8-10 sheets +/- in the hull, gonna need several more to finish out the cuddy, misc. assorted solid wood parts and pieces, lots of hardware and rigging oh yeah the mast and sails. As you can see I build rather than worry about the b.o.m. before hand. Maybe drop a note to Joel at Devlin, sometimes getting the information straight from the horses mouth is best.

[jbo_c]

Thanks. I was hoping to have an idea about the BOM before I buy the plans. I've built one S&G canoe and usually frequent the Bateau website where they include the BOM on the study plans. I'm looking for a pocket motor/camping cruiser.

Mostly I came over here to find some stuff about Stambaugh's Redwing. I think Jacques over there is working on a similar plan, but it isn't high on his priority list. Love that design and want to build something along those lines.

Jbo

PS I realize Nancy's China isn't a motor cruiser, but it has nice lines and economy of space in the size. I'm thinking maybe I could adapt it slightly for a small outboard or electric. Devlin has a DC version.

[Spokaloo]

Jbo, you pounced on that Small Boat journal! Jacques will poke the redwing plans out by march I bet, but if you aren't feeling patient, CMD actually has the plans in a S&G variant already. The one in the article is S&G.

Dirtsailor, Im working on a friend of mine to buy your boat. He was oggling some photos of one, and I told him about yours. If you have and unrefusable offer, Ill pass it along.

Eric in Spokane

[Pierre LaRochelle]

Purchase study plans and you'll get the materials list.

Regards

[David G]

It's true that some designers publish a b.o.m. in their sales literature. Seems like most, though, do not. Several times, I have contacted the designers with just that question. They have been uniformly helpful. Sometimes the information has come in the form of a b.o.m. Sometimes it has come in the form of, "Well, it cost about $7,500 in materials to build the prototype in 2002", or something similar. You might contact Sam Devlin for an idea of the build costs & time.

Or... you could just buy the partly finished N.China from Dirtsailor. I know what he's asking for it, and it could only be described as "Dirt cheap". Even if you shipped it somewhere (it's already in a cradle), I suspect it'll be much less expensive than building from scratch, and you'll kick-start your completion schedule.

[dirtsailor]

I pulled my plans out this morning before the kids got up, I have both the DC version and cuddy version. No BOM, but there is a parts list. However the parts list just correlates to the numbered drawing, not actual amounts of lumber required.

Along the lines of the size, when I jumped into this project, it would have been great for me. Two boys, a couple of huskies (who have decided that they really don't like boating) later Nancy's China is going to be a bit cramped for the boat camping that we like to do. So if she ends up not leaving me, I will finish her out but may revert back to the DC version to use a day sailor. Of course the better half thinks it's one to many mistress' in my life.

[jbo_c]

Yes, I pounced quick. Thanks, again, for the tip. The pics and article were nice enough to convince my wife to read. After reading that she's mostly on board with the build (if I do it slow and don't substitute building for family time).

If Jacques posts a design by March, it will probably be good timing for me. I'll keep my fingers crossed. There's such great support from the designer and the group over there that if his version suits, I'd like to get it.

Jbo

[plyboat]

“Nancy’s China”
Materials List

Epoxy 10 gallons MAS resin and 5 gallons of MAS hardener
Go http://www.boatbuilder.org/epoxy.htm for more
Information on epoxy and fillers
Filler One 11 lb Box of filleting blend
Fiberglass Cloth & Tape 50 yards 4” wide 12oz biaxial tape
50 yards 6” wide 12oz biaxial tape
30 yards 6oz x 50” wide fiberglass cloth
Add another 10 yards if you want to add two layers of glass to the hull or 10 yards of Dynel which would be a better outside layer.

All Glass, Epoxy and fillers can be purchased at http://www.devlinboat.com/mascart/index.htm
These are the same products we use in the Devlin Boat shop, and I added the glassing schedule (shown below) I would use if I were to build one. I hope this makes this part of your supplies purchase easier. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions 360-790-0577
---Joel---

Glassing Schedule



All interior joints get a glass schedule of one layer 4” Biax (12oz), one layer 6” biax (12oz) and two layers 8” cloth (6oz). The entire exterior of the hull, all decks and roofs get sheathed with one layer of 6oz cloth with a 4” strip added to all joints.
I prefer to cut the 4” and 8” glass strips off of the rolls instead of using the pre-cut rolls, which have a stitched edge that can be troublesome. To cut the strips use a piece of ¼” scrap plywood the desired width (4” and 8”), lay it at the edge off the roll and cut with a razor blade. Use some clean plywood as your cutting surface. The easiest way to sheathe the hull is to glass from sheer to shear or centerline to sheer 50” at a time.



Hull, Bulkheads, Transom, cabin and cockpit sole, dagger board and trunk cabin sides and rudder (2) 4’ x 16’ 3/8” marine plywood
(6) 4’ x 8’ ½” marine plywood
Decks, cabin top and hatch, etc. (6) 4’x 8’ ¼” marine plywood
Clamp, sprit pole and keel shoe (20) 16’ 1” x 4” clear fir
Cabin beams, braces, cheekblocks, tiller, seats (4) 12’ 1” x 8” Honduras mahogany
Mast (1) 18’ 4” x 4” clear fir or spruce
Boom (1) 10’ 2” x 3” clear fir or spruce
Ballast 230 lbs. of lead shot or iron punchings.
1 bag or 80 lbs. of portland cement.
30 lbs. ballast to daggerboard balance distributed evenly in (2) floor bins just forward of dagger board trunk.

[jbo_c]

Thanks, Joel. I appreciate the time you spent posting that.

Jbo

[Pierce Nichols]

Thanks. I was hoping to have an idea about the BOM before I buy the plans. I've built one S&G canoe and usually frequent the Bateau website where they include the BOM on the study plans.

That's one of the things I really like about the Bateau setup. Having a good idea of what the total cost is going to be before having to spend any money appeals to me.